comming off 8mg of sub is going to feel like getting hit by a train....this drug needs to be tapered down to a low low dose where not aloud to give dosing ifo or taper plans but we have had success storys at 2mg and jhumping this is a funny drug some come off at 2mg with little side effects othes take it to crumbs and suffer for 2 weeks you just wont know till you try what ever you do dont jump from 8........Gnarly