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Barbiturate Addiction Help
There are quite a few of us who are struggling with this addiction and are looking for others who have dealt with this addiction and have some knowledge of it. Because of the chance of siezures during W/D it is a frightening thing for all of us and many have gotten different opinions from different doctors. At what amount and what length of time of abuse, would one have to worry about W/D being dangerous? Not all of us are able to go into detox, nor do we have access to an addictionologist.
The most common abuse being Fioricet/Fiorinal etc.
Anyone out there who has any ties with the medical community would be greatly appreciated by us with any info they may have.
Everyone of course we would love to hear from.
It is difficult to W/D from any drug but putting your life at risk makes it really frightening. To suffer for days and then have it pass with no harm to your health would be a relief...hard yes, but then the physical end over. I know Benzo's have this same risk.
Is the siezure risk exagerated? Is it just an excuse, unless of course you are taking 20-30 of them a day.
We (myself and others on the fioricet post) would appreciate hearing from you all.
Thank you and God Bless (there are a lot of great people on here)
Connie
The most common abuse being Fioricet/Fiorinal etc.
Anyone out there who has any ties with the medical community would be greatly appreciated by us with any info they may have.
Everyone of course we would love to hear from.
It is difficult to W/D from any drug but putting your life at risk makes it really frightening. To suffer for days and then have it pass with no harm to your health would be a relief...hard yes, but then the physical end over. I know Benzo's have this same risk.
Is the siezure risk exagerated? Is it just an excuse, unless of course you are taking 20-30 of them a day.
We (myself and others on the fioricet post) would appreciate hearing from you all.
Thank you and God Bless (there are a lot of great people on here)
Connie
Hi Connie,
I wish I knew the specific answers to your question. There used to be a poster here who knew a lot about how to recover from barbituates, so if those posts are still in the archives, you might find that information by doing an archive search.
Thomas, do you know much about this?
I want to give you support and help, but I know very little about how to safely withdraw from barbituates. I have read that with benzos, a slow and stable taper is best, decreasing the dose by a small cut each week. It might be the same for fiorinal, but hopefully someone else here might know.
love,
WW
I wish I knew the specific answers to your question. There used to be a poster here who knew a lot about how to recover from barbituates, so if those posts are still in the archives, you might find that information by doing an archive search.
Thomas, do you know much about this?
I want to give you support and help, but I know very little about how to safely withdraw from barbituates. I have read that with benzos, a slow and stable taper is best, decreasing the dose by a small cut each week. It might be the same for fiorinal, but hopefully someone else here might know.
love,
WW
hey people:
barbs??!! been there....very, very bad news...the worst part was
trying to explain those rug burns on your face...of course i really
hated myself but good back in in 1974....i thought if i kept my a-
buse irregular i wouldn't get addicted...then i lost a couple of
weeks to a vial of injectable pentabarb the size of a moonshiners
"little brown jug."
get a doctor in on this one...even if it means signing over your
freedom temporarily. i'm not kidding around here. if you don't kill
your self using this evil family of drugs, then w/d from it will
get you.
i've seen rare instances of people detoxing good friends using 1/4 grain (15 mg) tablets of pheno-barb, and taking the dose down real slow. i wouldn't suggest it outside of a hospital where the patient signed his/her owm commitment papers.
i went the hospital route and still wound up having real bad con- vulsions. after that i had an intresting malady nicknamed "word
salad" for the next 10 days. i could get every word i wanted to
say out, but not in the right order. the harder i would try the
more scrambled up it would become. but i did live through it and
not to much permanent brain damage at that! I COULD NOT HAVE DONE
THIS ON MY OWN...NOT EVEN WITH THE HELP OF FRIENDS1!
take from an old fart that's been there and get yourself commited
to a lock down detox ward on this one. you can hate me or anyone
else you want to while they detox you. when you come out the
"other side" you will have something to be truly thankfull for...
your sanity and soul!!
contrary to popular belief, barb w/d is much worse than benzo w/d
(and benzo's are real bad news). do yourself the first act of
self love in a long time and get a doc and hospital on this one!
