HELP! 3RD DAY CT!! OXYS

[raventwo]

my husband is on his 3rd day of ct w/d's, and he says its worst than the other 2 days so far! He's had diarrhea, (taking immodium,not helping) he's throwing up, he's got the rls, up & down all night, and I imagine all day. (i work, so i'm not here)!! He's been taking the multi-vitamin everyday, and some Xanax to help to sleep. We bought the stuff for the Thomas Recipe, and we're doing what it says, but you dont take the L-Tyrosine + B6 until after tomorrow right? He won't get in the hot baths either. He is sooo terribly miserable! I dont know what to do to help him. Are there any other suggestions? If anybody remembers, he was taking about 7 80mgs oxys, roxi's, and ms contin, (not at the same time)when he started going ct he was taking ms contin 100mgs, and very little of those. I know he will get better, and I'm not worried about him "staying" clean at all, I'm worried about his health, when should I consider taking him to the ER?  Any helpful advice would be so welcome!  I found this forum, and I read it every single day! Sometimes, I am up way late, just so I can read every post!! Thanks to all!!!

[topcat184]

topcat has been full blown narcotic wd many times. he knows what's going to happen ahead, cus he's been through this so many times before. the emotions you can't help them. every sense is so heightened, because it's been numb for so long. and he can relate to the SMELL...he claims he can smell a woman. TCat says your hubby will be ok by Monday..not 100% but doable. That's an awful pressure to add to your mix right now. We wish you all the best. our thoughts and prayers that everything will just continue on the up and up.  
we're just learning our way around in here and seeing others' posts. hang in there. you've done great!! when this is over, you two should get a sitter and take an evening out, or something. girl, you must be exhausted!! Love to You  

[TrayCee]

great news!!!  So glad hes doing better!

The bad news is
"Relapse rates for addictive diseases do not differ significantly from rates for other chronic diseases. Relapse rates for addictive diseases range from 50 percent for resumption of heavy use to 90 percent for a brief lapse."

[raventwo]

Hi everybody! It's day 9!!  Hubby feeling better than yesterday, so far knock on wood, each day is getting better than the day b4!!!! YIPPEEE!!!  He just left to go for a ride in the car, hope he is well enough to do so, he says he NEEDS to get out, and he just wants to put the windows down, and feel the wind! He is going to put gas in the car, and just go as long as he can i guess. He has the phone, so he can call me if he needs me.  He is getting a little freaked out that he starts a new job on Mon. and he won't be feeling up to it. He says he CAN'T FEEL LIKE HE DOES RIGHT NOW! There is no way he can start a new job like this. I have to be honest with everybody out there, he said something last night that freaked me a little- he said- "the only thing that will bring me down, is if I still feel like this come Mon. thats the only thing i can see, that would deter my progress"!  WHAT THE HE** DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY?? That he will have to take "something"?????? I will kick from here to kingdom come if he even THINKS about it! I swear I will! I asked him, so you want to go through this again huh? You like this feeling, you like how you have felt the past 8 days huh?? He said, hell no- but if i have to just put this on hold until we have the $$ for me to go in to a full on detox facility than I will have to do that, but i can't start a new job like this. So i said, and he agreed- that if he should feel this way, on Monday- he would call & tell them he unfortunately got the flu, and he feels terrible, but that he would come in. We both agree this is not the best route to go- but he CAN NOT turn back! He knows it too! We dont really have the $$$ either for him to stay home any longer, but we'll do whatever we have to, to make it work. I have been working overtime, and plan on going in to work this weekend, so that will be a little more money, that could help out for now. And some things will just have to be late.  I mean, come on- He can't possibly want to turn back, right??? He can't possibly want to battle this, these demons again can he?? Well, I cant and wont. no way!  So, he says his stomach still hurts, but today ate 4 sandwiches, and i bought some more gatoraide, he's going through that like crazy, which is real good.  He is trying not to take the pepto, even though it says for stomache aches, because he feels like this is why he can't "release" as much as he would like to, and he feels like that is why his stomach hurts.He says, he IS taking the vitamins, the B12 for energy, he hasn't had any Xanax since last night, and he still has no energy. He says he did get on the treadmill about 10X, tried making it for 10min. but couldn't. I got home, rubbed his back & legs, and now he's off.  Anyway- just keeping you all updated, on his progress. Things are looking up!!!! Oh real quick- He is having a LOT OF NIGHTMARES!!! Is this normal??  Hang in there, we are ALL IN THIS TOGETHER! WITHOUT YOU ALL, I WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN THROUGH, AND NEITHER WOULD MY HUSBAND! YOU HAVE ALL SAVED HIS LIFE, AND MY SANITY!! PLEASE KEEP POSTING!!! LUV YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!  XXXXXOOOOOO

