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Help!!!! Back to norco detox!!!!! Please read...
Hi everyone! Ive been on this site plenty. First, to help me with my first detox coming off of norco last year. Also, to keep me sober throughout the next nine months. Anyway, for the last few mo. I've been taking norcos like crazy! Loved what it did to me again...but need to quit. I've been taking 10/325 (10-15) a day!!!! My last dose was 19hrs ago, and I feel bad. Question- Have a few suboxone, and plan to take one in 6hrs, so it will be 24hrs after my last pills. I havent really tappered any. Do I have to wait 24hrs for my first dose of sub.? Btw, has anyone ever thrown up during wd's from this amount? I have a terrible phobia of vomiting, and am deathly afraid of this. I didn't last time, but wasnt taking as many. Please give me some advice/encouragement!!! I need u all. Thanks for being my online friends! xox
everyone is different, most people have nausea. for me i puked up every meal for 3 days, the diarrhea is worse than the vomiting though, just drink plenty of fluids. god bless and dont take the subox.
Hi...my name is Leslie....I have had crontic pain for several years and was taking Norco...probably anywhere from 6 to 8 a day,,,,My liver enymes started rising so my doctor gave me Oxycodene 3 months ago...so I was taking the Oxy then in the afternoon I was taking 3 Norcos....A week ago I decided to detox completely from all pain meds. I have been successful. but not under doctors care while doing this....I have also reduced my intake of diet coke from 12-14 a day to 2....Amazingly my pain has been remarkable....but I am very depressed with no energy .....My family is giving me a hard time telling me that this is very dangerous....Does anyone have any knowledge about detoxing yourself....I have no desire at all for any of my pain meds....just so tired with no energy....I have a doctors appt next week and just had my blood work done....this is a on going appt that I have had for 6 weeks I go in for checkups regularly....I guess my question is...How long does this detox take and when will I get some energy back...and will I ever be normal again....Thanks ....Leslie
Hey Danielle!!!
Im so happy to hear you are doing well!!! See, this is a cake walk right??? Ok maybe not that easy... :-P
Sounds like you and your doc have a great relationship! Just dont lose sight of your goal of staying on the sub short term. Sub was designed to give you a mental reprieve and allow you to start thinking about the most important things in your life, not just the actions of being an addict. I applaud you for taking control of your recovery!!!
Just remember, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger... You have a great attitude, and outlook and thats 70% of this battle!
Nah, I never get lonely out here on the road. I actually live in Rockford, IL. Well, my mail goes there. :-) Im only home 10 days a month, but when I am home I enjoy every minute of it!
I have an awesome partner that has stuck with me through thick and thin. Im thrilled to hear you have a supporting husband to stand by your side and not judge. Getting off all the crap will make life so much better for the both of you.
With that said, Im gunna chug down my coffee, and head out the door. Working to Kuwait and back today. *Cringe* It was over 140F there three days ago. fun Fun FUN! :-P
I'll check back in with you when I get back to Germany. Again, you are doing absolutelly awesome!
Henry
Im so happy to hear you are doing well!!! See, this is a cake walk right??? Ok maybe not that easy... :-P
Sounds like you and your doc have a great relationship! Just dont lose sight of your goal of staying on the sub short term. Sub was designed to give you a mental reprieve and allow you to start thinking about the most important things in your life, not just the actions of being an addict. I applaud you for taking control of your recovery!!!
Just remember, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger... You have a great attitude, and outlook and thats 70% of this battle!
Nah, I never get lonely out here on the road. I actually live in Rockford, IL. Well, my mail goes there. :-) Im only home 10 days a month, but when I am home I enjoy every minute of it!
I have an awesome partner that has stuck with me through thick and thin. Im thrilled to hear you have a supporting husband to stand by your side and not judge. Getting off all the crap will make life so much better for the both of you.
With that said, Im gunna chug down my coffee, and head out the door. Working to Kuwait and back today. *Cringe* It was over 140F there three days ago. fun Fun FUN! :-P
I'll check back in with you when I get back to Germany. Again, you are doing absolutelly awesome!
