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Anphetamin's

A good friend of mine has got hold of some Anphetamin's and has asked me to try them out with him.

I have taken most other kinds of illegal drugs, and am well experianced in self control and awareness whilst under influence of chemicals.

All I really want to know is what side effects can I expect and are there any major things that I should know before takeing this, as I am unsure I want to try it.

All I do know is that it should be taken with "Speed" and that afterwards you get severe muscular ache.

Any help on this would be of great use.

Tnx
-Matt-
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My advice to you is to forget it. You can possibly expect severe depression, depending on your personal chemistry.

And I wonder how bright you are. Haven't you noticed this is a site populated with people who want to get OFF drugs? We have no interest in helping you get ON.

Just say NO! It will apparently be the smartest thing you've ever done.

Francois
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I understand what you are saying, but this forum is also for "advice", Evedently in a perfect world I would say "no" but I am 20 years old, I like to experiment ! and as to my body's chemistry ...it is pretty used to takeing a beating every now and again.

I am not mocking anyone here, and all I simpily ask is for "Advice".

No doubt I'me going to try it anyway, and shamefully that is probably my own stupidity.

-Matt-
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many years ago i mesed around with amphetamines..biphetamines etc...i made a real mess of everything....there was a hwol post started by me re:this subject and I had many great responses but the thread mysteriously was deleted..anyway  yep  like francoise said leave it alone...and to semi quote skipper he basically said you can smell a speed freak....a mile away...it turns you into sub human,,,,JB said his hair fell out and his gums were bleeding......at one point I had a website for amphetamine sulfate...basically I aked what it was....I had been very depressed and wanted something once again to numb me...even the guy tht woned the site told me to seriously consider buying it which I never did,,he stated it was very powerful,,,i would have been trading one problem for another,,,good luck and fagetaboutit             Love to all    cind
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It might be a good time to build that entertainment center you were planning on.  Oh, and try to find a way to fill in all those hours you won't be able to sleep or eat or sit still for 5 seconds. And remember, even though you feel invincible, you're really not. And the best part comes last, when you crash...and you're all jangly and exhausted and depressed and you still can't sleep. There's a reason this isn't a real popular drug.
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Sorry, previous comment was to Duke..don't know where I got Matt.  This is your brain on drugs...
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Hmmm  I just read your post to francoise,,,Yes this forum is for advice but not to promote drug abuse...you are only 20 years old,,,,and you said your body has already taken beatings,,ok   how many more beatings are you willing to take...how much more are you really willing to do  to youself.?....so by the time you are 30 you wil be shot..you;ll end up maybe blowing out your heart,  maybe having a stroke as the speed causes our blood blood pressure to go up....you said you'll give it a try anyway,,which i have not doubt in my mind you will..I was 20 at one time....and if we had had computers in 1980 and I had come to this forum I may have had an attitude such as yours but I may have given it some serious thought....and maybe even had taken these people seriously..we are addicts...some of us are career addicts...read on ,,,read the archives, the other posts..you'll find that most of us suffer immensly...you have the chance to prevent this from happening to you....if there is a lack of respect from you because you are young and you think we are all alot older than you  so be it,  there is nothing that can be done about that.,but please have the respect for yourself   and choose the other path..and if you are still going to try it out of your won stupidity (your words, not mine) just remember we ill still be here when you come back for help..................love to all  cin
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amphetamines ARE speed. They're not taken WITH speed. If you want a pleasant high from the stuff without the jitters or paranoia, take the edge off with some good ole natural pot. Speed and pot combined produce one of the most euphoric experiences I know of. If your friend is your significant other, that same combination is an excellent all-night sex drug. Worth experiencing at least once.

That said, let me add something to my response. I try not to tell people what to take and what not to take unless I see dire consequences in their future. Speed, as an "experience" drug, is not going to cause lasting harm as long as you know the right dosage and don't take it in a public place which tends to cause paranoia.

But make no mistake about it: regular use of speed is a life destroyer. It will rob you of your job, your money, your friends, your family and, finally, your life.

I place speed up there with heroin and cocaine as drugs that NO person can handle.

