my brother is addicted to roxies....please help me help him

[turkee23]

my dad called me last week and told me that some gold braclets and rings were missing from his room, mainly his wife's stuff, but non the less it was missing. he also said something that i thought was a little odd too, but he said that all the tin foil in the house was gone, and he was finding burnt pieces in his room. both of my older brothers live there (jordan 24 and brent 27) my brother Jordan is sayin that it was our older brother Brent is the one who has been taking all the stuff. so my dad snooped a little and found the braclets and ring, they found it in his drawer, but didnt tell jordan. the next day jordan (still thinking they havent found it ) said "i saw him put it in the drawer".Brent just denies it totally. so what do we believe here?? jordan has been cutting himself on his arms, and last week my dad told me he carved f**k you in his chest backward. after my dad told me that i called him and asked why he did that and he said that it wasnt true, they they were lying and that he hadnt cut himself in a long time... i went to my dads house yesterday and i saw my brother he looked totally cracked out, his eyes were glossy, and looked like he couldnt focus on anything. just like wondering eyes. he was talking about this that didnt even make sense.... like what are you talking about????.....he couldnt sit still, his hand was going CRAZY!....like a hand twich or something i dont know ...i told him to take off his shirt and of course he had f**k you each letter atleast and inch big across his chest.. this is my older brother and he was clearly messed up on something.... i know he feels attacked when our parents try and talk to him, so when they went inside i asked him "are you on drugs"... he said "yes, pain pills my back hurts".. he said " i cant go to the doctor and get them prescribed, so im goin to go to the streets and buy them"... i asked what he was taking and he said Roxies, that he smoked them sometimes,snorted them or just swallows them.... like OMG!!... i donow know about anywhere else, but around here kids are dying left and right from these damn little blue pills. they are smoking,sniffing, eating and injectiong this drug that is made for herion users who are coming off herion.. my brother is already 5'9 100lbs and just looks sick... his teeth are starting to rott.... he told me he wanted to stop, but couldnt cause his back hurts and he dont wanna be in pain... he told my dad he wasnt going to stop ....(this is the next day that im writing this part) My older brother brent just walked in his room and saw him smoking them....jeeeez its so heart breaking. i know 2 people that doed from these and one that totally messed up his life and is now in jail facing 10 years.....

what do we do here????... i know my brother will die of he keeps this up, he doesnt eat, all he does it drink milk or soda....im scared for him....any input would be great... please help me help my big brother, we are 9 months apart and we are pretty close, he is mad at me right now for telling our parents but i dont care how mad he gets, i would rather have him here mad, then not have him here at all....

[Beccabeccalynn]

I am an addict so I know that being confronted sucked for me. The one thing I wanted to hear more than anything was "blank you know I love you and if you are ready to do something about these drugs then I am ready to help you, I am really scared for you and what this means for us" addicts who are actively using can't see what they are doing so you can't treat them like a non addict person. I always thought I was just hurting myself and that I could handle it. More like I couldn't get by with out it. Little did I know ! It took someone who had walked in my shoes and told my lies who is clean now to show me it's possible. I just thought I was broken gonna be stuck like that forever.
Luck to you

[bmdad]

So sorry to hear about your situation. At least you are here seeking support and trying to find advice on how to help. Like many others have said, he has to want it for himself and my have to hit rock bottom to realize it. If he does go to jail it may be a blessing in disguise. That may be his rock bottom or it may give him a chance to reevaluate his situation. It may be the one and only thing that will make him stop using. If anything positive can come out of this it will be him not being able to use while there. Granted, I know it must be very hard for you knowing he is in jail, but at least he will be safe and won't be able to use. Once again, I'm so sorry you and family have to deal with this. Just know we are here for you! Best of luck to you, your family, and your brother.
Brian

[momloves54]

I'm so sorry that you and your family are going through this! Addiction is anybody's worse nightmare! there is alot of good advice here, everyone on this forum truly cares and wants to help in any way they can! I will be praying for you and your family! your brother is really needing help if he got so angry and took a baseball bat to microwave! I just pray he has calmed down! you and your family might want to go to some support groups aa or na meetings are really good you need this for strength!!! maybe by hearing some of the stories you might get some direction to be able to help your family though this terrible thing that is happening in your family! you are in my thoughts and prayers

[turkee23]

so i dont know what happened, but my dad just called and said things have taken a turn for the worse....someone has been calling my dads cell phone ALL morning asking to buy a camera, my dad looked on the records and noticed someone used his phone from 11:30 pm till 4 am this morning.... my oldest brother does production (school of the arts and full sail graduate) his 6000 camera is gone...missing...nobody knows anything...of course... but my brother jordan got angry and flipped out, took a baseball bat to the microwave, and then threw it at his mother.... cops came but he took off...NOW my older brother is in another car chasing jordan down, brent is talkin to the cops on the phone trying to give them location.....this is crazy stuff man,,,,, not only do we have this drug problem now we gotta worry about them getting into an accident cause i know they are not driving at normal speeds and who knws whats going to happen... im at work and cant leave cause im the ONLY one here... im stressed out and dont know what going on really.....ugggggggggggggggggggg

please lord just help my brother... i dont know what else to do, we sent him to boot camp when we were younger, he needs help.. i just dont know of we can give it to him... now i know its going to be alot bigger issue becuase the police are now involved... im thinking  more jail time and a detox....oh no...