keep posting and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
barbs??!! been there....very, very bad news...the worst part was
trying to explain those rug burns on your face...of course i really
hated myself but good back in in 1974....i thought if i kept my a-
buse irregular i wouldn't get addicted...then i lost a couple of
weeks to a vial of injectable pentabarb the size of a moonshiners
"little brown jug."
get a doctor in on this one...even if it means signing over your
freedom temporarily. i'm not kidding around here. if you don't kill
your self using this evil family of drugs, then w/d from it will
get you.
i've seen rare instances of people detoxing good friends using 1/4 grain (15 mg) tablets of pheno-barb, and taking the dose down real slow. i wouldn't suggest it outside of a hospital where the patient signed his/her owm commitment papers.
i went the hospital route and still wound up having real bad con- vulsions. after that i had an intresting malady nicknamed "word
salad" for the next 10 days. i could get every word i wanted to
say out, but not in the right order. the harder i would try the
more scrambled up it would become. but i did live through it and
not to much permanent brain damage at that! I COULD NOT HAVE DONE
THIS ON MY OWN...NOT EVEN WITH THE HELP OF FRIENDS1!
take from an old fart that's been there and get yourself commited
to a lock down detox ward on this one. you can hate me or anyone
else you want to while they detox you. when you come out the
"other side" you will have something to be truly thankfull for...
your sanity and soul!!
contrary to popular belief, barb w/d is much worse than benzo w/d
(and benzo's are real bad news). do yourself the first act of
self love in a long time and get a doc and hospital on this one!
keep posting and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Yow, Skip! That's quite a cautionary tale. I cop a Fiorinal scrip every so often, but never enough to get caught up in it. It sounds like you know the drill. The medical route sounds like the best advice anyone could give on this one.
Thomas
Thomas
Hi, Connie-
Skip is RIGHT on his call regarding Barbituates. When I checked myself into inpatient treatment (for alcoholism) the facility also treated those with Opiate, benzodiazapine, methamphetamine and related addictions and their associated withdrawals. Of ALL the people who were in treatment, and I saw just about any addiction you can imagine, it was those people who were coming down from barbituates that had the toughest time of it PHYSICALLY. Your situation DOES warrant inpatient care, and probably 24 hour monitoring for the first few days.
Listen... You are WORTH IT!
My treatment was NOT covered by my insurance, so I got stuck with an $18,000 bill that's going to take a long time to pay off. But, know what? I'm going to live to make those payments, and my family isn't going to be making funeral arrangements in the near future [as they most likely] would have if I'd continued on my chosen Alocoholic/Addict path.
That advice goes for ALL of you readers of this post who would go into treatment if it "Didn't cost so mucn."~~~~ Get with it, People- we ARE worth it! We are worth so much MORE than that bottle of Pills or that bottle of Booze!
Do the RIGHT thing.
~~~~JesseSarpy~~~~
Skip is RIGHT on his call regarding Barbituates. When I checked myself into inpatient treatment (for alcoholism) the facility also treated those with Opiate, benzodiazapine, methamphetamine and related addictions and their associated withdrawals. Of ALL the people who were in treatment, and I saw just about any addiction you can imagine, it was those people who were coming down from barbituates that had the toughest time of it PHYSICALLY. Your situation DOES warrant inpatient care, and probably 24 hour monitoring for the first few days.
Listen... You are WORTH IT!
My treatment was NOT covered by my insurance, so I got stuck with an $18,000 bill that's going to take a long time to pay off. But, know what? I'm going to live to make those payments, and my family isn't going to be making funeral arrangements in the near future [as they most likely] would have if I'd continued on my chosen Alocoholic/Addict path.
That advice goes for ALL of you readers of this post who would go into treatment if it "Didn't cost so mucn."~~~~ Get with it, People- we ARE worth it! We are worth so much MORE than that bottle of Pills or that bottle of Booze!
Do the RIGHT thing.
~~~~JesseSarpy~~~~
Jess,
I don't know what other drugs you were taking for your pain, but it is possible if you took more than just the Neurontin that they did not mix well, or it's just not for you. I took it for quite a while with no problems, but my doc did not want to mix it with other central nervous system affecting drugs such as the Klonopin, so I eventually went on that which is the best for temporal lobe seizures.