Experiment once with it -- well, who isn't curious? I know I always am. But use speed chronically and you can flush your future down the toilet. Nuff said. Be careful.
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An Excellent responce from Everyone...I thank you all...

although I am only 20" I am always viewed by others as someone who is bright, charming, reliable and well knowledged in the use off illegal drugs. As well as someone who can be turned to for advice.

back in my school days (not long ago really) I took a lot more drugs than I do now. These days I only participate in such rituals as a "weekend" thing. I have also started writing arcticles for "High Times" magazine on my Real life experiances with drug use, although yet they have not been published.
(fingers crossed - they have been impressed so far)

I have only just joined this forum, and it seems I have a lot to learn on "politics" and "politeness" but I am glad to see that not everyone is nieve enough to give a bad and negative responce.

You say it is simular to Speed, which I know is a terribly cheap and nasty drug, that seldom do I dare to indulge.
Over this summer I took much Speed and Base, only to find it had more negative than positive effects.
from what responce you have all given me here, I think my best bet is "Not" to try it, although no doubt my friend
(oh and  yehhh he is my friend not a partner)
will convince me to give it a go!

Thankyou All

-Matt-


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All we aks is that you give it some serious thought....you will not find any judgemental people here...just people that have suffered at the hands of addiction..we don't need more dying as a result of the drug use....a 20 year old with everything in life ahead of him....Christ,,,I have an 18 year old brother and a 23 year old sister...they look to me for advice as I am 41 years old  and BTW  I am a nurse so I have seen it all from heroin overdose to suicide...a decapitation one time because the guy was on speed and thought he could do anything,,like hop a train,,,,,just think    love to all cin
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Thankyou for your Dramatic responce, you picture a grimm future for me.

I do not mean any disrespect, I apolagise for the words that I used in the original post.

I have no concern or "dis-respect" against age, be the person young, old, or inbetween...the only thing that maters is experiance in such a field.

I class myself as a Scientist, someone who is experimenting on the use of chemicals. I do spend much time reading up on, and researching into drug use, as well as the history of drugs.

After reading through this forum, I can see that there is a lot of hurt soul's here. People who have had more terror, and problems than what I can ever imagine. Perhaps if I can loose my "cockyness" I can give out a little advice from what I do know and have experianced.

I however have so far stuck to a few rules that were created beetween a small group of trusted friends.

the rules simpily are.

A: Only take drug's or be around with Close friends that you 100% trust.

B: Keep a straight mind, and stay focused.

C: Be prepared for problems,

D: Its only for fun !

With these simple rules, we have encounterd no problems.
I only hope things stay this way !

-Thankyou-
  -Matt-


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Sorry Pal, but the folks who hang out here are not the product of some sort of "cookie cutter" creation. We're all different and you should expect different approaches in response to any question that is posted here. If you can't stand the heat...

With people like you, many of us see in you ourselves years ago before we "experimented" and lost control - and everything else, and wish someone would have grabbed us by the ears and shaken very hard while telling the unvarnished truth. Thus some of us use the 2 X 4 against the head approach - you know, to get your attention. This approach certainly does not mean any of us are naive, or "nieve" as you would have it. (High Times might be more "interested" if you spelled accurately. Look at your post again with a critical eye and a dictionary.)

Anyway, when you post a question here expect all sorts of replies from all sorts of points of view. And mine is: don't be stupid. And keep in mind that whatever you do, it won't affect me one whit. What I say is for your benefit alone. If you don't like the tone, deal with it.

Francois
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Dually noted, I will bear that in mind.

and apolagies but I am slighty dislexic, and have never been good at spelling or grammer.

Generally my sister looks over any short stories that I write and corrects them for me.
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let's clear something up. If you're going to use this stuff, do your homework. "Speed" is slang for any "sympathomimetic amine of the amphetamine group." I'm quoting the Physician's Desk Reference. Amphetamine, Methamphetamine, dextroamphetamine, etc. all stimulate the adrenal glands and cause very large amounts of dopamine to be released in the brain. Call it what you like, but they're all variations on the same theme. And indiscriminate use of any of them leads to the same consequences. The danger of using speed is that, like coke, the first time you use it is so overwhelming that you use it over and over again in an attempt to recapture that first moment when the drug reached your brain. I'm not going to tell you to do it or not to do it, but at least go in with your eyes open.