Henry
Thank you so much Henry for your super informative post!!!! I feel better than I have in a long time. I'm starting to like myself again, and see my life as it is. I have a wonderful husband whom I trust and love. He knows all about my addiction, and about the demons in my past that have lead me here. We just bought a new home, and I'm doing what I love-keeping busy rehabing furniture, and painting. I feel real proud of myself for surrenduring to this new path. I haven't craved a pill in days, but am taking 4mg of suboxone once a day. It has helped me immensely. Although, some discomfort is present, I'm not in complete misery like I was. I was taking alot of norcos for a long time. I feel (as my doc does,) that it was a good choice to take the sub route. Sunday, I plan on going to 2mg...and, after about 2wks, jumping off. I just needed some time to get my head straight, and in the process, not be in horrible pain. Most importantly though, I'm keeping it real, feeling the guilt a bit, and taking it one hour at a time.
I so appreciate you writing to me, and hope to hear back soon! I'm also impressed with where you are at in your life. Just hearing about how much dedication you have towards others is inspiring, and really is the best cure. When your helping others your healing yourself! Do you ever get lonely?...living so far away I mean? I'm such a creature of habit, and have trouble with change... I'm trying my best to kick this habit, and that's all I can do. My constant faith is getting me through... and I feel blessed to have the support from you and the others on this forum. I'm currently seeing a psychiatrist, and have been for years. I have a very open relationship with her, and it seems to keep me aware. But, at the end of the day, I'm still with myself. She has said that I would really benefit from cognitive therapy due to my addiction issues, as well as issues I have from my past. I also live in Il (Chicago.) Can you suggest anyone that is in the Chicago-land area?
I hope you have a nice day, and a nice esspresso too!!! Talk soon-Danielle
I so appreciate you writing to me, and hope to hear back soon! I'm also impressed with where you are at in your life. Just hearing about how much dedication you have towards others is inspiring, and really is the best cure. When your helping others your healing yourself! Do you ever get lonely?...living so far away I mean? I'm such a creature of habit, and have trouble with change... I'm trying my best to kick this habit, and that's all I can do. My constant faith is getting me through... and I feel blessed to have the support from you and the others on this forum. I'm currently seeing a psychiatrist, and have been for years. I have a very open relationship with her, and it seems to keep me aware. But, at the end of the day, I'm still with myself. She has said that I would really benefit from cognitive therapy due to my addiction issues, as well as issues I have from my past. I also live in Il (Chicago.) Can you suggest anyone that is in the Chicago-land area?
I hope you have a nice day, and a nice esspresso too!!! Talk soon-Danielle
My name is Taylor, Im 24 years old and im on day 4 of my home Detox, I started with percocet 512 pills, Eating a few a day, after that I got into 5mg percs without the tylenol, After eating 5-10 a day and not getting my "fix" I started snorting them, Started with a half, half lead to a whole and here I am 9 months down the road snorting 7-10+ perc 30mg pills and eating whatever pills that didnt go up my nose without a burn. As I said im on day 4, and I will say this has got to be the hardest thing I have done, Especailly having to tell my family I have a issue, I was embarassed and ashamed to inform them that there son what an addict. So hard.. The first couple days ARE HELL but if you can get thru it youl be able to see the light at the end of the tunnel, I still have the burning in my stomach/craving to just crush one up and let her rip but I know if I dont il be back to square one.. If I can give any advice to anyone on here that has an addiction and wants to quit is you need to want it in your heart and soul, Do it for YOU and no one else keep focused as much as you can, surround yourself with family and friends.. The people suppling you are NOT your friends so youll have to stay clear from associating with them. I feel I have a very addictave personality and think If I can get thru 4 days then anyone can do it, You just need to stay focused and tell yourself you can get thru this. FIGHT FOR IT, YOU WILL feel back to normal soon. God bless all of you and thanks to whom made this website as this has helped me know that I can and will be the way I was prior to my addiction.
Also sorry for mispelled words and such my hands are a little shakey
Also sorry for mispelled words and such my hands are a little shakey
Hi, I was also taking 14 10/325's a day when I quit ct almost two years ago: My withdrawals for 9 days were really no big deal despite the large quantity I was taking for years(I did take a large quantity of temazepam every night for 9 days and slept every night during my 9 days of withdrawals) I was also able to go to work every day during my withdrawals because I was able to sleep.
