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Help with Pain Pill withdrawals
Hello, I really need some advice...My husband has been hooked on Vicodin/ativan/Soma/Norco for the past 4 years...HE has finally decided he wants to quit...from what he says he has cut back to 1 x per day.....He is going throught the following withdrawal systems...Chills, body aches, vomiting, diariah,sweating.....How long does it take for this to pass???? Im trying to be supportive BUT it is very hard!!!! We have argued about this addiction for the past 3 years. I finall gave up on his problem in February of this year.....When he approached me with his intention to quit, I told him I would help him get through this...BUT it is very hard for me!!! Any advice on all of the above????
Thank you
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Thank you
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does anyone suffer from irritability due to suboxone? I need help. my husband is on suboxone and he is a wreck. although suboxone has helped him to get off of vicodin it seems to have created another problem. I thought about starting him on 5htp. any thoughts would be helpful.
i am very nervous about being in here..but i am 27 and i have 2 small kids.i had a teeth desiese that caused alot of pain and for almost 2 years i was on 750 of vicodin and percocet and i had my mouth taken care of but i found my self wanting and getting more vicodin and percocet and tylenol 3 i want to quit becuase of my kids but i feel like i will flip out and take it out on them.my husband has no clue only my friend and she is not able to help me go through this.i am on day 1and i have not had anything in almost 24 hours.I did have to take a 1/2 of xanax that i have been prescribed for the past 1 year and that helped calmed the edgy and mood down...what can i do .i only took 2 pills a day i usually took 1/2 in the am then 1/2 after lunch and then 1/2 about 2-3pm and then the other 1/2 later.i did not think i was addicited because i was off them for 2 weeks before and never had a problem but then after i ran out i discovered i was asking friends if they had any.and now i dont know..my legs hurt i am moody and all...please
beach -
sorry about that! for some reason I read the last line as you were saying "your wrong for saying that suboxone is a narcotic.
oopsie..sorry :)
sorry about that! for some reason I read the last line as you were saying "your wrong for saying that suboxone is a narcotic.
oopsie..sorry :)
If you are taking Sub you should know that you are still taking a narcotic... as the others explained above.. Taking Sub is similiar to taking methodone.. Its is either used for detox in a short time frame which is the best way or for replacement therapy.. It is a partial anogist which means it has properties of full agonist and antagonist like narcan... YOu really should do some research before praising a drug..
you can argue about the narcotic thing all day long but if you abuse sub,,stay on to long,,dont taper properly,etc. and your wds are gonna be bad,,just like narcotics
I'm missing your point please explain...........what i was wrong about...........
About SUBOXONE
SUBOXONE is the first opioid medication approved under DATA 2000 for the treatment of opioid dependence in an office-based setting. SUBOXONE also can be dispensed for take-home use, just as any other medicine for other medical conditions.
The primary active ingredient in SUBOXONE is buprenorphine.
Because buprenorphine is a partial opioid agonist, its opioid effects are limited compared with those produced by full opioid agonists, such as oxycodone or heroin. SUBOXONE also contains naloxone, an opioid antagonist.
The naloxone in SUBOXONE is there to discourage people from dissolving the tablet and injecting it. When SUBOXONE is placed under the tongue, as directed, very little naloxone reaches the bloodstream, so what the patient feels are the effects of the buprenorphine. However, if naloxone is injected, it can cause that person to quickly go into withdrawal.
SUBOXONE at the appropriate dose may be used to:
Suppress symptoms of opioid withdrawal
Decrease cravings for opioids
Reduce illicit opioid use
Block the effects of other opioids
Help patients stay in treatment
Your wrong about saying Suboxone is not a narcotic....................
SUBOXONE is the first opioid medication approved under DATA 2000 for the treatment of opioid dependence in an office-based setting. SUBOXONE also can be dispensed for take-home use, just as any other medicine for other medical conditions.
The primary active ingredient in SUBOXONE is buprenorphine.
Because buprenorphine is a partial opioid agonist, its opioid effects are limited compared with those produced by full opioid agonists, such as oxycodone or heroin. SUBOXONE also contains naloxone, an opioid antagonist.