[mak17]

i am so happy to hear that he is doing a little bit better... and that this experience is opening up some emotions.  i know it is doing the same for me... my fiance is definitely laughing a bit when i start crying watching american idol because the song is "speaking" to me. :)  
but, i think you are incredible.
i am doing ok.... i have my moments of feeling ok but then my moments of feeling absolutely horrible.  i think it is like this becuase i am tapering and it is not completely out of my system yet.  i have also been doing some of the l-tyrosine and it is helping me.  but truly, i am not sleeping and feel like i want to jump out of my skin but have no energy at the same time.  it is the most indescribable, strange feeling i have ever had.  i am sure your husband has felt it times 100.  i do agree the the clonidine is also helpful but i see that it works differently for some people.
i just want you to know you are not alone and that you are doing incredible.  please tell your husband the same.  we will all make it.
mak

[rosebud66]

OMG i am so happy to hear.  i was waiting all day for an update and i am so glad he is doing better.  might not feel like it to you but just look back and you will see the difference.  read up on amino acids.  people who are recovering rave about them.  i would just stick to the multi vitamin for now until his tummy is better and then start the amino acids.  just remember to patient cause it will be awhile for him to get his energy back.  and the rls should start to subside a bit not all the way but some of it anyway.  try and get that valium out of there.  that also will contribute to the rls as well as low energy.  i realize he needs to sleep but the melatonin should help with that.  remember that the room must be dark and quiet for that to work.  good luck you guys are doing great!!!  

[raventwo]

Sorry, I keep talking & talking, now i sound like my husband huh??!! He wanted me to tell you guys that he feels, like with all the drugs he was putting in his system, for all that period of time, that he feels it numbed every sense in his entire physical & mental being, and now that he's completely off of it, every sense is "awakened", & heightened, it's almost like, it's too much, you know? Like every smell, touch is way way way to much, that he can't take it. He wants to know from you guys, is that how you feel? or felt? and does that sound about right?  He also said to tell everybody thank you so much for the support and advice, for me and for him, He says he thinks he will get on here once he's feeling up to it, and post something to you all. And thats BIG for my husband, he is a very private person so trust me it is a big deal for him to do this!!  He also said, he really is big into the whole mind over matter thing, I believe i told you that b4, he also knows that mind over matter when your going through this horrible of w/d's is extremely hard, just like one of the posts above said, when your sweating through towels, and clothes, etc....its hard to think mind over matter! He is very strong willed, and once he puts his mind to it, he can do anything. So when i tell him that i read other posts about users and w/ds off of oxy, and they say day 17 & still cant sleep, or still have no energy, he is very quick to just believe more & more in his mind, no way will that be him. He WILL FEEL BETTER and it will NOT linger!! I hope he's not setting himself up for a major let down, but i think he's saying he is just going to keep "willing" his way through. Just wanted to tell you about the senses and the taking the drugs and numbing everything, and now because he's not, its like all his senses are saying, "oh, now you want us to start working again, and feeling like we're supposed to" He says its like he is one big open exposed nerve right now!!! He can't wait until he feels 100%, so he can start being a real father, & husband, and he can start doing things with the kids, every day, instead of sitting in the hole every night!!!  Ok- gotta get a shower, & fold some clothes. Talk to you all tomorrow!!! Thnx again for the support.