I almost relapsed at least two or three times in the first few months, but I knew that if I ever went back to this stuff, I might never be able to quit again. You(and everyone else) can do this(just like I did), if you can decide once and for all that you do not want to be a drug addict for the rest of your life.
If I can do this, anyone can do this.Taking a large amount of pain pills should not scare anyone from trying to quit this stuff(ct or otherwise).
I almost relapsed at least two or three times in the first few months, but I knew that if I ever went back to this stuff, I might never be able to quit again. You(and everyone else) can do this(just like I did), if you can decide once and for all that you do not want to be a drug addict for the rest of your life.
If I can do this, anyone can do this.Taking a large amount of pain pills should not scare anyone from trying to quit this stuff(ct or otherwise).
Hi Danielle,
Im really happy to hear that your doc wrote you the script for the sub, that changes things substantially in itself.
You are so correct on it being different for everyone. And only you and your doctor can make the decision of what is right for YOU, and dont let anyone tell you different!!!
A lot of the negativity towards Suboxone/Subutex comes from those that were misinformed. Buprenorphine is an often misunderstood drug regarding is indications and mechanism of action. There are a lot of bitter patients on suboxone that were given poor information by their doctors, and told "You will have no withdrawals when coming off" Of course, I would be pissed to if I was told this, and then started feeling like crap!
There are also a lot of people that were put on suboxone after only having very small habits, and for short times. I even know one great lady that was unfortunatelly put on 16mgs of suboxone for a two vicodin a day habit that she had only had for SIX months!!!
Now I am no doctor (I just play one on tv) :-) But a lot of peoples frustrations are with the information that was given to them, or the complacency with starting people on an addictive medication treatment without even attempting other options. Toting Buprenorphine as a wonder drug that will "Cure" you.
The fact is, it can be a wonder drug! When it is prescribed under the right indications, the patient is induced on a proper and safe protocol, the dose is kept as low as possible while still being effective, the patient is aware of ALL of the advantages and disadvantages of starting this treatment, and the treatment is combined with cognitive behavior therapy or some sort of other support and counseling!
I have never regretted my suboxone treatment, it allowed me to get off that damn methadone...and halted my addictive behavior and gave me some time to just work on "Henry" While treatment can be expensive even with insurance, I would have paid obscene amounts more to have what I have today. No doubt!
I am greatful that I had this treatment available to me, and if ever feel at risk again, I would have no qualms about beginning buprenorphine treatment again if thats what it took to stay alive.
Try and stay on the lowest dose that takes away your wd's and cravings. Stick to your 6 week plan, and stay open with your doc. If towards the end, you still feel you are at risk for relapse, you and your doc can re-evaluate whether a longer term plan is in need.
Im happy to hear you are feeling better, and hope you can get some rest. BTW, what dosing schedule does your doctor have you on? How many milligrams, and how many times a day?
As far as my sobriety goes, I am doing great! I have had no cravings, or desires to go back, and I am only looking fwd from this point on. Due to my job, I partake in an Internet based aftercare program where I do online video counseling sessions 1 on 1 and group. Its an awesome program and covered by most insurance.
Which brings me to being overseas... I am an International Flight Attendant, I live in IL, but spend 18 days a month transporting our Soldiers to their deployments worldwide. Seeing how Germany is about half way between the US and the Middle East, I spend a lot of time here................and there. And, oh yeah..... over there too! :-)
Keep us posted, Im glad you are doing well!!! Will check in on you later.
Henry
Im really happy to hear that your doc wrote you the script for the sub, that changes things substantially in itself.
You are so correct on it being different for everyone. And only you and your doctor can make the decision of what is right for YOU, and dont let anyone tell you different!!!
A lot of the negativity towards Suboxone/Subutex comes from those that were misinformed. Buprenorphine is an often misunderstood drug regarding is indications and mechanism of action. There are a lot of bitter patients on suboxone that were given poor information by their doctors, and told "You will have no withdrawals when coming off" Of course, I would be pissed to if I was told this, and then started feeling like crap!
There are also a lot of people that were put on suboxone after only having very small habits, and for short times. I even know one great lady that was unfortunatelly put on 16mgs of suboxone for a two vicodin a day habit that she had only had for SIX months!!!