The naloxone in SUBOXONE is there to discourage people from dissolving the tablet and injecting it. When SUBOXONE is placed under the tongue, as directed, very little naloxone reaches the bloodstream, so what the patient feels are the effects of the buprenorphine. However, if naloxone is injected, it can cause that person to quickly go into withdrawal.
SUBOXONE at the appropriate dose may be used to:
Suppress symptoms of opioid withdrawal
Decrease cravings for opioids
Reduce illicit opioid use
Block the effects of other opioids
Help patients stay in treatment
Your wrong about saying Suboxone is not a narcotic....................
Reread the 2nd line in your paragraph:
Suboxone is the first OPOID meaning OPIATE MEDICATION approved for opoid dependence in an OFFICE setting. Methadone is also an opoid, I believe, but not approved to be taken in an office setting, that I am aware of.
it is an opiate based medicine
sorry to disagree but I disagree :)
Suboxone is the first OPOID meaning OPIATE MEDICATION approved for opoid dependence in an OFFICE setting. Methadone is also an opoid, I believe, but not approved to be taken in an office setting, that I am aware of.
it is an opiate based medicine
sorry to disagree but I disagree :)
Hey, I'm on AND IT IS A NARCOTIC--IN THE STRONGEST CATEGORY. It is an opiate 40x stronger than morphine, but you do not get high from it. It adheres to the opiate receptors (b/c it is an opiate) and blocks all other opiates from adhering so it's a waste to take any opiates while suboxone is still in your system. It will not get you high.
When you come off suboxone they taper you b/c there is w/d just like any other opiate, except that it is not as intense as all the other opiates that get u high. It's an easier softer detox.
When you come off suboxone they taper you b/c there is w/d just like any other opiate, except that it is not as intense as all the other opiates that get u high. It's an easier softer detox.
Run, do not walk to the computer and look up suboxone. What an amazing thing it is. It is a pill you put under your tongue and it completely gets rid of the craving, shaking, nausea, diarrhea, ALL signs and symptoms of detox. I found a doctor, he saw me and I quit the next day, NO - NONE of the horrendous detox. UNBELIEVABLE!!!! Forget about that other ****....this is new and amazing, and done in conjunction with a 12 step program and counseling, well by golly he will have his life back. I got my life back in a matter oif days and I was taking 480 oxycodone a month and 240 morphine pills every day for 4 years straight.
I swear by this stuff.
Good luck, Amy
I swear by this stuff.
Good luck, Amy
Suboxone is NOT a narcotic. It acts like a narc by attaching itself to the narcotic receptor site. Eventually suboxone replaces all the narcotic on the receptor and you are then narcotic free. My doc gave me 120 pills and instructions and I have detoxed myself with my support system around me. I am so excited for so many addicts who will understand that in the year 2007 it's high time something like this was found and it really works. It not only kicks tushie on withdrawal, it stablizies mood and provides pain relief which is great for me because I was on oxy and morph for chronic pain. It is doing a nice job with my pain, and I am as clear headed as I was prior to walking into pain management years ago where I was told you will need these narcotics and fentyl for the rest of your life. NO THANKS!
Suboxone is great for what it is designed but it was never designed for addicts to treat themselves....
Detox is very scary and W/Ds from certain drugs can be dangerous.........
Mental Health has tons of federal money for people to go into professional detox establishments to get off drugs..........
Do some homework and if you don't have insurance you may have to wait up to 8 weeks to get in.....
Insured people and people with cash will get the beds first but you will get in and I tell you it will be worth the 1-8 week wait........
Professional people including doctors, nurses and addiction counselors are there for you to help you......
Most cities have this available it is not advertized you have to do your homework and research.......
Help is there you just have to do your research.........
This is the best way to get off drugs by far..........and the most human..........
Detox is very scary and W/Ds from certain drugs can be dangerous.........
Mental Health has tons of federal money for people to go into professional detox establishments to get off drugs..........
Do some homework and if you don't have insurance you may have to wait up to 8 weeks to get in.....
Insured people and people with cash will get the beds first but you will get in and I tell you it will be worth the 1-8 week wait........
Professional people including doctors, nurses and addiction counselors are there for you to help you......
Most cities have this available it is not advertized you have to do your homework and research.......
Help is there you just have to do your research.........