Thomas
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You seem like you have a direction in life with your writing. This is an admirable goal. And worthy of your energy. Maybe the magazine would be willing to publish you if you expanded your horizons. They need something different and it's up to you to figure  it out. I'm sure drugs stories basicly run the same, more or less. Be creative and use your mind, don't fry it.
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Please do not think I have anything against you  and I believe you when you say it is not out of lack of respect,,itis a natural curiosity to try speed...that is how i got started which unfortunatly which led to other things Duke, when i was not using the speed i was on the couch and had no energy to even use a remote control...believe me hon,,,i am concerned for you as I am concerned for chad who is also very young,,,I did my drugs and duke,,it all started with speed...which eventually led to demerol, morphine, dilaudid etc...i gave up a good job a nurse,,had 12 felonies against me,, grnd jury indictment,,I am more concerned about the harm it does on your body. worry about you,,,,take care of you  then u can live TO YOU WIL BEthe rigt couseling and guidance....IF YOU NEED TOTALK REAXH ME AT CIN91860
@AOL.COM     KID ARE MY BUSINESS AND I HAVE SPENT MY TImdWITH THEM ve ause i care  they are out future,,plese think about it and know we are here for you  love to all   cin






















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Sorry   I dd it again  if  I post later at night i can't see the board when I am too tired....sorry for the typos...**** i can't see period, let alone at night....glauvoma and some nerve damage   have a great day....love to all   cin
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Hi all

Wow, a lot of catching up to do. I have been tied up the last couple days with an injury my 11 yr. old daughter sustained. She fell at school and has a serious concussion and busted her eye up terribly as that is where she landed. So I am just now reading the posts I missed.

I too have had several posts deleted. And I believe it was katie and cindi (hope that is right) who had them deleted also. It is very frustrating. Especially if you are responding to someone and then they never get the post and think you have ignored it.

FRANK LEE, I am sorry to hear about your dilemma. I know so many times I was going to "quit" but there was always a function or situation to stop me. It is difficult when there are stressful things in our lives. It just seems the "timing" is just never right to get clean. Do I sound like an addict? I wish you all the luck in the world. You have been so kind and generous with your posts to me. You have encouraged me and given me strength. As so many other on this forum have. You are such a knowledgeable strong person. You will find your way back. And as Thomas said the long-range goal being to go longer between relapses and gradually lessen the severity or duration of the relapse.


EVERYONE ....For me it was very hard because...unlike a lot of posts I read from others....I was never tired or out of energy from the vics. I never withdrew from friends or family or social events. I WAS COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE!  I wish I would have been like that so at least I could say "wow I have my life back" in that sense. But it was the "warm fuzzy feeling" that made me social and energetic and kept my house clean. THEY KEPT ME FOCUSED AND BALANCED AND I WAS PRODUCTIVE! It was the vics that made me want to go out and do things. At night in bed they did help me relax though. So for those of you that say "your house is unkept, you have lost contact with your friends, your lawn is 2 feet high, you have no energy etc".I ENVY YOU! I wish they made me feel that way. Then I could say without them how much better I feel. How nice it is to want to be social and contact friends. How I have the ambition to clean my house and do the laundry etc. I however, felt that way on the Vicoden. Without it I feel like most feel when they are in the "drug haze"  Poison has always been like honey to me.
I do take those measly 2 vics a day for pain and they are only 5mg. I compare them to a sugar suppository I guess.

KATIE...Your story about your surgery/weight was intense to say the least. I will sure be praying for you. What strength you have girl. And to say you feel you don't fit in...hell I think you are one of the pillars.

SHOTSY, WOW thank you for all the info "and I mean all as you have really educated me :)" When you do research you don't mess around. Thank you. I vote you president of "THE RESEARCH TEAM"

WW...You are like one beautiful lilac colored valium...Your
ability to put everyone at ease with your words. You remind me of "Mother Earth"  You seem to have a way to connect things together in Harmony.

THOMAS...this goes without saying but if you set up shop in Mexico ( jbear's dream) well..the population of Mexico will increase by...how many on this forum? A LOT
Also the site for rx.list is great. I have used it several times and it has been very informative.

CINDI...As usual your right on the ball with responding, especially to newcomers. your sensitivity and dedication makes everyone feel important and cared about.

KSTUEBIN....I found your post on borderline personality disorder of great interest. I know someone who matches the description to a "T" and although she has been diagnosed with it denies it and insists the professional are wrong.

FRANCOISE..Your posts as always are informative and to the point. I still am gaining knowledge from the site you directed me to.

