Does The Thomas Receip Really Help?

[SayingNO]

As of right now I have gone from 180 mg of oxy a day to CT.  My last 40 mg oxy was at 10pm last night. 7am this morning I woke up not feeling too bad.  Its now 2am and I and I don't know where to turn?????
I bought all the stuff for the Thomas Receip and would really love to know if it really helps.
I've started with the vitamins and protiens shakes but just want a little inside scoop please.
I do realize I will have W/D buts does  The Thomas Receip help.
Thank
Saying

[LateAugust]

Thank you so much for the nice comments,  but I truly do not deserve them.....  I was going to respond to you  in a note  or PM  but I thought it best to reply here so I it does not appear I am misleading anyone.   My daughter is 22     and she began her addiction to opiates after playing in all types of drugs.  She didn't get her drugs from a doc due to any type of pain or physical accident,  she bought them off the street.    I can not say I understand,  after all this time I still don't get it,  and was not anything I ever expected to exprience....   but there is no one  or anything I can blame other than my baby  and decisions she made in her life......    other than being a mom  do we ever get away from the guilt?

Gosh we have been thru rehab   4 times    if you do look at my posts I think you will find there was no stone left uncovered....  including Suboxone.  My  point  was it is not an easy or magic answer....  opiate addiction,   as all  addiction is truly hell.......

Thank you for sharing how well your son is doing  and I hope you both will always stay so strong.  My  best thoughts are with you!!  Sincerely,  Jeanette

[windowsca]

I LOVE seeing posts like yours!  I just posted on snoozieQ255 and you beat me by two minutes with the same train of thought.  I, also have an addicted son, he just turned 20 and got addicted to Norco after an injury when he was almost 18.  We didn't know it was an opiate based drug.  We didn't know anything about prescription drugs period!  Sure do now - I could write a freakin book on opiates!  When I realized his problem, one of the ways I tried to control it (pretty fuuny, huh?) was to cancel his health insurance, cause he was getting more and more from his Dr.  Needless to say, all that did was make it impossible to afford rehab.  I've researched the heck out of everything I can imagine and decided to "copy" as much as the budget would allow, in following a Narconon type program, which is all holistic.  It's been 9 months of a sober, happy, functioning kid, so, so-far-so-good!  I'll have to search around and find your story, but thought I'd say thanks for standing up for drug-free over drug-switch way of thinking - there's a lot of educating yet to be done.  Have a great day!

[LateAugust]

Personally  I think there is a huge difference from physiological  needs of the body   vs. psychological  rememedies of the mind........      the only thing that truly  matters is what helps you feel better .......   minerals    exercise    counceling     massages   vitamins   meetings   etc       The huge part is your brain  and how hard you are willing to fight for sobriety......   there is absolutely no magic  cookie cuter answer that fits all individuals.   Keep trying,   and stay focused on your goal,  do whatever works the best for you  and please don't forget the long term support you will need,  

[themountains]

Good for you!  Sounds like you are doing great.  All the natural stuff sounds perfect, it will help relieve some of those withdrawal symptoms- even though you still feel like 'ish'.  I wish i was as strong as you right now.  My lazy *** has been going a day or two without pills, to finding just a couple and taking them or stashing them until i have enough to get a normal high.  Such a nasty thing to do.  Please keep us updated when you can?  I wish i was as strong as you right now.  

[SayingNO]

AWSOME AWSOME AWSOME I will be like you with 3 months clean in 2 months 1 week and 4days...lol...and smoking, holy jezz I light up put out and light up again. Smoking right now helps it keeps my hands busy and I am not a knitter or crafty person. But I really should find a hobby.
Thanks
Saying

[Krystenc]

ive been clean for 3 months now.. i KNOW you can do it... i honestly go with naughty.. i got mad at the pills for messing up my life... i turned to cigarettes and protein shakes... i also took tylenol PM at night so i woldnt wake up all the time.. but i dont even think about them anymore.. now my next thing is to stop smoking lol...

i wish the best of luck to you.. i wil keep in touch.

[SayingNO]

I do hate them pills!!!!!!  If I wasn't on them or for fear of running out on vacation or getiing busted on a road trip for brining narcotics across the border I'd be with my family. But the summer isn't over yet. And I will make it up too them. They derserve it.
I will beat this addiction and clear the fog in my brain. And hopefuly get my butt off this couch within the next couple of days.
Thanks Nauty

[SayingNO]

Sooo I am really really really not dying...lol...wow can still make a little humour.  
I'm coughing, sneezing, running to the bathroom (sorry) and I so do not want to move off my couch. Not only are my legs twiching but so are my arms and whole body.  Whoo just no energy at all.  And the no sleep part really bites. Its a good thing I am home alone for the next 11 days. Except for my very best friend who is here everyday for a few hours just checking in. My husband and son have gone away for 2 weeks. So hopefully by the time they get back I should be over a large hump of this detox.  I planned it this way so they wouldn't see it or feel the affects of my nastiness..
Thank you for your info on the sleep aid. My pharmacy delivers THANK GOD!  I think I'll get some today.
I'll keep posting when I can and let me know how your doing lisalee looks like we are real close in our detox together.
Take care doll and we will bet this monster.
Saying

[lisalee872]

I found some stuff last night that helped me a little at the drug store. I'm on day 3 of detoxing and I have all the hell symptoms as I like to call them. At walgreens I found a sleep spray that has valarian root and melatonin, its called sleeptime, you spray it under your tongue, it helped with the anxiety and then I got legatrim pm, it really helped with the restless leg and the sleeping last night. I was only on half of what you was on but I have to say since I have no benzos, the all natural helped, had a better night last night than the night before. Hang in there, I'm sure it'll get better, theres to many people on here thats done it for it not to get better.