Take care, and ingore the jealouse ones. Some one obviously felt they were not getting enough attention and decided to harrass you. That happens on the streets too so just ignore the fools.
Chatahan
hey people:
people taking either neurontin or tyileptal should be aware of two
things:
1) you just might be a victum of "pop medicine"
i don't wish to argue the efectiveness of either drug...although
neither one has ever helped me or my pain, there may be something
to their theraputic value. i suspect that both are over-rated in
this aspect. both of these drugs are "big earners" for the pharm
co. that hold the rights to manufacture.
2)BOTH OF THESE DRUGS ARE VERE PSYCHO-ACTIVE!
my own mother is on high dose neurontin and can (and does) act like the town drunkard. as jessy pointed out these drugs are not any fun to take. i suspect the manufactures are having the time of their lives....just like the locals who are cooking speed are enjoying themselves....lets face it making money can be lots of fun! that aside, it isn't a "tickle your toes, jump up and scream for joy" feel good. maybe if either can relieve pain, or at least help wtih it there is some merit to them. until the smoke clears it can be difficult to tell the differenc between a a misplaced **** and one of those farts that hangs low to the ground! what i mean is until the maufacture's turn off the hype and turn on the
facts who is to know for sure?
for what it's worth
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
people taking either neurontin or tyileptal should be aware of two
things:
1) you just might be a victum of "pop medicine"
i don't wish to argue the efectiveness of either drug...although
neither one has ever helped me or my pain, there may be something
to their theraputic value. i suspect that both are over-rated in
this aspect. both of these drugs are "big earners" for the pharm
co. that hold the rights to manufacture.
2)BOTH OF THESE DRUGS ARE VERE PSYCHO-ACTIVE!
my own mother is on high dose neurontin and can (and does) act like the town drunkard. as jessy pointed out these drugs are not any fun to take. i suspect the manufactures are having the time of their lives....just like the locals who are cooking speed are enjoying themselves....lets face it making money can be lots of fun! that aside, it isn't a "tickle your toes, jump up and scream for joy" feel good. maybe if either can relieve pain, or at least help wtih it there is some merit to them. until the smoke clears it can be difficult to tell the differenc between a a misplaced **** and one of those farts that hangs low to the ground! what i mean is until the maufacture's turn off the hype and turn on the
facts who is to know for sure?
for what it's worth
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Good morning all:
Day 18 here - I think I've made as much progress as I'm going to make w/o getting back into regular exercise. I don't know why I'm always so reluctant to start, once I do I get addicted to the exercise and just feel like hell if I go just 3 or 4 days without. I wonder if I actually feel as bad right now as I feel during "exercise withdrawal"? I.e. is that feeling just a return to "normal," which seems awful in comparison to the glow-of-health-feeling of regular exercise or is it something else?
Listen not to the Sirenes . . .
CATU
Day 18 here - I think I've made as much progress as I'm going to make w/o getting back into regular exercise. I don't know why I'm always so reluctant to start, once I do I get addicted to the exercise and just feel like hell if I go just 3 or 4 days without. I wonder if I actually feel as bad right now as I feel during "exercise withdrawal"? I.e. is that feeling just a return to "normal," which seems awful in comparison to the glow-of-health-feeling of regular exercise or is it something else?
Listen not to the Sirenes . . .
CATU
Skip,
I was initially prescribed Neurontin for anxiety, seizures and insomnia. It also apparently has some anti-depressant, OCD, and attention deficit reduction qualities to it. Then they found it reduces deep nervous system pain in some people.
I felt pretty good on it, but it did not control the seizures or pain all that well. It is meant to be taken with other anti-seizure drugs for hard to control conditions. It made me sleep well though.
Later,I switched to Klonopin because it was more effective for anxiety and seizures. The only drawback with Klonopin is the high dose needed and the withdrawals are a killer if it comes to that. Neurontin has no withdrawals, so long as you taper it over a week or so to avoid seizures. That is typical of any anti-seizure med.
The other drug mentioned I never even heard of.
