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LOIS AND CLARK NEED YOUR HELP ASAP!!! OXY WITHDRAWL FROM HELL!!!
We're back...worse then ever... my hubby and I are now up to 25O to 300 mg each maybe less maybe more...usually more depending onthe day ... we tried to go cold turkey 5 times now since our last post... does any one have any ideas what home remedies can help? We've been reading other posts and sympathize and realate to sooo many of you tortured souls
The restless leg syndrome is a killer... I could cut off my legs when that happens.... the nightmares, cold sweats, bodily functions that have gone haywire!!!!
my husband has more will power then me.... which forces me to try to fix myself and him for the benefit of our 2 btfl boys... they are 4 and 5 and full of life
Does Ativan Zoloft Clonazepan or Seroquel and Zopicclone help???
PLEAE HELP ANY INPUT WOULD BEA LIFE SEND!!!!
Lois and Clark ;-(
The restless leg syndrome is a killer... I could cut off my legs when that happens.... the nightmares, cold sweats, bodily functions that have gone haywire!!!!
my husband has more will power then me.... which forces me to try to fix myself and him for the benefit of our 2 btfl boys... they are 4 and 5 and full of life
Does Ativan Zoloft Clonazepan or Seroquel and Zopicclone help???
PLEAE HELP ANY INPUT WOULD BEA LIFE SEND!!!!
Lois and Clark ;-(
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HI you 2 welcome back ....wish it where under better terms but it is what it is...your use is up there this is not going to be pleasant but attitude makes the diference between suffering threw it or just dealing with being uncomfortable keep in mind this is 1/3 physical and 2/3 mental and I truly believe it is a battle one or lost in ones own mind so go into this think ready to fight on both fronts its often the physical part that scares us the most but it is the mental part that brings us to our knees you 2 have a fight in front of you but it beats the alterntive jail institution or death and at 300+ a day your walking on a tight rope of life right now it time to end the madness you have been given great advise buy a lot of people with a yr or more clean we know what where talking about this is nothing a good hot soak cant releave enough to get by YOU GUYS CAN DO THIS where here for support come back and join the living
recovery is a great place once you find it .....its going to take some work your going to be sick for a week but in the end you wont be chained to a pill bottle.....dont know if you believe in God or not but if you do prayer is a powerful tool if you do you will need everything you can get to break this habit but it is breakable we have had members do it b/4 so good luck to you keep posting and God bless.......Gnarly
recovery is a great place once you find it .....its going to take some work your going to be sick for a week but in the end you wont be chained to a pill bottle.....dont know if you believe in God or not but if you do prayer is a powerful tool if you do you will need everything you can get to break this habit but it is breakable we have had members do it b/4 so good luck to you keep posting and God bless.......Gnarly
It's true - a lot of this is easier said than done - but I promise you once you get moving and try some of the suggestions given you'll both begin to feel a little better.
Try hot showers or baths with epsom salts - a good brisk walk - eating something and remembering to stay hydrated. Remind yourself (every second if you have to) that what you're doing is the BEST thing for both you and your partner. Probably the best thing you've done for yourselves in a while (at least it was that way for me).
I found the more I resisted the withdrawal, and feared the symptoms, the worse it was. Gnarly (one of our wisest members here) said you have to be okay with NOT being okay for a while. And it's so so true.
Have you tried the supplements and/or vitamins suggested in the thomas recipe or the amino acid protocol? They helped me so much - I'll admit it wasn't so noticeable those first few days, but in time I found them to be a g-dsend (stuff like fish oil tablets, b12 sublingual tablets (for energy), valerian root for the anxiety, melatonin for sleep and immodium AD for the stomach issues).
And actually - read unmanageable's posts again - she gave a TON of great advice and a lot of specific things you can do to help ease the withdrawal.
Let us know what you've tried and I'm sure everyone here can help you through.
Try hot showers or baths with epsom salts - a good brisk walk - eating something and remembering to stay hydrated. Remind yourself (every second if you have to) that what you're doing is the BEST thing for both you and your partner. Probably the best thing you've done for yourselves in a while (at least it was that way for me).
I found the more I resisted the withdrawal, and feared the symptoms, the worse it was. Gnarly (one of our wisest members here) said you have to be okay with NOT being okay for a while. And it's so so true.
