Depression after oxycontin withdrawl. What will help? SaMe?

[Going price of OC 40]

I heard about a drug called SaMe could help with depression, anyone have any expeience with this?

[Philip1815]

Hi Brighty,

I left a message on Kacey's board, which apparently was ignored and then deleted, so I deleted Kacey's messages on this forum.

I agree that the whole thing looks bogus to me and we also resent being ripped off.

Regards,
Phil

[Brighty to Kacey]

Hi Kacey,

I was able to bring up the message board page which I was only the 12th visitor to. All the questions there are copies of questions which were posted here on earlier dates which is curious to me. I cannot find a home page. When I try to get to the home page ( none is listed anyway) I get an error message. Does this site you are recommending have a home page and if so who is the webmaster ?? I wish to have more information on this site. Can you please post it ?? You left numerous messages here about this site and so far it seems to be another bogus site. Please correct me if I am wrong. Best wishes, Brighty

[Brighty to Brian]

Hi Brian,
I'm glad to hear your reply which makes more sense than the logic of the doctor treating my daughter... not an addiction doctor... he's a psychiatrist. He had her on 40 mg. of Paxil ..up from 20 and a total of only 9 days on it as well. He just abruptly (no taper) took her off in favor of depakote. She is still on the Effexor though. The doctor before him mysteriously left staff and had been weaning her off the paxil... she had been off for 2 days and this new doctor put her back on and 9 days later took her off !! No wonder we are reading all these horror stories here. I am shocked at the use of these medications without continuity or not long enough to see results. I called this psychiatrist today and asked him about Remeron. He told me it was a poor choice for suicide ideation type of depression and to leave the practice of medicine up to him. Since Gina is in a treatment facility and he's the staff psychiatrist there is little that we feel we can do. I guess I'm just venting like some of the folks here. In any case, your comments are very helpful and are better than what some of us are paying for. Blessings. Brighty

[norma to mike and micheal]

I too went to my doctor of ten years and told him I wanted to taper off my meds. I suffer from fibromyalgia and a harniated disk. I take 4 to 6 soma a day and 4 to 6 hydrocodones. My doctor sais he wasnt worried about it, and he kept filling me up every 10 days. Then, allof a sudden he gets worried? wants me to stop?
Then help me I said. Taper me off. He said I shouldnt have a problem, hell, does the thought of killing yourself not seem like a problem? H e said he would give me some ultram- NO WAY I said, thats just as bad. Now he ehs me in physical tharapy again and I hurt sooooo bad. He doesnt even want to discuss klonopin,
zanax, or elavil- he said its all in my head. I have two children and take care of my father who is dying of alzheimers
and I run my own hair salon. I am in pain 24/7. Yes Mike, when your in chronic pain you should have something to relieve it.I cant believe my doc of 10 yrs. just jokes about it. I told him to look at me like I was his first patient,not someone hes known for 10 yrs. He said klonopi was just as addicting,blah, blah,
has he lost his mind? does he know my heart races every night? I cant sleep have lost 16 pounds,ect. I'm definatly checking out anew doc. Thanks for listening.

[to Vicodin Gurll]

Hello.  I'm not sure why many physicians prescribe Paxil for opiate addicts, other than it is an effective antidepressant that has sedative effects.  I think many physicians think part of what some addicts are doing is self-medicating, and what they assume the addicts are self-medicating is anxiety.  Since Paxil has anti-anxiety properties, it is chosen.  What the physicians often don't consider is that it can be too sedating and is hard to withdraw from without rather unpleasant side effects.  Remeron is a relatively new antidepressant.  It is not exactly an SSRI, but is an alpha 2 receptor antagonist, which also blocks specific serotonin and norepinephrine receptors, increasing the amount of those chemicals in the nervous system.  It has few side effects, mainly some weight gain in some patients and it tends to be sedating.  It should be taken at night due to the sedating effect.  It seems to be effective at treating anxiety.  Because it has similar positive effects, and less side effects and is easier to withdraw from, it is a better choice IMHO than Paxil.  Celexa is a relatively new SSRI, the main side effect of which seems to be insomnia (and some sexual side effects).  Brian

[tom]

Mike,
you sound well and truly lost tonight. Been where you are SO many times ... Mike you must believe me: you need to seek out an AA or NA meeting tomorrow if not tonight. No one understands us but our fellow addicts. You might as well talk to the wall as talk to someone who hasn't been where we are. Only another struggling, recovering addict can lend you the kind of strength you need now. I think the worst thing about being an addict is the lonliness, anyway. You say you're chucking down Valiums and Lomotils and working the walk-ins for whatever they will give you. My memories of those goddamn clinics is hateful. It is so humiliating and dehumanizing. And the inevitable contempt punctuated with indifference you no doubt are getting from the staff of these clinics only makes you feel more isolated and even further from any meaningful help. The Valium, combined with the Lomotil and as many hot baths as you can stand will help you get through the night. But nothing will get better until you share your pain with people just like us in an AA or NA meeting. It doesn't matter what kind of meeting -- most addicts are hooked on multiple kinds of drugs anyway. But believe me, there is no magic combination of alternate drugs that will fix you. You must make contact with another human being who can lend you their strength -- and in helping you get through the night, they will help themselves. What Bill W. disovered about fellow addicts being the only ones who could help in this thing of ours is profound. The hand of another addict will lift you out of the abyss. I will monitor this bulletin board every 30 minutes from now on should you want to talk. Mike, you and I are human beings worthy of respect, human beings with futures in front of us, if only we can take each other's hand. Whatever help I can give to you across this internet -- I will give. You are not alone, Mike. My heart goes out to you wherever you are. Life can be so good. Stay alive tonight. Don't go back to the walk-ins or worse. We will both make it, you and I, if we take each other hands and help each other reclaim our own humanity. I will be here tonight as long as you want to talk.