Now I am no doctor (I just play one on tv) :-) But a lot of peoples frustrations are with the information that was given to them, or the complacency with starting people on an addictive medication treatment without even attempting other options. Toting Buprenorphine as a wonder drug that will "Cure" you.
The fact is, it can be a wonder drug! When it is prescribed under the right indications, the patient is induced on a proper and safe protocol, the dose is kept as low as possible while still being effective, the patient is aware of ALL of the advantages and disadvantages of starting this treatment, and the treatment is combined with cognitive behavior therapy or some sort of other support and counseling!
I have never regretted my suboxone treatment, it allowed me to get off that damn methadone...and halted my addictive behavior and gave me some time to just work on "Henry" While treatment can be expensive even with insurance, I would have paid obscene amounts more to have what I have today. No doubt!
I am greatful that I had this treatment available to me, and if ever feel at risk again, I would have no qualms about beginning buprenorphine treatment again if thats what it took to stay alive.
Try and stay on the lowest dose that takes away your wd's and cravings. Stick to your 6 week plan, and stay open with your doc. If towards the end, you still feel you are at risk for relapse, you and your doc can re-evaluate whether a longer term plan is in need.
Im happy to hear you are feeling better, and hope you can get some rest. BTW, what dosing schedule does your doctor have you on? How many milligrams, and how many times a day?
As far as my sobriety goes, I am doing great! I have had no cravings, or desires to go back, and I am only looking fwd from this point on. Due to my job, I partake in an Internet based aftercare program where I do online video counseling sessions 1 on 1 and group. Its an awesome program and covered by most insurance.
Which brings me to being overseas... I am an International Flight Attendant, I live in IL, but spend 18 days a month transporting our Soldiers to their deployments worldwide. Seeing how Germany is about half way between the US and the Middle East, I spend a lot of time here................and there. And, oh yeah..... over there too! :-)
Keep us posted, Im glad you are doing well!!! Will check in on you later.
Henry
Henry, I love you.
I first want to clear up the sub issue, and the process in getting it. My doc gave me a script of 6 subs to try out. When I think of 6 pills, I sort of refer to them as samples...meaning, sampling them out. My mistake. So, the subs are legit, and 8mgs each. I did take one tonight because of pure misery. I've researched suboxone in length, and know what they are designed for, and am also aware of the wd's. Suboxone isn't intended to be a drug replacement for me, but a short-term program. If I in fact decide they work(and the do!!!) I was advised to be on a 6wk program. I intend to do so. I know that I should tough out the norco wd's and be done....and in theory it makes great sense. However, at this point I can not.
This, as you know, is a hard road to travel. I believe each one of us is different in our detox process. Whether it be a taper method, ct, or suboxone. You're so right about the mental acpect of it all. I also loved how you refered to our brains as being a "chemical storm!" No doubt about that.
So, I guess I'm taking one day at a time. I'm a healthy, 31yr old gal. I eat extremely well, hike on a daily basis, and know how to take care of myself. The norco became a poison to my body, and just wasn't an option for me any longer. I'm going to do my best to properly tapper off of the subs, and do it correctly. I don't expect this to be the a breeze. And, know I will have to eventually feel something.
I've heard so many good things about subs. I've had close friends complete the program successfully with little to no discomfort. This forum however feels that they are the worst option ever.
How are you doing with your sobriety? And, if you don't mind me asking, why are you over seas? I appreciate you reaching out to me more than you know. Please keep in touch as will I. I will let you know my progress-and probably have lots of questions for you soon!
Take care, and enjoy your day! I'm going to try and sleep.
European coffee is the best! cheers
Danielle
I first want to clear up the sub issue, and the process in getting it. My doc gave me a script of 6 subs to try out. When I think of 6 pills, I sort of refer to them as samples...meaning, sampling them out. My mistake. So, the subs are legit, and 8mgs each. I did take one tonight because of pure misery. I've researched suboxone in length, and know what they are designed for, and am also aware of the wd's. Suboxone isn't intended to be a drug replacement for me, but a short-term program. If I in fact decide they work(and the do!!!) I was advised to be on a 6wk program. I intend to do so. I know that I should tough out the norco wd's and be done....and in theory it makes great sense. However, at this point I can not.