Have you tried the supplements and/or vitamins suggested in the thomas recipe or the amino acid protocol? They helped me so much - I'll admit it wasn't so noticeable those first few days, but in time I found them to be a g-dsend (stuff like fish oil tablets, b12 sublingual tablets (for energy), valerian root for the anxiety, melatonin for sleep and immodium AD for the stomach issues).
And actually - read unmanageable's posts again - she gave a TON of great advice and a lot of specific things you can do to help ease the withdrawal.
Let us know what you've tried and I'm sure everyone here can help you through.
Ok, what symptoms bother you the most? Everyone has something different that drives them NUTS! :) There are otc things to get. Is that what you're talking about?
all in all everything is easier said than done we all know it takes alot of will power especially at that moment when everything possible is hurting you and you feel its the end of the world.................WE truly appreciate all the advise but the bottom line is we have to suck it in and learn to LIVE again this has plagued our lives long enough and we need our control back.................cold turkey is way to hard so my good people what can we do to ease the simptoms?
Lois and Clark
Lois and Clark
You know something, I agree with this.....
The thing about keeping the house clean and orderly. Keeping clean clothes handy to change into after a sweatfest. Clean smelling lotions and soaps and shampoo always, ALWAYS made me feel better. Even if it was only for a few minutes, it felt good! Any kind of bath stuff that smells good is a great idea too. I had to make myself do it sometimes, but it was worth it! Just muster up the energy, and go for it! You'll be glad you did!
The thing about keeping the house clean and orderly. Keeping clean clothes handy to change into after a sweatfest. Clean smelling lotions and soaps and shampoo always, ALWAYS made me feel better. Even if it was only for a few minutes, it felt good! Any kind of bath stuff that smells good is a great idea too. I had to make myself do it sometimes, but it was worth it! Just muster up the energy, and go for it! You'll be glad you did!
I forgot to add that asking the universe or GOD or whatever you believe in...sincerely praying to have the symptoms removed actually works.
I have been changing my sheets daily and keeping house clean. Chaos around you will make your detox way worse. Find quiet. Wash your hair with something that smells amazing. Use heavenly lotions on your skin! It all helps you stay in the game.
WANT TO BE SOBER with everything you have. Be willing to do whatever it takes because sobriety comes first.
We suffer from an illness that is fatal if not treated daily. You can do this !!
I have been changing my sheets daily and keeping house clean. Chaos around you will make your detox way worse. Find quiet. Wash your hair with something that smells amazing. Use heavenly lotions on your skin! It all helps you stay in the game.
WANT TO BE SOBER with everything you have. Be willing to do whatever it takes because sobriety comes first.
We suffer from an illness that is fatal if not treated daily. You can do this !!
Wow I know what you mean. I am in day 6 after heavy Norco 10/325 addition. I read a lot on here and noticed it was making the anxiety worse. Much of withdrawal is centered in the mind. I remember one time I found a single pill when I was in w/d and all my symptoms went away before i even ingested it.
I never forgot that. I am staying calm and being a witness to my thoughts. When they get off track I bring it back to strength and hope. I am trying to be very kind to myself.
I am going to be honest here. I used neurontin for sleep and nerve pain. Banana twice a day.
Extra potassium, multiple vitamin, amino acid supplements all in LIQUID form max absorption. I have been exfoliating with both a dry mitten (available at most drug stores) and scrub in the shower. Always end shower with cold water. If you can turn hot then cold several times all the better. We detox through the skin, lungs and tongue. Brush tongue with hydrogen perooxide ( totally safe to gargle with too, a custom in Switzarland). Tongue is coated and white right? Scrub that stuff off and detox will go faster.
Finally, eat mostly raw foods and make fruit smoothies with almond milk. DAIRY IS OUT. It is like drinking or eating glue. It gunks up the elimination process. Go to gym and get in the sauna. Take cold shower and then go back in. It's ok to get chills in the heat. You are moving toxins out through your skin. Do stretches for RLS (yoga is preferred). Go to Chiro if you can.
