Chicken for kickin'

[Tiredofkickin]

Newby here......I've kicked down from the 100 fentenal patch to the 25mg patch. BUT, I'm still taking my 7.5 perks, (about 6/7 per day and about 1/2 dozen "libbies" 25mg (librium.) I DO have a history of two neck operations after a work-related accident and now my lower back is shot to Hell. I've been on this veritable roller-coaster since '96 and CERTAINLY in the Spiritual "grey-zone." EVERY morning I wake up sick and have to use my "Tens" machine while I wait for the perks to kick in. (Sometimes about 2 hours.) I have a "great"? doc"/feelgood" and this AM I'm tempted to have him up me to demeral. (Used to get ER shots for the migraines..dem) THEN I FOUND THIS SITE!!! I'll tell ya...I'm a "chicken for kickin" and have really been around the block in that department, but instead of going down in dosage, I'm contemplating kickin' in the "after-burners." (Demies)Before I end up writting a book here, I'll ask my question/s. I've TRIED MANY TIMES CT...but it NEVER ENDS!!!!!! How long DOES it take before this **** is out of my system? It seems to be a "catch-22" because the pain is intolerable when I attempt to kick..(neck/low/mid/back.)I will go 4/5/6 days until I just say Fxxx it. Would the methadone program be a better way to go? (I've heard that's going from the fryin' pan into the fire!) 12 steppin ain't for me. (Been there...done that.)This "bland" existance is gettin VERY old and if it wasn't for my 3 kids & wife, I'd seriously consider "checking-out......." I'll be 51 years old here in June, so I'm no Spring-Chickin". I also NEED support and some feedback. HELP?

[suzneedshelp]

Hey!  WEll just dont use it daily as i did.. the stadol that is.  If you are quitting then let someone hold it for you...any narcotics in the house or refills left at the pharmacy call you 24 hours per day!  "COME TAKE ME;...YOU NEED ME...I AM YOUR ReFUGE... I'LL HELP YOU...JUST ONE WON'T HURT...YOU CAN CONTROL IT!"   NOT!!!!!!!  B.S gone wild!  Believe me and others.. that is how i relapsed.
beST WISHES..E-MAIL ME IF YA LIKE AT ***@****  opppss did not mean to still be shouting like our disease in our heads!
Peace...
Suzie

[skipper]

passerby:
for what it's worth...i've neve been able to taper.. my hats off to those who can... inalways took what was left in one big blast and let the horror show begin... but the thing is it is never as bad as i think it will be... when it comes time to be quitting, best be on your way...aint nobody gonna feel to bad for ya', so best clean up
your act (at least for awhile)!!

like i told lisabet...button up your coat, it still gets cold at night....
and keep an angel on your shoulder...
god loves junkys and fools (i'm both)
kip

[skipper]

Lisabet:
what a night...a telephone arguement with Rose (she is out of town with work)...even got mad at my dog (meaty-boy). wound up breaking the back door to my workshop...really made a first class ass of myself...so just finished fixxing the door and talking to rose on the phone...such a wonderful woman..she even wanted to tell me where her stash of hydros were...wouldn't touch her pain meds until i'm sure she wouldn't need them (she recently threw out her lower back)

see i used to wake up to a world of bewilderment...
angry with god and what ever.
now i like to awaken to a world of bewonderment...
a small creature...growing ever smaller as the world expands
with it's infinite multitude of posibilitys...

sorry about the spelling...
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[passenby]

I could use a little help here.I'm three days away from CT day and feeling really lo .I'm losing my confidence even before I get started because I have done so lousy tapering before the D-day. I dropped from 8 vikes a day to 6 in two weeks then this last 2 weeks I haven't been able to go down at all I tried dropping to 4 because the first two seem fairly easy couldn't do it so I decided it was to fast tried 5 didn't last one day. So here I am still stuck at 6. whats up with that I did so good on first 2 and couln't do anymore. We had a plan that we would try to taper till my husband could take off but keep me in some what of a comfort zone untill we left for cold turkey day well I slip in to that comfort zone at 6 and couldn't drop anymore without getting sick plus I had to work this week. I am a nail tech, can't do nails with the shakes. feedback please.

[lisabet]

I LOVE/RESPECT your ideologies (sp) - as in taxes, death and jonesing...smile....Sadly, it's the goddamn truth...heh-heh...glad you have your "irish rose" to keep you grounded; I remember her posting, but can't remember if she herself had a drug problem or she was posting because you had one.  (Sorry, past drug/alcohol use PLUS pre-menopause has made my memory short-circuited!!!)...smile.  Thanks for your concern, I've pretty much gave up the Jack Daniels thing, although I just can't seem to totally give up the vicodins, although I HAVE reduced  my usage about 50-60%.  I'm writing "frantically" in a journal every night; seems to help - I never realized I had so much to say....ha.  Again, thanks for your input and encouragement.  Love, Lisabet

[passenby]

Hey this is passen.I got one script for sadol nasel spray that has 10 sprays I thought I would use it only if things got really ugly and only as prescibed. once every 24 hrs you think thats taken a big chance? Let me know, not going to disreguard any ones advice.