An old bottle of Neurontin is what saved my butt from the DT'S last February after a cut off from the Klonopin and Codiene. After almost one month I still did not fully come out of it until they put me back on the Klonopin however. Then I just tapered the Neurontin over three days. I still have a full bottle of 800 mg's of old Neurontin hanging around. I know it is not good to save old meds, but I do just in case of future DT'S. You never know what may happen when you are dependant on a drug and the doc moves or something. Then it's slash/n/crash as I like to call it.
Take care,
Chatahan
They are right - barb withdrawal is the worst. I went thru a 21 day in-patient detox (for Fiorinal.Fioricet/Esgic) ten years ago. Others in detox were there for street drugs and alcohol mostly. While most were off there "withdrawal meds" within a week, I was on Phenobarbital - decreasing doses everyday - until Day 21, when I checked out. They let me out and told me to take Tylenol for the migraines (not much help at all).
For me, it didn't work. Even with 21 days of being free of Fioricet, etc., I was having horrible cramps, couln't sleep, concentrate, or work. I was a mess. My PCP tried s few things, then put me back on limited qty's of Fioricet, which of course didn't stay limited for long.
Ten years later (up to 6 weeks ago) I was up to 18 - 20 Fioricets a day. Every day. I hit bottom, and started cutting back, drastically, on my own. Even reducing by a couple per day was pure hell for me.
I finally got a new PCP who immediately sent me to a great Neurologist - who specialized in Headaches and also Addiction to pain killers. She decided that in house detox was not for me, as I was a functioning addict. And, she feltr that in most cases, the docs in detox just do not understand how severe barb addiction really is, or how to treat it.
My doc put me on a tapering program. I am now down to 8 Fioricets a day, and going down to 7 this weekend. SHe also has me on Neurontin - it stop the seizures, most of the withdrawal symptons, helps you sleep, and also has been found to prevent headaches and other pain. I take 4 a day, and have had no bad side effects. I can work, play, and I feel fine. Just a little jumpy for a couple of days every time I step down one F-tab.
I also have Amerge (a triptan) for when I do getr migraines, and it really helps.
So, please get some help. Detox may work for you, or finding a good doc who will support you. But if you do it this way, you have to tell your family and friends. You have to be honest witrh your doctor(s) - and only get the stuff from one. Mine is checking with other docs and pharmacies to keep me honest - I had to okay this. On my Fioricet scrips, she writes "tapering slowly from Fioricet addiction".
Find a doc that you can trust, trust yourself, and you can do it. You will feel crappy for a week or so when you start, but much much better later.
Keep posting, and we'll give you support!
For me, it didn't work. Even with 21 days of being free of Fioricet, etc., I was having horrible cramps, couln't sleep, concentrate, or work. I was a mess. My PCP tried s few things, then put me back on limited qty's of Fioricet, which of course didn't stay limited for long.
Ten years later (up to 6 weeks ago) I was up to 18 - 20 Fioricets a day. Every day. I hit bottom, and started cutting back, drastically, on my own. Even reducing by a couple per day was pure hell for me.
I finally got a new PCP who immediately sent me to a great Neurologist - who specialized in Headaches and also Addiction to pain killers. She decided that in house detox was not for me, as I was a functioning addict. And, she feltr that in most cases, the docs in detox just do not understand how severe barb addiction really is, or how to treat it.
My doc put me on a tapering program. I am now down to 8 Fioricets a day, and going down to 7 this weekend. SHe also has me on Neurontin - it stop the seizures, most of the withdrawal symptons, helps you sleep, and also has been found to prevent headaches and other pain. I take 4 a day, and have had no bad side effects. I can work, play, and I feel fine. Just a little jumpy for a couple of days every time I step down one F-tab.
I also have Amerge (a triptan) for when I do getr migraines, and it really helps.
So, please get some help. Detox may work for you, or finding a good doc who will support you. But if you do it this way, you have to tell your family and friends. You have to be honest witrh your doctor(s) - and only get the stuff from one. Mine is checking with other docs and pharmacies to keep me honest - I had to okay this. On my Fioricet scrips, she writes "tapering slowly from Fioricet addiction".