This, as you know, is a hard road to travel. I believe each one of us is different in our detox process. Whether it be a taper method, ct, or suboxone. You're so right about the mental acpect of it all. I also loved how you refered to our brains as being a "chemical storm!" No doubt about that.
So, I guess I'm taking one day at a time. I'm a healthy, 31yr old gal. I eat extremely well, hike on a daily basis, and know how to take care of myself. The norco became a poison to my body, and just wasn't an option for me any longer. I'm going to do my best to properly tapper off of the subs, and do it correctly. I don't expect this to be the a breeze. And, know I will have to eventually feel something.
I've heard so many good things about subs. I've had close friends complete the program successfully with little to no discomfort. This forum however feels that they are the worst option ever.
How are you doing with your sobriety? And, if you don't mind me asking, why are you over seas? I appreciate you reaching out to me more than you know. Please keep in touch as will I. I will let you know my progress-and probably have lots of questions for you soon!
Take care, and enjoy your day! I'm going to try and sleep.
European coffee is the best! cheers
Danielle
Hey there!
So I just woke up, and found a message pointing me to this thread, so as I sit and have my morning coffee (European coffee is just out of this world) :-) I will try to give you whatever information I can.
First things first- The fears you are having are completely normal at this time, but they will do you no good during your detox! Detox from opiates is in itself not life threatening if you are in good overall health. There are VERY few reported incidents of fatalities during opiate detox, and all these people had serious illnesses mainly with their hearts or unregulated blood pressure.
During the withdrawal process, there is basically a chemical storm and struggle going on in our brains, which can cause the blood pressure to raise. Its basic autonomic nervous system response, and part of our "Fight or flight" mechanism. Your heart rate will elevate as well. For most of us we just feel a little speedy.
Since you are under a doctors care, I would assume that you would know if you have any heart conditions, or issues with blood pressure. If you do, then you may want to talk to your doc, if not... you will be uncomfortable, but opiate detox is relatively safe considering.
Your vike habit is actually pretty average. Not to minimize your problem at all, just wanted you to know that there are a lot of people that take around the same dosage. :-)
Onto the subs... At this time, I would really advise against this! I was on subs for 2 years, and while they were a lifesaver for me, it was a last resort measure. It literally came down to life or death. If you can not stay clean any other way on your own, then sub treatment may be for you. But I would really use this as a last ditch effort.
Suboxone was originally designed for long term maintenance. It wasnt until shortly after its release that it was realized it could be used for a short term detox. The rates of success on this are still questionable and are "Up in the air"
It is a controlled substance, and in my 8 years of medical experience, I have never seen controlls given as a sample. There were talks about Reckitt Benckiser the manufacturer of suboxone creating a "Detox pack" A blister pack of a certain number of pills on a card to be given for detox, but this never came about. Did the doc write you a script for the 6 pills? or did he give you the medication in the office. I am interested in more info on this.
The 6 subs that you have, I am assuming they are the 8mg tabs- To be honest, the sub detoxes I used helped the first few days until I started decreasing the dose and then the hell hit me.
The way suboxone works is to partially occupy your opiate receptors, and block other opiates. When this happens, it promotes regeneration of your own endorphin system (In other words your natural morphine) It takes some time for the full agonists (Your vikes) to fully leave those receptors, and to allow the sub to attatch for maximum effect. And the short amount of sub that you have will just not allow enough time for this to happen.
How are you feeling now? I know you mentioned that at 24hrs you are feeling ok, but then you said you were very uncomfortable. If discomfort is all you are experiencing, I would stick through this and forget about those subs! Sub withdrawal is uncomfortable +1, and is very long and drawn out with some unique symptoms atypical to other opiate detoxes. It took me well over 30 days for all the wd symptoms were gone, and still pushing two months later, I have a bad night or two here and there.
As for the nausea, I HEAR YOU!!!! I am terrified of vomiting! Here I am a 28 year old man, and I still call my mom before I puke (Moms are great arent they? lol) Nausea and vomiting are common during the wd period from opiates, but effects some and not others. If you had no vomiting from your first detox, you should be ok with this one.
