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Kicking Oxy/Hydros with Zubsolve
Today was day 1 without oxy or hydro. Finally got sick and tired of being a slave to the pill. Thousands of dollars, countless hours hunting for a score, and thousands of miles driven to go get the pills. You'd think my son being born would be motivation enough... I was popping 200mg of IR oxy every day we were in the damn hospital... Pathetic.
Started out with a nasty lower back injury. Got Rx'ed 10mg hydros. You know the rest of the story. Got mixed up with oxy and dilauid. Taken about everything under the sun by now. Never IV'ed, though came extremely close at times. Daily usage consists of 200+ mg of oxy, typically 30mg IR via oral ROA. Every oxy dose topped off with 30-50mg hydro for a total of 100+ mg hydro a day.
So a good friend and fellow addict with a similar story as mine has recently been 1 week clean via Zubsolve. He swore by it, so I bought 10. I've taken 3 today just to stay well. Also caved in and bought tramadol and have also taken it because I'm a ******* and found out it can still be abused while on suboxone/Zub. Feeling pretty worthless atm. Got 3 80mg oxy staring at me. Only reason I haven't taken them is because it would be a waste of $ with the Zub in my system.
Just trying to be a part of this awesome community instead of lurking like I have been for the past 6 months. Always trying to use the stories from fellow members as motivation but the outcome is always relapse. Today was the first day w/o oxy/hydros in 3+ years but not much of an accomplishment when I've still taken 16mg of Zub and 300mg of tramadol.
Sigh. Got the Thomas Recipe bookmarked. Looks like good stuff and seems to work well from what I've read. If you've kicked the habit and are reading this, good for you. Don't go back. It's not worth it.
Started out with a nasty lower back injury. Got Rx'ed 10mg hydros. You know the rest of the story. Got mixed up with oxy and dilauid. Taken about everything under the sun by now. Never IV'ed, though came extremely close at times. Daily usage consists of 200+ mg of oxy, typically 30mg IR via oral ROA. Every oxy dose topped off with 30-50mg hydro for a total of 100+ mg hydro a day.
So a good friend and fellow addict with a similar story as mine has recently been 1 week clean via Zubsolve. He swore by it, so I bought 10. I've taken 3 today just to stay well. Also caved in and bought tramadol and have also taken it because I'm a ******* and found out it can still be abused while on suboxone/Zub. Feeling pretty worthless atm. Got 3 80mg oxy staring at me. Only reason I haven't taken them is because it would be a waste of $ with the Zub in my system.
Just trying to be a part of this awesome community instead of lurking like I have been for the past 6 months. Always trying to use the stories from fellow members as motivation but the outcome is always relapse. Today was the first day w/o oxy/hydros in 3+ years but not much of an accomplishment when I've still taken 16mg of Zub and 300mg of tramadol.
Sigh. Got the Thomas Recipe bookmarked. Looks like good stuff and seems to work well from what I've read. If you've kicked the habit and are reading this, good for you. Don't go back. It's not worth it.
Bro i feel your pain i am on day 5 of withdrawing from Zubsolv. They are minty little devils man. I'm weak as **** keep fighting and trudging forward. Honestly man you have to feel the pain to know what you've done to yourself for all this time. Everyone wants an easy way out when they destroyed themselves family finances etc... I always say FEEL THE PAIN so you know you're alive. Afterall all of us that take these pills are fighting off more than Physical pain. Yes people blindly get dependent off of something physical but what keeps us on is the ADDICTIVE qualities we have. I too have a very successful business luckily it practically runs itself. That was my biggest thing is i wanted to be set up so when i am ready to be free of all this crap AGAIN for the 3rd time its my last strike. I can't keep doing this to myself and neither can you!!! Just know that i'm here for you man. Laters
Good for you! I agree with Krissy no Xanax and no Valium! I was taking magnisium and calcium with vit d for RLS. It also helps with sleep. You got this and we are here for you!
When you feel you can not go another minute post on here and someone will be there to get you back on track!
Remember take one second, one minute, one day at a time!
When you feel you can not go another minute post on here and someone will be there to get you back on track!
Remember take one second, one minute, one day at a time!
