HERE IS SOME FREE SPACE FOR YOU TO USE!

[CGTMHI]

Thought you all might like a little additional space today to share your thoughts ....

Cindy Thompson

[mrmichael67]

Thanks Cindy.

[pheggie101]

i second that, thanks cindy

[Nana42]

mrmichael, you've given me good, solid advise on a couple of 'panic' days, along with some others here...of which I have appreciated IMMENSELY!!!!

I'm on my way to the final countdown and need your thoughts on how I should do this (I'm scared SL!!!!).

I'm going to do the taper thing and I have 36 Vicodin left (with no refills) and am taking 4/day right now (have taken this amount for just over a year now).  My question is this...

How should I taper?  Should I start taking 3/day for the next 4 days...then 2.5/day for 4 days...2/day for 4 days...etc?  Or is it better to cut down even more per day, but do it over a longer period of time?  Say...starting out by dropping to 2/day for 8 days, then dropping to 1/day for 8 days, then 1/2 a day for the remainder?

I've never gone through W/D, other than waiting for my prescription to be refilled for a day or so and I want to do it in the best possible way.  My doctor hasn't really given me a taper 'schedule', just saying that I have to cut down every few days until I'm out...and that he won't refill after these are gone (remember last week when he wasn't even going to fill this prescription?).  I'm so afraid of this whole thing, but the countdown is on and I know I have to do it!

Any advise?

Thank you SOOO much!

Peace, Nana

ps. Should I start taking any of the vitamins/supplements that you've recommended on this site NOW?  Or wait until I'm out of pills?

[mrmichael67]

I would say the shorter amount of days is the way to go.  Actually, either way will work, but the first way sounds like it will be less traumatic.  If you want, email me at ***@**** any time you need a word of advice.  I am always available.

[skipper]

cindy, phill, all the Docs and all of the addicts:
what is left to say but thankyou....rarely do addicts have the opertunity to meet and share in a place where they are treated as huan beings...thankyou
and keep an angel on your shoulder
(never throw your dreams away)
kip

[jack daniels]

Kip said it all...i know that i received a lot of help from eveyone here...thanx everyone for your understanding and support and friend ship in this hell hole of addiction...clean 22 days today...but only with the help of everyone here..thanx so much for this free site, you have no idea what this worth to someone like my self..Jack

[jack daniels]

http://pub177.ezboard.com/fpainaddictionwithdrawalhelpandsupportfrm2

eveyone come on over...we will leave the light on for you..Jack

[bmac]

You have had to put up with me for awhile now and I really enjoyed the warnings, I learned from them. I hope you can find another Doc to listen to us but for what it's worth, this place helped save my life last year and for that I will always be greatful to you and Phil, Thanks!  Bill McNabb

[theGolden1]

I am shocked! Is it necessary to have a doctor to have a forum?
I liked ezee board but it was too hard to navagate. I have started an ultram board ... so easy to use. Email me and I will send you the link. I am 25 days off of ultram and only using a half of a vicodin pill in the afternoon ... which I will push to the nightime and then stop completely .... with God's help. All I can say is I am so sad ... (I guess I'm a little down anyway)
How will I find all of you .... we have a few days, maybe we can organize something. I wanted to help all the ultram people .... but if there was a place where we could post more than 2 x's a day .. then it wouldn't be necessary for a special "place" it's normally called a thread or a subject ... I hope everyone will post their email addresses here so we can keep in touch ..... we need each other .... ***@****

[Ronsin]

I don't post that much,but I have been here for almost a year. Last year at this time there were no Doctors monitoring this forum. I have been clean now for 8 months,mostly due to this forum. The Doctors here are pretty good,but I stopped whithout any doctors monitoring. So I don't understand why this forum can't go on without The Doctors.The Hepatitis & Maternal & child forums are Un-moderated.
AND WHAT MAKES ME REALLY MAD IS TAHT I NEVER GOT TO ASK A QUESTION.
                            Ron

[Jerri2]

I know what ya mean about not getting to ask a ? But I did get one in awhile back!I've been here since Jan.Come on over to the PAWS board its nice!!Jerri

[Ronsin]

Were is the PAWS board?.