One thing I can assure you is... If you continue your vike habit, you will certainly have more vomiting than you can imagine. Once all that tylenol starts to effect your liver and you start throwing up bile you will know what I mean. Lets not let it get to that point eh?
Keep posting here, the wd's may get worse, but within 5-7 days you will be feeling so much better. And you are already at 24hrs!!!!! Hang in there!
Henry
So I just woke up, and found a message pointing me to this thread, so as I sit and have my morning coffee (European coffee is just out of this world) :-) I will try to give you whatever information I can.
First things first- The fears you are having are completely normal at this time, but they will do you no good during your detox! Detox from opiates is in itself not life threatening if you are in good overall health. There are VERY few reported incidents of fatalities during opiate detox, and all these people had serious illnesses mainly with their hearts or unregulated blood pressure.
During the withdrawal process, there is basically a chemical storm and struggle going on in our brains, which can cause the blood pressure to raise. Its basic autonomic nervous system response, and part of our "Fight or flight" mechanism. Your heart rate will elevate as well. For most of us we just feel a little speedy.
Since you are under a doctors care, I would assume that you would know if you have any heart conditions, or issues with blood pressure. If you do, then you may want to talk to your doc, if not... you will be uncomfortable, but opiate detox is relatively safe considering.
Your vike habit is actually pretty average. Not to minimize your problem at all, just wanted you to know that there are a lot of people that take around the same dosage. :-)
Onto the subs... At this time, I would really advise against this! I was on subs for 2 years, and while they were a lifesaver for me, it was a last resort measure. It literally came down to life or death. If you can not stay clean any other way on your own, then sub treatment may be for you. But I would really use this as a last ditch effort.
Suboxone was originally designed for long term maintenance. It wasnt until shortly after its release that it was realized it could be used for a short term detox. The rates of success on this are still questionable and are "Up in the air"
It is a controlled substance, and in my 8 years of medical experience, I have never seen controlls given as a sample. There were talks about Reckitt Benckiser the manufacturer of suboxone creating a "Detox pack" A blister pack of a certain number of pills on a card to be given for detox, but this never came about. Did the doc write you a script for the 6 pills? or did he give you the medication in the office. I am interested in more info on this.
The 6 subs that you have, I am assuming they are the 8mg tabs- To be honest, the sub detoxes I used helped the first few days until I started decreasing the dose and then the hell hit me.
The way suboxone works is to partially occupy your opiate receptors, and block other opiates. When this happens, it promotes regeneration of your own endorphin system (In other words your natural morphine) It takes some time for the full agonists (Your vikes) to fully leave those receptors, and to allow the sub to attatch for maximum effect. And the short amount of sub that you have will just not allow enough time for this to happen.
How are you feeling now? I know you mentioned that at 24hrs you are feeling ok, but then you said you were very uncomfortable. If discomfort is all you are experiencing, I would stick through this and forget about those subs! Sub withdrawal is uncomfortable +1, and is very long and drawn out with some unique symptoms atypical to other opiate detoxes. It took me well over 30 days for all the wd symptoms were gone, and still pushing two months later, I have a bad night or two here and there.
As for the nausea, I HEAR YOU!!!! I am terrified of vomiting! Here I am a 28 year old man, and I still call my mom before I puke (Moms are great arent they? lol) Nausea and vomiting are common during the wd period from opiates, but effects some and not others. If you had no vomiting from your first detox, you should be ok with this one.
One thing I can assure you is... If you continue your vike habit, you will certainly have more vomiting than you can imagine. Once all that tylenol starts to effect your liver and you start throwing up bile you will know what I mean. Lets not let it get to that point eh?
Keep posting here, the wd's may get worse, but within 5-7 days you will be feeling so much better. And you are already at 24hrs!!!!! Hang in there!
Henry
Okay...I sent him a message. He's in Germany now so I'm sure he's sleeping..
You have 8mg sub...Did the doctor tell you to take the whole 8mgs.? Break it in half??
Let us know...
V.
You have 8mg sub...Did the doctor tell you to take the whole 8mgs.? Break it in half??
Let us know...
V.
I'm going to send a message to someone who can really talk to you about sub and the dose of Norco you've been on...I don't know if he's out of town but if he's near a computer,he'll post to you. A great guy...and very smart!!