Find a doc that you can trust, trust yourself, and you can do it. You will feel crappy for a week or so when you start, but much much better later.
Keep posting, and we'll give you support!
JR - When you were in the detox for 21 days how many pills were you taking daily at that point?
I'm just curious because when I did a 5 day inpatient back in 1994 they didn't give me any drugs for withdrawal. At that point I was taking 6-8 fioricets daily which is what I take now. I guess I am lucky that I haven't gone beyond that amount.
When I left the detox I had a horrible headache and anxiety for about a week before slowly starting to feel better. I have a very limited supply of fioricet right now which I am tapering with. The sooner I get to a knowledgable doctor the better off I will be.
I am at the point where she can call all my doctors and pharmacies. If that's the only way to stop this then it's definitely time.
Thanks again for the encouraging words and good luck to you
Golden Slipper
I'm just curious because when I did a 5 day inpatient back in 1994 they didn't give me any drugs for withdrawal. At that point I was taking 6-8 fioricets daily which is what I take now. I guess I am lucky that I haven't gone beyond that amount.
When I left the detox I had a horrible headache and anxiety for about a week before slowly starting to feel better. I have a very limited supply of fioricet right now which I am tapering with. The sooner I get to a knowledgable doctor the better off I will be.
I am at the point where she can call all my doctors and pharmacies. If that's the only way to stop this then it's definitely time.
Thanks again for the encouraging words and good luck to you
Golden Slipper
GS, at the time I went into detox, I was taking about 12 to 14 pills per day. I can't believe they didn't give you anything when you went in. You could have gone into seizures!
Lucky for you that didn't happen. When you do see the doc, be honest about how much you take. They see this all the time, and nothing will shock them, trust me!
jr
Lucky for you that didn't happen. When you do see the doc, be honest about how much you take. They see this all the time, and nothing will shock them, trust me!
jr
Catuf:
about the exercise thing....quit talking about and just do it. the
most difficult part about any regular form of exercise is just get-
ing started!
because i am an addict i've learned some things about myself. one
of these things i've learned about kip is that as long as he is
pissing and moaning, you know he isn't doing what he is supposed to
be doing!
for me (as well as you (if your an addict)) the most difficult
thing is starting to exercise. the second most difficult part of
exercising is knowing when to stop! it figures. only addicts can
take something good an really over do it.
get to it! have fun! don't over do it!
and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
about the exercise thing....quit talking about and just do it. the
most difficult part about any regular form of exercise is just get-
ing started!
because i am an addict i've learned some things about myself. one
of these things i've learned about kip is that as long as he is
pissing and moaning, you know he isn't doing what he is supposed to
be doing!
for me (as well as you (if your an addict)) the most difficult
thing is starting to exercise. the second most difficult part of
exercising is knowing when to stop! it figures. only addicts can
take something good an really over do it.
get to it! have fun! don't over do it!
and keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
I was prescribed neurontin for my pain and it made me feel *horrible*, so out it went. yech. It felt worse than elavil to me. Maybe I didn't give it enough time but it didn't affect my pain.
WW
WW
To all the Slippers and people on the barbituates.
I really feel for all of you. That is such a bumber that you have to go through so much to come off of this drug.
Like I told you guys before. That is what they gave me a couple weeks ago instead of putting me back on the other meds. Well the fioricet made me drunk as a skunk and didn't do anything for the pain.
This is why I flush any and all meds that do not help. It is not WORTH IT.
I truly feel sorry for you guys and hope that you can get the help you need and that it doesn't affect the rest of your life. You guys have tought me so much just by reading your posts.
The #1 thing I have learned is to take you meds as they are prescribed for the shortest duration necessary to get you back on your feet.
Thanks. And I hope you will get through this.
Chezz
I really feel for all of you. That is such a bumber that you have to go through so much to come off of this drug.
Like I told you guys before. That is what they gave me a couple weeks ago instead of putting me back on the other meds. Well the fioricet made me drunk as a skunk and didn't do anything for the pain.
This is why I flush any and all meds that do not help. It is not WORTH IT.