[Jerri2]

Go up to c7 on this thread.The addy is posted there by jack daniels.But leave off the 2 at the end of it!It will take you into it.Its on ezboard site.When you get in register and then you can post!Hope to see you there! Love ya..Jerri

[Ronsin]

I have a better idea. July 1st, everyone click on FORUMS at the top & go to the mental health forum. I've been there, It's probably where we all belong anyway.If we get kicked out of there there are 15 other forums to try. (Cindy, please don't kick me out for for this, I am just angry about the whole situation).

[Expillman]

Did you also enjoy losing to Auburn?  Tomorrow will be 30 days CT off of Oxycontin, whether anyone believes it or not.  No big problems except occasional increased bowel motility.

[peaz]

Well where the HELL am I supposed to rant and rave now???!!!!   Where else will I find a situation where people HAVE to listen simply because they can't get AWAY???!!  LOL  
      It's sad to see the some of the most worthwhile things in life disappear because of MONEY.......What a fine howdoyado......!   I am going to take this opportunity to leave my board (or is it BORED??) life and try my hand at REAL life.....But I wanted to say goodbye to all of you fine people.  You have enriched my life in so many ways; whether it be through laughter, tears, or a deep philosophical discussion.  Let's face it: people are what make the world go 'round--and you have all been THE BEST !!!  
      Some of you have become my very close friends and of course I will remain in touch w/ you....especially the men I am going to marry.....LOL     But if anyone would like to email, please do at ***@****    My love and best wishes to each one one you. To those who are just beginning detox or need help, I urge to to find another board and dig in---DON'T GIVE UP over this minor adjustment!!  There is STILL lots of support out there!!
      Bye guys--I'll be in and out until the END END (the anus??:-) so don't think you've gotten rid of me so easily!!
     Love from my heart-----Peazy

[peaz]

P.S.  There were a HUNDRED (well, okay--5 or 6) more names on the header as addressees, but evidently there is a limit.....so if your name isn't there---you must imagine that it WAS-----as I'm sure it WAS......LOL  You know I never forget a face..:-)   XXXXXX

[pammy0690]

I love you girl and thank you for being so very kind and good to me.  I came to this forum at my lowest point in my life and was able to change it with a little help from my friends.  I know we will still be in touch but I wanted you to know how much you rock!  Pammy

[Inmytree]

Reading all these posts here is very touching. I wish all of you the best in this honorable fight against a hideous disease.  For some reason, we all found this place so we can all find another place. If I  ( and I am sure many others) could figure out a way to drive 40 miles to an urgent medical care to "score" or to trick a person who went to 10 years of school to write us a 20 tab script for ( fill in drug of choice here..) we are strong enough to carry on. ( at least that is what I am telling myself!) Keep believing everyone, in your God, and in yourself!

[KimH]

Remember the conversation we had the other day about you flushing all those pills? Well, I found a stash, not a big stash, but nevertheless, a stash to me! The worst part is when I went to fill my script, they gave me the NAME BRAND because they were out of the generic. Right there I wanted to take them! Just because they are not generic! I talked myself (yelled at myself) right out of it! I said "NO WAY IN HELL! I WILL BE SICK THE REST OF THE WEEK AND JUST NO! I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN! CASE CLOSED!" Now I had a headache and went to get advil, I must have stashed 5 (not many but i'm use to taking 1/2's throughout the day and 5 would do it!). I don't mean to get weird on everyone, but see how evil this thing is? This TRYING AND OUT TO GET ME! I said no! I don't have enough, and it's like right at that time, it actually says "Well how's this? I'll give you 5 to start" WHAT THE F*CK! I'm sorry but this is some sick sh*t! I seriously believe it is alive!This is not a coincidence! My sister said the same! When she wants drugs and has money she can't get them! But everytime she tries to quit, EVERYONE WANTS TO COME GIVE HER SOME FOR FREE! Sometimes I feel that the way Jesus is to God, Addiction is to satan! I'm sorry if I'm getting all nutty, I just am rambling because I don't want to think about what is behind me in the other room! If anyone can help, I put your name jack because I remember our conversation! I posted my picture on drugabuse.com site. I was just having fun and trying not to think. If anyone ever goes there it's under sweetthang and slow down Kim (LOL) thanks KIMH