PHILLYCHAD  I laughed so hard at your post about the dollar. I am always telling people "do you realize if everyone in this town gave me a dollar how well off I would be" and they look at me and think "what a ****** up addict I am." SO..we kind of think a like. Probably something neither of us should advertise. ..HA HA

JBEAR...No I was off trying to nurse my daughter back to health. I wish I was away somewhere fun. Thank you for thinking of me.

JENNYFLA....I hope you are well and your hubby's back will soon feel better. I know that you are both are battling demons. I pray you find strenght in others experiences.

MILO.... I agree as bad as the food poising is the Anthrax scare is unimaginable.

SKIPPER.. I hope your visit/car ride went well. I can relate I need to make a trip to Pittsburgh which is 3 1/2 hours away and I dread the car ride.

BETH...I have been meaning to comment about your picture. It is beautiful and I agree with the sunset in the background you look like an angel.

DUKE...dyslexia,,, Are you thinking maybe that speed might cure it? Good luck to you. Please stay with us and hopefully you can learn from the experiences of other here and not your own.  "THE WISE LEARN FROM THEIR EXPERIENCES, THE WISER LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS"..be the WISER Duke.

And to the rest of you....you are in my thoughts and prayers. With all the horror in the world you offer tranquility.

May you find peace. AND MAY JBEAR'S DREAM COME TRUE...THOMAS AS OUR DOC AND VICODEN POPSICLES. AAAHHHHHHHH

Shea **** I KNOW THIS IS LONG AND I AM SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Welcome back Shea..I'm sorry to hear about your daughter!

How is she doing now?

love,
WW
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Thank you for your well-wishes sweetie!
Good luck to you!
Lv Jenny
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All I can say is, if you think you have a 'handle on it' and are in 'complete control', you are fooling yourself.
Anytime you mess with any kind of drug, you are 'out of control', there is no 'in control' when messing with drugs.
They will creep up and take hold of you so sneakingly, you never see it coming!
Take it from one who always thought 'she was in control'!
A friend used to call me 'miss non-addictive' because i said 'i would never get addicted' HA!!!!!!!
Good luck, you're too young to mess up your life like this!
Jenny
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Sorry to break in on this thread, but I wanted to say hi to you folks!!!

Hi guys.....i just read your post asking how I was doing....That just made my day!!!  I'm doing GREAT!!!!!  Haven't taken a pill in such a long time, I cant even remember when it was!!!  I haven't even been drinking....WEIRD...what has come over me???  I have been really busy with the kids, work, and going to the gym....I've been busting my butt working out 5 days a week, 2 hours each day and the natural high feelings are incredible...and NO hangover....and its FREE!!!!  I have been going to a few NA meetings a week and its definately keeping me focused on NOT using....it reminds me the hell I was in and how wonderful it is on this side!!!   For anyone that is considering detoxing and wondering if they can do it....you CAN!!!  It IS possible if you want it bad enough!!!  You are the ONLY one that can make that decision for yourself!!!  No-one can tell you...

WW, how are you.....Jenny how are you sweets??  I haven't talked to you in such a long time!!!  

Have to run now....but I will be reading....love to all....and thanks for thinking of me....kristen
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I am so happy you posted kirsten, i've been thinking about you!
Wow, I am so proud of you, Good for You!!!!!!!
I like hearing these success stories, they are an inspiration for me!!!
You sound like one busy lady!!!  Bet your kids are enjoying the heck outta their new mommy!!!!
:)
Keep up the good work!
Lv ya, Jenny































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Kristen!! Sis! Woohoo!

It is so wonderful to hear the energy in your words, the spirit and the spark! I am thrilled to hear that you are doing so well, and I can totally relate to how good it feels to be on the other side.  I've just been told by my Doc that I can start using cardio equipment this week (used to use my nordic track an hour a day five days a week..but can't use it anymore...flexes the back too much)  So I joined a gym and today have my first orientation there.

Keep us posted please, when you have the time, and till then..I'm sending you love and light and sparkles.

love,
WW
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MATT, I KNOW YOU HAVE WRITTEN HERE BEFORE.  WHAT DID YOU ASK WHEN YOU CAME HERE BEFORE?  I AM STILL LOOKING IN ARCHIVES FOR YOUR POSTS BUT I REMEBER YOUR NAME (NAMES).  I HOPE YOU ARE TRULY ASKING FOR HELP AND IT ISINT SOMETHING ELSE.
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