I truly feel sorry for you guys and hope that you can get the help you need and that it doesn't affect the rest of your life. You guys have tought me so much just by reading your posts.
The #1 thing I have learned is to take you meds as they are prescribed for the shortest duration necessary to get you back on your feet.
Thanks. And I hope you will get through this.
Chezz
Like I said. I just woke up, IT IS TOO EARLY for this!
I finally got some sleep, incase you were wondering. The night before I didn't get ANY sleep. And I couldn't even nap yesterday. SO I wasn't feeling too good.
Chezz
I finally got some sleep, incase you were wondering. The night before I didn't get ANY sleep. And I couldn't even nap yesterday. SO I wasn't feeling too good.
Chezz
Chezz - Thanks for the encouraging words to all us barb addicts. I think although we like different types of pills all of us here have something in common. We are addicts!!! The feelings and the compulsions are the same.
Unfortunately, in our situation I don't know if the "Thomas Recipe" would really help. It sounds like it really helps alot for the opiate addicts. I am just waiting to see this additionologist and praying I can get through this.
This forum really helps alot. I don't post alot but just reading about other people's struggles and triumphs over this horrible illness really helps.
I attend an AA meeting on Wednesday evening which I find very comforting. Last night I was a little upset because one of the speakers said she believes that AA is only for alcoholics. I really felt bad afterward like I was not welcome there because I happen to be a prescription drug addict. I mean don't we all suffer from the same horrible compulsion no matter what our addiction (opiates, benzos, barbs or alcohol).
I have never really been a drinker but when I talk to an alcoholic I can certainly relate to that horrible feeling of craving that they feel for the first drink.
Anyway, sorry to ramble on just want to wish everyone best of luck in their struggle (No matter what the pills are that trigger you addiction).
Have a pleasant evening
Golden Slipper
Unfortunately, in our situation I don't know if the "Thomas Recipe" would really help. It sounds like it really helps alot for the opiate addicts. I am just waiting to see this additionologist and praying I can get through this.
This forum really helps alot. I don't post alot but just reading about other people's struggles and triumphs over this horrible illness really helps.
I attend an AA meeting on Wednesday evening which I find very comforting. Last night I was a little upset because one of the speakers said she believes that AA is only for alcoholics. I really felt bad afterward like I was not welcome there because I happen to be a prescription drug addict. I mean don't we all suffer from the same horrible compulsion no matter what our addiction (opiates, benzos, barbs or alcohol).
I have never really been a drinker but when I talk to an alcoholic I can certainly relate to that horrible feeling of craving that they feel for the first drink.
Anyway, sorry to ramble on just want to wish everyone best of luck in their struggle (No matter what the pills are that trigger you addiction).
Have a pleasant evening
Golden Slipper
Thank you all for your responses! It is so great how eveyone jumps in to help. Please excuse my poor spelling of seizures, I guess I took the "i after e except afer c" too seriously! I also never take the time to re-read or do spell check!
That is upsetting what you mentioned Golden Slipper about last night at the AA meeting. I had mentioned that sort of thing in a couple of my posts.In NA also I have heard they do not want you using at all, even tapering when attending the meetings.They want you clean. Kind of makes you feel lost with no place to go. There should be no judgement, especially when someone is sincere.This is not putting down either of them, they are a Godsend to thousands of people.
The truth is,like you said, an addiction is an addiction!
In May when I was detox for 5 days, when I went in I had been taking 8 to 9 Fioricet a day for years. They stopped it cold turkey and started giving me low doses of valium towards the middle of the second day. When the shakes began or my blood pressure started going up, the valium took it away. By day 5 I did not need anything.
Because I do not want to enter detox again (twice in one year) I want to do it on my own. I have been given the valium (only enough for withdrawls) but I just would like so much more information to make sure I am doing the right thing.
The very scariest part is.....you are not going to believe this. The doc I got the valium from told me to JUST STOP the fioricet and take the valium to prevent seizures. Like it was nothing.
This is WHY I am on this forum. I was told many different things by different doctors. Which one is right??? I feel that those who have been there or know someone who has...are the best source of information other than if you are lucky enough to find an addictionologist.