V. xo
V. xo
I'm sorry I don't mean to scare you but just want you to exercise caution ! Any medication should never be stopped abruptly at a high dose . It should be monitored by a Physician . I remember my withdrawals and I was only taking 15 Norco a week ! So please see your doctor and be safe .. Jimmy
Hey Sweetie~ I'm not a sub expert,I just know a bit about it. I don't like it BUT it does have it's place. Just not for YOU,in my opinion. I don't even know what strength you have... What did the doctor say about when to take it? If you want to take it,follow his/her advice.
You will be okay...the first few days is hard. If you take the sub as he told you,you'll feel better but you'll have to taper off that and it's really hard. Make a good choice.
V. xo
You will be okay...the first few days is hard. If you take the sub as he told you,you'll feel better but you'll have to taper off that and it's really hard. Make a good choice.
V. xo
Vicki, I was hoping you would say that it isn't dangerous. It's been 23hrs since my last norco. can I take a sub? Will it work. I'm very uncomfortabe. Let me know pleasssse!!! And thanks for your thoughts!
I agree with IBK... If you get really uncomfortable, the doctor can prescribe clonidine.
It's just wrong to give out sub as samples. As far as dangerous to c/t from 100mgs: I don't think so. You'll feel crappy but you'll be okay...
Good luck whichever way you go~
V.
It's just wrong to give out sub as samples. As far as dangerous to c/t from 100mgs: I don't think so. You'll feel crappy but you'll be okay...
Good luck whichever way you go~
V.
You got samples of Suboxone from a doctor? I would question that in itself. That is not a medication the pharmaceutical companies give as samples. I would be leery as to where he got them. Just my two cents.
Since you are not feeling any withdrawal, if it were me, I would not take the Suboxone. If you stay on it 4 to 6 weeks you will have withdrawal from it.
If you are going to ween anything, I would choose the Norco. It is the easier of the two in my opinion. then you can jump at a lower dose, be done with the physical in a few days.
Best of luck whatever you choose.
Since you are not feeling any withdrawal, if it were me, I would not take the Suboxone. If you stay on it 4 to 6 weeks you will have withdrawal from it.
If you are going to ween anything, I would choose the Norco. It is the easier of the two in my opinion. then you can jump at a lower dose, be done with the physical in a few days.
Best of luck whatever you choose.
Thanks for your comments and support! I know I was taking alot of Norco's, but I havent taken one in 24hrs-and am feeling ok. Is it going to get worse? What do you mean exactly about "dangerous"! I'm scared to put myself in any danger. I did see a doctor, and he gave me a few 8mg sub samples, because I was already apprehensive. If I feel that it works ok, I plan to get a script. If only on subs for 4 to 6 wks-my doc said it is ok if properly weened off. Feelings?....
Hi and welcome back ! I agree with tramahater . That's a lot of Norco to be taking everyday and I think for your own safety you should get help . Your doctor would probably but you on a taper because stopping cold turkey at that amount could be dangerous . There is no shame in getting help . We are all in the same boat here and like you I am very grateful to have all my medhelp friends . Take care .. Jim
I had more nausea while ON drugs than during detox, but it is possible to have some nausea. Diarrhea is much more common I think. As far as the sub, I would stay away from it. I know that detox is not comfy, but it's unfortunately the only way to get free of this crap controlling your life! You really do need to be under a doctor's supervision to use the sub correctly. Keep posting, ok? You will get tons of support here!
Hi~ Okay...where did you get the sub. ????? Seriously now,you shouldn't take it. It will do nada for you; just stave off w/d for a few days. Then you have to withdraw from that. YUCK! And,you need to be sure it's been a good length of time since you took an opiate...just don't take it. There's a whole protocol for sub and you need a doctor to administer it.
I don't know about the vomitting. We're all different. Most have nausea,though. Just stop the stupid things,okay? You'll get a lot of support here...
Have you prepared for this detox? Hope so...Keep forcing fluids,try to eat,especially protein...
Keep in touch~
Vicki
I don't know about the vomitting. We're all different. Most have nausea,though. Just stop the stupid things,okay? You'll get a lot of support here...
Have you prepared for this detox? Hope so...Keep forcing fluids,try to eat,especially protein...
Keep in touch~
Vicki
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