[jack daniels]

flush it or have someone get it out of the house...yes we are addicts we and not deal with that....i can't...if i have them i will take them...holy **** just do something....you can't set there and think about those damn pill..pray to God to help you and he will...God bless you...Jack

[KimH]

I told my dad! He called and I cried and told him! He knows what I am going through! He said either way, he is taking 5 pills home with him! so that way if I try to take them, I will be short 5 anyway! I only have enough for the day! They are givin to me like that so I don't take too many! I feel like I'm gonna puke! HE'S COMMING TO TAKE THEM AWAY HA HA! I feel sick! KIMH

[jack daniels]

Good for you...you did the right thing...ask for help and you receive it...Outstanding...i was worred about you...Be strong...and you will feel much better about your self..Jack

[Jerri2]

I hope all your dreams come true and you live a rich and well deserved life!But we need you to at least post once in awhile cause all your men are going to cheat on you!My e'mail is ***@**** if you ever want to drop a line.I dont e'mail to much but would love to keep in touch!Like you I've had a lot of laughs and tears in my short 6 months on here!Love to you..Jerri

[KimH]

UUUGGHHH! I FEEL TERRIBLE! I GUESS I SHOULD BE PROUD BUT INSTEAD ALL I HEAR IS "YOU STUPID IDIOT! YOU F*CKN MORON! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SUCH A LOOSER, YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THEM IF YOU FEEL REAL SICK, WHAT IF YOU NEED THEM!" I don't feel happy about what I did! I almost wish I could go back! but I can't. Maybe one day I'll be glad. Right now I feel pissed off! Thank you Jack! I don't think I could have flushed them! My Dad called right at the right time! Lucky for me (I think) KimH

[Inmytree]

I have been in that EXACT situation at LEAST 100 times! EVERY SINGLE TIME I was weak! If you don't take them, you will definitely be my Goddess ( for what THAT is worth!) Stay strong please, for me.

[mrmichael67]

You know you will find somewhere to rant and rave.  Love ya doll.  Don't ever change for anyone.

[soberchic]

I have never been here before.  Do you guys go to meetings?

[Jerri2]

Some of us do and some dont!Thats a major debate for some!!Love ya..Jerri

[jack daniels]

And i have been in that EXACT situation at LEAST 1000000 times! EVERY SINGLE TIME I was weak EVERY TIME! like a true addict.... Stay strong please, that is Y we are called addicts...you did the right thing...yes it's hard but you did good girl...just hang in there...my moto is if you don't have it you can't take it...hey it keeps me clean...work hard..stay clean..Jack

[jack daniels]

i go to meeting daily...that's my daily meds now...it beats the other ****..Jack

[wannabclean]

Hang in there Kim! I've not been to this site in a few days b/c it was becoming to much of a reminder of what I was trying to forget about.  I'm on day 7 w/o buprenex and day 13 w/o hydro.  I truly believe w/o your help I would still be taking them. I did not want to let you down, someone I never met nor someone I even really know. That said you reached out to me and I can without question say I AM DONE! THANKS KIM!!!! And thanks for everyone else sharing. I am alive again! It is amazing. I'm praying for you Kim that you have the power to resist those damn deamons! You are truly an angel in my eyes.  I just hope you can appreciate the impact you've had on my life and that God rewards you, I wish I could.