[turkee23]

hey thanks again everyone for helping out.... my dad came to the conclusion that they are going to take him to get an MRI to see if there is REALLY something wrong with his back.... if all test come back ok, then the next step will be detox for 30 days... i found a place that he can go to to get help.....thanks everyone...god bless you !....

[turkee23]

yea that sounds like agreat idea too brian thank you for all of you answers, im at a loss and i know my dad and his mother are too.....im going to talk to him and see how he feels about going to a detox, im sure he wont want to go, but maybe if I talk to him and see what he says...

just talked to my dad and he said he is going to take him to get an MRI and see if something is REALLY wrong with his back... my dad also asked "what if we take yoou and they say your fine, are you going to go back to using??"..he said he didnt know..... also i heard that suboxcine (sp??) is what they use for withdrawls....my dad asked "if we get you those pills so you dont with drawl with bad symptoms are you going to start again after"/......all he got was a schrug of the shoulders

[bmdad]

Sorry to here about your situation. Maybe if he is telling you so much about his use it is actually him crying out for help. It's not easy admitting to anyone no matter how close you are to them that you have a problem and need to go to rehab. If he refuses to go to rehab maybe you could talk to him about going through detox at your place and you can help him make it through? A great place for him to at least start is by coming on this forum and reading different posts of others experiences on here. He will learn the worst of the physical part will be over in about a week. More importantly he will realize he is not alone and there are so many people out here that have addictions. This forum has helped so many realize this and got them on the right path on getting clean. It won't be a easy journey for him but not impossible. There are many that kick their habits everyday. Maybe you could get him to make a deal by trying to detox at home (or you home) and if it doesn't work he'll agree to rehab.
You are doing a great thing by being there for him. It can be such a tough situation though. He won't quit unless he himself wants to. All you can do is provide the necessary tools and advice to push him in the right direction. I say try and get him on here first of all and get him to post his story on his own. He will get so many responses and it might get him thinking about it a little more. Just hang in there and keep trying! Best of luck!
Brian

[Marte313]

Sure worth a try at least ;)

[turkee23]

yea i thought about that as well.... because he does trust me.....he wouldnt have told them anything but i asked and he told me the truth without a problem......but he is telling me the same, that he is in pain from his back.... so i dont know

[Marte313]

Seems like he trusts you? Try inviting him over for a movie or something and talk to him about it without the confrontation-setting perhaps?

[turkee23]

he seems to talk to me the most and my dad is next in line . he is totally against his mother right now (my dads wife) i know she is a b*t*h so i could only imagine the thing she has been saying to him like "your a loser, or a druggie or something"..... i told her to back off of him b4 he does something dramtic and she regrets being rude to him... she has been talking about throwing him out and once again i had to say something , i personally think that would be the worst thing for him....im going to call my dad in a bit and tell him the things i found out about the detox program....see what he says...

i see this stuff on TV , and i watch intervention ALL the time...it just crazy that it hit home this time.....

[whitie]

sorry to hear this turkee, man that is obviously a major problem.

addicts lie,steal and cheat...

all you can do is keep confronting him. he sure seems to have some self esteem issues.  perhaps you and pops can corner him and intervene?

[turkee23]

no these pills are NOT prescribed to him.... he goes to the street to buy them and who know what you REALLY get off the street right??.... my dad told me this last week, i saw him sunday and he just looked horrible.... i just got off the phone with like local "detox" center and my friend whose father is a cop, they are saying that if he is not willing that i can get a court order or get a cop to pick him up and take him there......im not saying im an angel, i do smoke alot of weed and i drink, BUT i work FULL time and also a FULL time student and i know that not an excuse but it doesnt take ove rmy life and i can fully function with out it.....

[Marte313]

Yeah, seems like an excuse of course but if it gets checked out an nothing is wrong at least he has no excuse anymore.

They are prescribed to him you say? My best friend once got prescribed sleeping pills from her doctor. I was quick to notice she started to get addicted since I had been addicted myself. I brought her a list of withdrawal and addiction symptoms for her to realize what she was doing and I called her doctor to say he had to stop giving them to her. I got her to listen to me since she knew I was talking of experience and also I think because I guess it is easier to take advice from your best friend than your family.

[turkee23]

he doesnt know... i think that is just a cop put excuse... we are young ...we are both 24. he shouldnt really have any back problems we didnt play sports, or anything like that for him to get injured..... i also think our parents were almost enabling him to keep this habit....i would go over there, and go in his room and he would have his medicine smashed up and broken into line on his desk and would just sniff them, yes they were prescribed pills, but i just dont think its right and they should have put a stop to it then. now it has gotten out of control and im starting to get scared.....

thanks for writing me back i REALLY appriciate it

[Marte313]

I am so sorry to hear about your brother. I don't know what I could tell you though. To help someone quit is not a easy thing. My parents tried for years, but it wasn't untill I realized for myself I actually did it. One thing that surely doesn't help, I think, is to push him. For me it took a couple of very serious incidents to make me realize I just had to quit. What he needs is either a good motivation or something that makes him realize how serious his problem is.

I surely hopes he will figure this out and I'm sending my best wishes.

Does he know the reason for his back hurting? If that is the root of his problems maybe he should look into that?