This is the best way to get off drugs by far..........and the most human..........
go to suboxone.com
this is a controlled drug too and an opiate... it's just one that sooo very hard to abuse.... I'm an abuser, (black belt) and I can't abuse this stuff!!!!!!!! Look into to it! also there is a website called, naabt.org that deals exclusively with this drug get him there!
Suboxone is a replacement drug that works!
this is a controlled drug too and an opiate... it's just one that sooo very hard to abuse.... I'm an abuser, (black belt) and I can't abuse this stuff!!!!!!!! Look into to it! also there is a website called, naabt.org that deals exclusively with this drug get him there!
Suboxone is a replacement drug that works!
I don't think it's wise to quit all of these at one time. I'd start on the one I've been on the longest first, as the other meds will help with it...then work my way down on the others...EXCEPT PLS. DO NOT let him quit Ativan without weening himself very slowly, or under a doctor's care (he doesn't have to go to his family doctor, as I know people are ashamed -- go to a stranger doc and pay cash for the visit - this way it wont even be on records). I've witnessed someone seemingly fine one minute and falling over blue in the face the next from quitting Ativan cold turkey - they had to be hospitalized. It's scarey stuff.
For Vicodin withdrawl, be sure to keep a good supply of Imodium (found over the counter) AND I read in previous posts to take a supplement called "5 HTP" - take 50 mgs. If you tolerate that take 100mgs the next day. I'm thinking of trying this supplement myself, as it is said to be good for fibromyalgia and other problems too.Try benadryl for insomnia. If he does go see a doc, they can give him other non addictive meds to help him through this. I would estimate a week's time for the worst part of withdrawl on vics to be over and am not sure on the others, but the emotional part goes on for a little longer and people can get very miserable. Be supportive, but do not accept any abusive behavior. You are in this together and you will both come out on the other side stronger, happier and healthier. God Bless, and Congratulations to your husband on his decision to quit!
For Vicodin withdrawl, be sure to keep a good supply of Imodium (found over the counter) AND I read in previous posts to take a supplement called "5 HTP" - take 50 mgs. If you tolerate that take 100mgs the next day. I'm thinking of trying this supplement myself, as it is said to be good for fibromyalgia and other problems too.Try benadryl for insomnia. If he does go see a doc, they can give him other non addictive meds to help him through this. I would estimate a week's time for the worst part of withdrawl on vics to be over and am not sure on the others, but the emotional part goes on for a little longer and people can get very miserable. Be supportive, but do not accept any abusive behavior. You are in this together and you will both come out on the other side stronger, happier and healthier. God Bless, and Congratulations to your husband on his decision to quit!
He should be careful quitting the Ativan, cutting back too quickly or going c/t can cause serious medical problems. Like seizure, coma and death, that med should be tapered slowly and with a Dr's supervision. All benzo's are dangerous to quit if you've been on them for long period's of time. As far as the rest, I agree with FLaddict, either do a slow taper or go it c/t and get it over with, he is experiencing all the w/d that going c/t would produce anyway. Good luck to you both!!
Peace,
Gypsy
Peace,
Gypsy
Gypsey is right.. ativan cannot be quit cold turkey and MUST be tapered very very slowly.. cutting a quarter a pill every two weeks.. under a doctors supervision..
Can he go to treatment that will detox him?? That would be best..
Can he go to treatment that will detox him?? That would be best..
That kind of a taper is too fast and he will suffer as much as if he quit cold turkey.. He either needs to cut out one pill per week or just quit cold turkey..
HEY!!! Just wanted to tell you that you are not alone and whatever you do don't give up on your husband!!! I am in the opposite situation-I am the addict, not my husband. Unfortunately he is not alot of help so I WISH I had someone to help me like you are trying to!! Please please don't stop!!
All symptoms are completely normal!! This is my Day 6...the first 1-4 were the worst!!! Very sick-diarrhea, aching, chills,etc....all that should pass (well for the most part) by Day 6....usually but everyone is different-but the worst part of withdrawl is now!!!! Day 6 today is minor....ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!!
All symptoms are completely normal!! This is my Day 6...the first 1-4 were the worst!!! Very sick-diarrhea, aching, chills,etc....all that should pass (well for the most part) by Day 6....usually but everyone is different-but the worst part of withdrawl is now!!!! Day 6 today is minor....ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!!
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