The crap is stored in our muscles and large intestine so if you can afford a colonic do it after a mostly liquid diet of fresh fruit and vegetable juice. It comes out bright yellow when we eliminate from colon. Take colon cleanse with banana and a big glass of water. Swim in a pool to releive muscle pain. Have to move the muscles to get out the bad stuff.
Good luck! Remember: "don't let anyone take your joy, not even you" choose happiness despite your challenges.
I never forgot that. I am staying calm and being a witness to my thoughts. When they get off track I bring it back to strength and hope. I am trying to be very kind to myself.
I am going to be honest here. I used neurontin for sleep and nerve pain. Banana twice a day.
Extra potassium, multiple vitamin, amino acid supplements all in LIQUID form max absorption. I have been exfoliating with both a dry mitten (available at most drug stores) and scrub in the shower. Always end shower with cold water. If you can turn hot then cold several times all the better. We detox through the skin, lungs and tongue. Brush tongue with hydrogen perooxide ( totally safe to gargle with too, a custom in Switzarland). Tongue is coated and white right? Scrub that stuff off and detox will go faster.
Finally, eat mostly raw foods and make fruit smoothies with almond milk. DAIRY IS OUT. It is like drinking or eating glue. It gunks up the elimination process. Go to gym and get in the sauna. Take cold shower and then go back in. It's ok to get chills in the heat. You are moving toxins out through your skin. Do stretches for RLS (yoga is preferred). Go to Chiro if you can.
The crap is stored in our muscles and large intestine so if you can afford a colonic do it after a mostly liquid diet of fresh fruit and vegetable juice. It comes out bright yellow when we eliminate from colon. Take colon cleanse with banana and a big glass of water. Swim in a pool to releive muscle pain. Have to move the muscles to get out the bad stuff.
Good luck! Remember: "don't let anyone take your joy, not even you" choose happiness despite your challenges.
Have you taken Seroquel before? I'd really stay away from that one...It will make you drowsy but you may not feel well after taking it. Plus,it's an antipsychotic...
Have either of you tried counseling, NA or AA or an addictionologist?
Your way isn't working so you have to try something NEW this time. Like vicki said, what are you going to do differently this time? And I agree with everyone - starting any other addictive med is only asking for trouble. The biggest part of getting clean is finding a new way to live your life - and not relying on meds to get you through.
You sound like you both want it badly enough - so take the help wherever it's available. You do NOT have to live like this anymore.
Your way isn't working so you have to try something NEW this time. Like vicki said, what are you going to do differently this time? And I agree with everyone - starting any other addictive med is only asking for trouble. The biggest part of getting clean is finding a new way to live your life - and not relying on meds to get you through.
You sound like you both want it badly enough - so take the help wherever it's available. You do NOT have to live like this anymore.
Sounds like you guys really NEED to get clean this time! You're going to die and orphan those boys if you don't quit.
Get some imodium. Take it every four hours or whatever the package says. it helps a multitude of symptoms. I'd stay away from that other stuff. Too addicting. You don't wanna exchange one habit for another.....or few! Definitely force fluids and eat bland stuff. I drank lots of apple juice and gatorade. They have tons of potassium in them. Hyland's Leg Cramps helped my legs not kill me....plus hot baths. Those help a bunch! : )
Good luck! DO IT this time, ok?
Get some imodium. Take it every four hours or whatever the package says. it helps a multitude of symptoms. I'd stay away from that other stuff. Too addicting. You don't wanna exchange one habit for another.....or few! Definitely force fluids and eat bland stuff. I drank lots of apple juice and gatorade. They have tons of potassium in them. Hyland's Leg Cramps helped my legs not kill me....plus hot baths. Those help a bunch! : )
Good luck! DO IT this time, ok?
Hi- Except for the Zoloft, those are some strong meds so be careful.
Okay...Force fluids. THE most important thing. Be sure to eat;especially protein. Get some Hylands Restful Legs at Walmart/Walgreens. Take vitamins and minerals!
What can you do differently this time so you don't have to keep going through this???
Keep in touch!
Okay...Force fluids. THE most important thing. Be sure to eat;especially protein. Get some Hylands Restful Legs at Walmart/Walgreens. Take vitamins and minerals!
What can you do differently this time so you don't have to keep going through this???
Keep in touch!
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