[NautyOne]

The protein shakes are great.....if you can keep them down. I couldn't eat for a month !  But, I did a slow taper.....I over did it on the water if you could believe that, and ended up passed out on the shower floor....lol.......well, lol now, but not at the time.....:-))

That's a lot of Oxy to basically CT off of.......I don't care what you take whether it be detox  kits, Thomas Recipe, vitamins, or whatever.......Your most likely gonna feel like ****....I think attitude is key.....when I quit, I was mad as hell !!  and because of that, they were probably 1/4 of what I had experienced with previous attempts.....get mad at those ******* pills.......hate them from every ounce of your core being !!  it worked for me....?

Please keep us posted on how your doing.  You CAN do this.......

Luv,
Nauty..............

[guv338]

He does answer prayers.  I am living proof of that.  I remember sitting in my garage at all hours of the night, trying to get warm, and praying for just another breath and another minute.  Just ask for what ever you need at the time.  I know that we are allowed to make our own mistakes at times in our lives, but I also believe that when we are at our weakest moments that God will provide for us and will guide us to the right path.  I hope you feel better soon.  Be patient, very patient.  

[SayingNO]

Thank you for your kindness.  I will keep in touch.  I feel as though I am at the point of foot prints in the sand where he is carrying me at this point.
And as I get stronger I will walk again on my own two feet. One day at a time it is.  God does answer prayers.
Tank you again.
Saying

[guv338]

All of the things you are doing may help.  They certainly wont hurt you and anything that you can get in your body during this time will be good.  I too am  a first timer.  I was taking about 600 mg Oxy per day.  I know it was a lot.  Had been that way for several years.  I cant say that I have made it out yet.  My last Oxy was Jan 24, 09.
It is a daily fight.  Of course in the early stages where you are now is the worst of it.
Just think small steps.  Everytime I would get on the edge, I had to get my mind back down to the small steps.  Just pray for another day clean, another hour or what ever you need at the time.  You can get through this, its just a battle.  Be a warrior and you will find yourself on top of the game.  Be Proud of what you are doing, even when it seems to breaking you.  You can beat this it you truely want to stop using.  I prayed constantly during the first several weeks and know that God was walking, pushing and guiding me every step of the way.  He will guide you through the fog as well.  Let me know whats going on and I'll try to help if I can.  Peace be with you.

[SayingNO]

Thanks man,   I've tryed to load up on protien shakes, bananas, b6 gel caps, a multi vitamin with the recommened minerals,  I even bought a holistic detox kit from a health food store.  I don't have access to any form of a benzo I believe they are called to help with axniety.  As for my sauna I bought epsom salts and the johnson baby night time bath with chamomile, so when I get out of my sauna I can just hop into a hot hot tub with the salts and bubble bath.  I just pray to God this helps some to ease thw WD's.  How did you make out?  Any more suggestions for a first timer?
Thank you so very very much.
Saying No

[guv338]

If you are going to sweat it out, make sure you replace the fluids.  Drink as much water, gatoraide, etc.  You will be losing a lot of fluids even without all of the sweating from the sauna.  You dont want to get dehydrated  The fluid loss in the first month for me was devestating.  So be careful.

[SayingNO]

Im sweating now would it help get rid of the detoxing faster?

[SayingNO]

Silly question but a sauna is just steam would that work as well as the bath or jacuzi?
Saying

[NautyOne]

nope.  in my opinion.  Withdrawal is what it  is.  I wouldn't  waste my money.  it is what is ,  .............it suks


I wish you the best.

luv,
nauty............................

[themountains]

SORRY!  I didn't realize it was already 2AM.  YES take the benzo NOW.  Hopefully you do not work tomorrow?  The key to the recipe is that you will mostly sleep the next few days while your body is detoxing and this will help you not feel so rotton (in your stomach).  Also, I would keep some ibuprofen on hand just to help with the aches but for sure take baths.

ANYWAYS- yes take a benzo now.  You will sleep good and then tomorrow take it easy.  Good luck!

[themountains]

The only way to find out is to try it.  You are going to feel awful the rest of the day.  Be sure to have some imodium on hand, and also some vitamin B6 (helps with alertness).  I have never tried the receipe, but if you happen to have some benzo's on hand (the valium, xanax, clonazepam, etc) I would take one now just to relax you until tonight.  Good luck!