Honestly I'm glad you can't get the Xanax and Valium. I think it's so stupid that they're even in the Thomas recipe. Why give an addict a very addictive benzo to w/d with?? There is melatonin you can get for sleep. I'd stay away from Benadryl or ingredients like that. It can make your rls way worse and keep you wider awake. Immodium helps great when the time comes you'll need it after the subs are all gone. Drink lots and lots of fluids. You work out so you probably no a healthy diet to will help. I know you won't be hungry but try to eat a little. Bananas help with the rls to. Full of potassium.
It means a lot to have you guys in my corner. It's the first real accountability I've had. Today is day 2, even though I've already taken the Zub crap. Yesterday and today are the first 2 days in 3+ years that I haven't been loaded from start to end. I've started collecting things for the Thomas Recipe, but can't seem to find any Valium or Xanax. Probably just going to sub in Tylenol PM. You guys are right, just needed someone to tell me I guess. There's never going to be a good time and putting it off any longer just feels like a deathwish. You'd think looking at my newborn son would be motivation enough but I'm seriously THAT stupid and continued down the path towards oblivion. Well.. 2 days down, but with the help of the Zub. Hopefully it will have helped when I quit everything CT in 2 more days. This is the only chance I've got to get clean by myself. Hopefully I don't F it up!
Will there ever be a "good time"? No there is NEVER a good time for any thing! This is important for you and your family! First think out yourself then your family. Don't you and them deserve the best? What do you do when you get the flu? think of it like having a bad flu for 3-7 days....after that most of the WD will be over then you can start your new life!
We are in your corner and you can do this!
Think of all the money you will save! Put that money away that you were using for pills and do some thing special for you and your family! The time will fly by and you will be enjoying the new you!
We are in your corner and you can do this!
Think of all the money you will save! Put that money away that you were using for pills and do some thing special for you and your family! The time will fly by and you will be enjoying the new you!
You are a full time student, spend a lot of time searching for drugs, and run a business that is successful enough to give your family $1,400 a week in "extra" income! $1,400 a week Is my family income. You know that you are not accomplishing this because of drugs but in spite of them. Illnesses, emergencies, and family deaths happen unexpectedly to people all the time, forcing them to suddenly drop everything for a while. Why should this be any different? This is an emergency. Put your number one employee in charge and do what you Really have to do to keep your life together. Get sick, embrace it, and thank God for giving you the sense to do it before all is lost, especially that beautiful young family.
it will be impossible to keep doing what your doing and keep your life together in future , it is unsustainable, (feeding addiction) its as simple as that!
"keep it simple" good saying, find courage, stop drug intake, be sick, start recovery, attain peace & happiness! it can be done , ppl do it every day.
sometimes the journey takes a couple of longer roads but persistance [ays off.
For me it took losin everything, moving to another state recieving a felony Dui (cuz i thought i could "just" drink as long as no drugs)losin alot again , 6 month prison treatment, out of mandatory 13 month sentence with 5 years felony probation, drug/dui court which i have been in for 13 months and am graduating soon(scary) , but it was all part of the journey to freedom and was the best thing that could of ever happend to me, i am happy and feeling life now.
"keep it simple" good saying, find courage, stop drug intake, be sick, start recovery, attain peace & happiness! it can be done , ppl do it every day.
sometimes the journey takes a couple of longer roads but persistance [ays off.
For me it took losin everything, moving to another state recieving a felony Dui (cuz i thought i could "just" drink as long as no drugs)losin alot again , 6 month prison treatment, out of mandatory 13 month sentence with 5 years felony probation, drug/dui court which i have been in for 13 months and am graduating soon(scary) , but it was all part of the journey to freedom and was the best thing that could of ever happend to me, i am happy and feeling life now.
I know it's hard to c/t. Especially with work. I don't go to school but I have a full time job and I have two kids. So I know how you feel. Dose your wife work? Or do you pay everything? I was lucky because my husband has a good so I could take the time off to c/t,but if you have to one to pick up the slack I can see where the stress comes in.
Yeah you're right. It seems like the Zub is just a trade off. The plan was to take the supplement for 5 days, and then quit everything. In theory, those 5 days off the oxy would help with the worst of the withdrawals. She does care, she just doesn't want to believe I have an issue. Her Dad was also an alcoholic and her mom is a huge stoner, so substance abuse is just another "thing" for her. Which is ironic because my family is extremely conservative and would try to pay for and throw me in rehab if they knew how bad it's gotten. I want to quit CT but I'm a full time student and run a business. Not being able to function for 7-10 days just isn't an option for atleast another month 1/2, when the semester ends.
