How to quite hydrocodone/vicodin??? HELP!

[MCTX09]

Hello all.  I am new to this so any suggestions, tips, tricks or helpful ideas would be very, very much appreciated.  Just as a little background for anyone reading this, I am 25 and have a very addictive personality and so does my wife.  I was one of those kids that used the "gateway" drug marijuana when I was young.  It eventually led my wife and I to do bigger and badder things....  crystal meth.  My wife and I have since kicked that addiction, however hard it was, and the few short-term relapses I had but we are done which I guess you could say is a huge accomplishment, considering how few people ever really get off such an evil and addictive drug like crystal meth.  When I met my wife, she was addicted to dilaudid (I think that's how you spell it) real bad.  I was able to get her off of them and her and I were clean for a while.  She then went to a doctor and came home one day with a prescription for 180 10mg Hydrocodone (blue footballs).  I, growing up had never taken any type of pill as weird as that sounds but this was the beginning.  WE starting taking these one at a time, which slowly over the past 8 years has led to taking 9-13 a day for me and as much as 19-22 a day for her.  She does not work so she has nothing to do all day but take these things, and I pretty much "have" to take these to make myself get up and go to work every day.  I have put myself in such financial trouble taking out loans just to buy pills.  I will buy any pain pill I can find no matter how much it costs.  I at times have gone and spent more than $390 at one time for pills.  We have taken any and every pill I can find and afford.  I cannot continue living my life like this.  I today have taken the last pill I want to take and I am looking for some guidance or tips as I begin this long hard journey.  Today is Saturday and all I can think about right now is how I am going to go to work on Monday without any pills......  I do not have health insurance so I cannot check into any kind of rehab program.  The bad thing about this is, I have to get myself off of them so I can then start working on getting my wife off of them.  I look forward to hearing anything anyone can tell me to help with this goal.  I want to be clean, I want to feel as like I CAN get up and do something without these things.  I want to feel happy because I AM happy, not because I the 3 pills I just took have kicked in.  Hopefully someone who has been in my shoes will read this and has some very encouraging words or methods used to kick this psychological and physical dependency.  Thank you.

[tim772]

Is suboxene supposed to be a way to get off pills without W/D's.  You are saying you got addicted to these.  Didn't know that was possible. Six months ago a friend had some and we were talking.  He gave me 5 to start.  I took one a day and then nothing.  I had no withdraws what so ever.  I went for 23 days.  My pain was back and Dr. called a refill.  Been on them ever since.  I dont buzz off of them It just relieves the pain so I can function.  I have another friend that takes methadone on a regular basis.  I can only imagine his withdraws.  I am afraid if I stop the pain won't.  My problem is I take 3 four times a day instead of 1 four times a day.
Thanks feelingblu as I said before this is a great site.

[feelingblue222]

I am on day 4 but my w/ds are not as bad.  I got off Suboxene in sept.  I was clean for 43 days.  Felt so good I thought I could handle using again.  I screwed around with oxys for about 2 1/2 months, relapse its called.  During that time I had about 3 weeks where I didnt use.  The last 3 weeks prior to me stoppping were begining to get out of hand so I nipped it in the bud.  I have been beating myself up pretty good about relapsing though.  When I stopped Sub I went to my Dr,  he gave me Chlonodine whic is a blood pressure med and commonly used for w/ds.  It helped alot.  Takes away the freezing and sweating.  He also gave me some benzos which also helped.  I have never taked benzo b4 but you need to watch out for those as they can become habit forming and are apparently a ***** to get off of.  If you take it over a two week period which I did you should not have a problem.  If you have a good Dr. and you share with him your situation they might be willing to perscribe those meds to help.  

[tim772]

I did see your other post and than you.  I see you have quite a few postings.  How long for you.  Thanks for the words.  I can't believe this site it is great.  I can talk and not fell worthless and ashamed.  I will stay here for a long time.  Its like an AA meeting on line.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL. WE WILL KICK IT TOGETHER.  I LOVE THIS SITE.

[feelingblue222]

What you are doing now is the best thing you can do for your family and children.  Eat lots of Bannanas for your legs and get hylands restlesss leg stuff from your pharmacy.  Immodium works the best for the stomach and the runs.  Drink lots of fluids, water not soda.  Do not give in.  I wrote to you on an earlier post aswell.  Look at the bottom right hand side of the forum page for the Thomas Recipe and Amino Acid Protocol.  You will find helpful sugestions there.  The w/ds you are feeling will last for another few days but they will subside.  You will wake up one day and feel great.  Keep posting on this site.  There are lots of people who will be on this site later that will have even more helpful info and suggestions and offer tremedous support.  People who have detoxed from far greater amounts than you will help.  Stay at it.  You are doing great and you should be proud of yourself for what you are doing.

[tim772]

I have a 12 per day habit of hydro.  I have even purchased of the street as well when perscript runs out.  My wife calls me a pill head.  I guess she just doesn't understand. I have run out and refuse to by on the street anymore.  I use them for chronic neck and back pain.  I am trying the cold turkey method and its been hell.  I am able to be off of work for a few days.(thank god) I am at the end of day three and feel better. I can tell you the exact hour 75.5 hrs. The exercise and hot bath has helped. Other than that it's been Ib. tums and pepto.  My oldest is home from college and I felt like **** because we were supposed to do something together and I couldn't. I lied and told him I was sick from something. Then last night I was on the couch trying to sleep and I guess I started to have bad tremors.  I scared the hell out of my two youngest and they went to seek out my wife.  I noticed what had happened a caught him before he got to her.  After that I buried my head in the pillow and cried quietly.  I cant believe I was doing this to my family.  I hope this is the time to stop completely.  Hats off for going to work, I would not be able to make it.  I hope the rest of my life goes as slow as the three days has gone so far, I have tears building up even as I write.  This site is a god send and I'm glad I'm not the only one out there going through this.
Good luck it suckssss and is very hard.  Hot baths or showers help a lot.

[struggling_college_student]

Hey buddy just read your original post.  Is there any possibility of sick time at work??  If not and you cant bear going cold turkey and work I would prolly taper.......but u said you had no money so I guess that wont work...sorry.  But I am on day 5 of a 10 norc a day habit.  Quit cold turkey.  All the suggestions above were great but I saw no one mentioned Hylands Restful Legs(Walgreens for about 5-6 bucks)  It has worked WONDERS for my RLS at night.  Other than that the baths, amino acids, and a sleep aid worked for me.  Congrats on your decision to stop putting poison in your body.  I have noticed everyone here cares for one another and that also helps.  I am definetly on this board about 30 times a day!!!  Take care and im praying for you!!