[hippy]

hey there, my name is michael, and i go to na meetings and have been going since 1976 i had 16 years clean then had to take pain meds. , i found this fourm and found my way to getting off the pain meds with the help here and the thomas's receip,
i now have 16 months clean.
my father is a aa member who has 37 years sober.

there are a nimber of people here who go to meetings, and a few
people who have been tio meetings but dont go anyu more.
i can under stand where they are coming from ther are a lot of poorly run meetings and unatractive to new commers,
i personaly love na meetings and most of the people in my life are na members.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hippy

[KimH]

Wannabeclean, I am so proud of you! Wow! almost time to change that name to bclean! I have missed you! Seriously, I was worried about you! It's good to hear from you! I would like to keep in touch after this closes. Are you going anywhere else? I have gone to drugabuse.com, Don't know if there are alot of serious people there. I know there are a few. Anyway I put my picture under sweetthang. It's under the topic picture, do you have any? I love pictures, It is fun to get a visual of who your talking too. It's more personal.
Jack, thank you again! Because you said "HOLY **** .....DO SOMETHING!" It scared me! I paniced and told my Dad! Thanks for the scare LOL. I'm starting to feel better. I am going to miss this so much! ALL Y'ALL ARE AWESOME!
Has anyone heard from doner? I am still worried about her! Where has she been? Doner if you see this please let me know you are OK! I have been where you are and am here if you need to talk! You know what? I am really starting to feel better. I don't think I could do that again! I may have to but i hope not! When my Dad took them, I cried like he was taking my best friend! Sickening huh? KIMH

[Sturgil]

I hate the fact this board will close due to lack of DR to monitor and respond. Please! I get better advice from my fellow addicts. You know my pain, you know my where I have been and what I going through because you were once in active addiction.

Now what to do? We all need a new home and fast. Thomas, dig deep my friend and give us some of your incredible wisdom!!!

I am posting my e-mail just in case we do find a new home. Thank you all for everything. The 4th of July will be 7 months clean from hydros and somas. The experience, strength and hope will lead us to a new home. Keep the faith!!!


God's Speed.

Sturgil Flockin
***@****

[MrsRat]

Sturgil, you will find a reply to you from Thomas on one of the threads up top.  He is an Admin on a forum I started with Suzneedshelp awhile back.  Everyone is welcome to come there and post with us.  He gave you the direct link to the Issues section of the forum where we do mostly serious posts, like in MedHelp.  I will put the URL to the main forum page in this post if you wanna go there too and see everything the forum offers.  We have many sections on different topics, pics section, caretakers section, and a link to the live chat if you are into that.  Hope to see you there soon. :)

MrsRat
http://pub177.ezboard.com/bpainaddictionwithdrawalhelpandsupport

[skipper]

mRS. Rat:
hey, i hope i'm still welcome over at your forum. this not having empoyment really put me in some wierd, unspeakable places. with med
help puling the plug, i'm going to have to shape up and be more accesable! i only hope i am still welcome. the only reasion i bring this up is i feel like kind of a ****-heal for turning  my back on
the opertunity your forum has always offered...
at any rate
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip

[MrsRat]

You better come see us in the forum Skipper!  You and Irish Rose are loved by all and we love it when you come post or chat with us.  Hope to see ya in here and in there soon!

[skipper]

mrs rattt:
you've just earned a couple extra "t" in my book!!! this is on the order of minding one's "p and q" (gee i hope some one can tell me what that means!!)

to quote the Townes VanZandt song " i will be there in the morning"
if all else fails you do have a sarpy county operative. he can be really frightening when he puts his saturn into it...i've been trying to reach him on the phone all evening...

at any rate i'm glad that all is forgiven...or at least overlooked!!
'YALL KEEP THE  ANGEL ON YOUR SHOULDER!!
(and never throw your dreams away)
kip and rose (in her tempory abcense)

[wannabclean]

I hope not to be spending as much time surfing these boards, but I sure would like to keep in touch and hopefully one day I can have an impact on someones life the way you have mine.  I do have some pics on disc I need to put on my PC.  Anyone that would like to can e-mail me @ ***@****, so I hope to hear from you and I can keep you posted on how I'm doing.  Good luck to everyone,
Formerly wannabclean
now known as amclean!

[jack daniels]

are you OK? is today better?...worred about ya...what's up..Jack

[lakelady]

Hi Skipper, Mind your P's and Q''s is an old english phrase,"Mind your  Pints(P) and Quarts(Q), told to the drunks in the bars, well at least thats what my hubby told me, He just heard that the other day. Hey You keep an angel on your shoulder......smile :), Debbie