Oh I thought I commented on this? You need to ditch the zubsolv if you want to quit. You're just prolonging your w/d's man. Cut it all off now and get through the week of hell...then get yourself into a aftercare program. Cuz especially at them high doses the anxiety and deppression will kickin hard. We are left with major mindfuck after we quit the drugs. So aftercare is esentail to staying cleaning. I almost caved at a month cuz I thought I was loosing it. I sit through AA meetings cuz that's what helps me. It's the oxy I'm addicted to though not booze. But whatever works right. You're so young get out now. And ya your wife should be caring more than about your finances? Right up?
Just took the FOURTH Zubsolve of the day to fend of withdrawals... Starts with a ton of cold sweats, followed by horrible muscle aches and the strongest cravings for anything in my entire life. Truly a slave to this stuff. So ready to get my life back. To be able to look myself in the eye again instead of avoiding the mirror. I don't want that pill-priority schedule anymore. It's truly a nightmare.
No, you're not really reading it wrong. She does worry a great deal about my health but she chooses to be willfully ignorant towards that aspect. The health thing is more of a drawn out ordeal and financial problems are more "here and now" but I make decent money so we have a nice place, our child is taken care of, and she doesn't go without. That in itself is part of the problem. Bills get paid and spare money gets blown all month long. Honestly I want to delete all the contacts from my phone but the thought of it scares the **** out of me... It shouldn't, because more than anything I want to get clean.
Well you can quit if you really want to! I was addicted to Norco, tramadol, vic and any thing I could get my hands on for over 10 years. I went CT with the help of this site and followed the Thomas Recipe but only the over the counter stuff. I was sick for about 3-5 days then the mental kicks in. I was almost a year clean when I fell off my horse and fractured my spine and pelvis. I am now 31 day CT.
You have to cut off all your ties to getting any. That is the most important part not being able to get them. If you need someone to talk or vent to I am here. Also everyone on this site are here for you and saved my life! Let me know what you want to do.
One thing I want to mention is the fact that your wife is ok with it kinda bothers me......she is only concerned about it cutting into your finances", she should be worried about you and your health and getting you healthy just my opinion! I could be reading into this wrong but that is the way I read it....
You have to cut off all your ties to getting any. That is the most important part not being able to get them. If you need someone to talk or vent to I am here. Also everyone on this site are here for you and saved my life! Let me know what you want to do.
One thing I want to mention is the fact that your wife is ok with it kinda bothers me......she is only concerned about it cutting into your finances", she should be worried about you and your health and getting you healthy just my opinion! I could be reading into this wrong but that is the way I read it....
Zubsolve is basically a generic suboxone. It's given to heroin and oxy addicts as a means to wean off the narcotics. It itself is a narcotic. It works to knock opiates off the opiate receptors and blocks any opiates from binding to said receptors for 24-48 hours yada yada yada.
Man.. More than anything I want to stop. It's just got me by the balls. I'm 23, hit the gym 5 times a week, support the family as the sole breadwinner and still manage a 200$/day opiate addiction. Sad part is it's completely hidden from my family and friends. Everyone on Facebook and family gatherings think I'm the best father and run a successful business... If only they knew... My wife knows. She says she doesn't really care but if it cut into our finances, she wouldn't be happy at all with me.
Man.. More than anything I want to stop. It's just got me by the balls. I'm 23, hit the gym 5 times a week, support the family as the sole breadwinner and still manage a 200$/day opiate addiction. Sad part is it's completely hidden from my family and friends. Everyone on Facebook and family gatherings think I'm the best father and run a successful business... If only they knew... My wife knows. She says she doesn't really care but if it cut into our finances, she wouldn't be happy at all with me.
Hello and Welcome.
First off do you want to stop? Stay away from the tramadol! Those are nasty little devils, they have an anti depressant in them and are very hard to WD from.
So I guess my question would be what are you wanting to do?
I do not know any thing about Zubsolve but I sure someone on here does and could tell you about them.
Let us know what you are trying to do and we can help you more.
First off do you want to stop? Stay away from the tramadol! Those are nasty little devils, they have an anti depressant in them and are very hard to WD from.
So I guess my question would be what are you wanting to do?
I do not know any thing about Zubsolve but I sure someone on here does and could tell you about them.
Let us know what you are trying to do and we can help you more.
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