Thank you again everyone....thank you for caring!
Stay the good people you are.
Connie
That is upsetting what you mentioned Golden Slipper about last night at the AA meeting. I had mentioned that sort of thing in a couple of my posts.In NA also I have heard they do not want you using at all, even tapering when attending the meetings.They want you clean. Kind of makes you feel lost with no place to go. There should be no judgement, especially when someone is sincere.This is not putting down either of them, they are a Godsend to thousands of people.
The truth is,like you said, an addiction is an addiction!
In May when I was detox for 5 days, when I went in I had been taking 8 to 9 Fioricet a day for years. They stopped it cold turkey and started giving me low doses of valium towards the middle of the second day. When the shakes began or my blood pressure started going up, the valium took it away. By day 5 I did not need anything.
Because I do not want to enter detox again (twice in one year) I want to do it on my own. I have been given the valium (only enough for withdrawls) but I just would like so much more information to make sure I am doing the right thing.
The very scariest part is.....you are not going to believe this. The doc I got the valium from told me to JUST STOP the fioricet and take the valium to prevent seizures. Like it was nothing.
This is WHY I am on this forum. I was told many different things by different doctors. Which one is right??? I feel that those who have been there or know someone who has...are the best source of information other than if you are lucky enough to find an addictionologist.
Thank you again everyone....thank you for caring!
Stay the good people you are.
Connie
Hi ya'll. I am glad I read this today about Neurontin. My doc just asked me if I wanted to try this along with my narcotics. He said the seizure meds help some people with the pain. I told him not right now. He asked if I was taking anything else besides the vics and percosets. I said "no". He has given me sleeping pills before, I quit taking them. He gave me Paxil, I quit that and also Lorazapam. I kept thinking, I don't really want to be on narcotics, but, that is all I need. I hate taking meds, so i only want to take what I really need. I am glad you guys talked about how it made you feel. Have either of you tried the Epidural with steroids. He asked if I wanted to give that a try. Should I? I also have the option now of some surgery, but, I will refuse that. If they had offered when I was first hurt in 78, I would have jumped on it. Not to scare anyone, but, I have 2 clients that are now paralyzed after going in for back surgery!!!!!!!!! I know it can work, but, now that I can deal with the pain with narcotice, I will do this and just hope and pray I will not abuse too often. Hope both of you are doing OK and that Skipper you aren't in too much pain from your surgery. Love to all.
sugerbeens:
was you once known here as butterbeans? or has my memory gone to
mush again. anyhow you remind me a lot of butterbeans. i used to do
the epidurals...but ther is so little left of my spine they don't really have anthig to shoot into now. my expierence was they were effective the first couple of times and then quit working...ah well
at least the people here don't do that!
gots to get my beauty sleep
keep an angek on your shoulder
was you once known here as butterbeans? or has my memory gone to
mush again. anyhow you remind me a lot of butterbeans. i used to do
the epidurals...but ther is so little left of my spine they don't really have anthig to shoot into now. my expierence was they were effective the first couple of times and then quit working...ah well
at least the people here don't do that!
gots to get my beauty sleep
keep an angek on your shoulder
Hi there old friend! Let me know how your epidural goes! Glad you are trying it before me. I too, have been reading this site everyday and am confused as what the heck is going on. It sounds like from reading everything that Chezz thinks there is an imposter on the site, possibly a DEA agent. People are becoming paranoid, me being one. I came back and started posting again because I need the support and like and try to support others here. I don't think I will continue to post, if I do it won't be often. No one here is doing anything illegal that i can see anyway, so why would anyone worry? We are all pain sufferers, some more than others, but, all just want to help each other. I was leary about posting on the internet, because as someone else put in another post today, they are a chiropractor and we are all just human and looking for help and support. I too have a family, good job I love and do well, so don't want my identity to be subject to scrutiny. Good luck WW with the epidural. Let me know how it goes. I am very nervous about trying it. Hope everyone else are doing OK and having a good day. Love to all.
Do you have to take off work for a few days after an epidural? I know my doc said that you have to bring someone with you to drive you home. Do they sedate you? Good luck and I hope it relieves some of your pain.
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