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Methadone Withdrwal Horror
My boyfriend has been heavily addicted to vike ES * somas for over 15 years. He was then presccribed methadone for pain. After he adjusted to the methadone at about 40mg, he started abusing them. He grAdually went up and up and up to sometime over a whopping 300mg methdone daily. Hes been on the 'done for 3-4 years now. He'll take as much as he can, throughout 3-4 times a day, to 300+mg (day).
Not only that. He resumed his vike es haBit also, to about 10 pills day.
Hes run out of EVERYTHING for now and tho he tapered down over about a week, he is feeling simultaneously hot and cold, his leg shakes sometimes, he's just sick sick. Any air conditioning feels like it's minus 100degrees. Then he gets hot.
He tried the done clinic and they did not believe him or care and they put him on only 20mg mdone day. He was absolutely furious going thru wd's and the 20 mg did nothing. But that was a year ago. He's going cold turkey now, absolutely refuses treatment, because of his privacy.
Actually, from what I read here, his seems the most extreme of all, and, oddly, IMO, he's not doing as bad as I read others are.
Please help. As I said he refuses treatment for 15-20 years. I know he won't. He is also out of all benzos to even take the edge off.
One more thing: he said the 'done wd are so much easier on his stomach than the vike wd's.
Not only that. He resumed his vike es haBit also, to about 10 pills day.
Hes run out of EVERYTHING for now and tho he tapered down over about a week, he is feeling simultaneously hot and cold, his leg shakes sometimes, he's just sick sick. Any air conditioning feels like it's minus 100degrees. Then he gets hot.
He tried the done clinic and they did not believe him or care and they put him on only 20mg mdone day. He was absolutely furious going thru wd's and the 20 mg did nothing. But that was a year ago. He's going cold turkey now, absolutely refuses treatment, because of his privacy.
Actually, from what I read here, his seems the most extreme of all, and, oddly, IMO, he's not doing as bad as I read others are.
Please help. As I said he refuses treatment for 15-20 years. I know he won't. He is also out of all benzos to even take the edge off.
One more thing: he said the 'done wd are so much easier on his stomach than the vike wd's.
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I wish you the best of luck C.....Check in once in awhile and let us know how you are doing~~~~~~~sara
Hi g,
li
Lsten, thks for your help. When he read the whole thread he felt that it was just too much. Anyway, he seems to have been jolted by the freakishness and severe wd pain he went through. He is on correct dose, and while it's somewhat uncomfortable it's
nothing like before. He actually put me in control of
giving correct.
He called a friend about a meeting and he- we - are going starting the next one.
These are huge, pleasant, sensible steps.
I am delighted for him - and me.
I learned a lot too from this.
Don't know if or when I'll post again but want to thank
you and others for your support - you helped him/us get thru the darkest days.
God bless you all. Goodbye.
C.
li
Lsten, thks for your help. When he read the whole thread he felt that it was just too much. Anyway, he seems to have been jolted by the freakishness and severe wd pain he went through. He is on correct dose, and while it's somewhat uncomfortable it's
nothing like before. He actually put me in control of
giving correct.
He called a friend about a meeting and he- we - are going starting the next one.
These are huge, pleasant, sensible steps.
I am delighted for him - and me.
I learned a lot too from this.
Don't know if or when I'll post again but want to thank
you and others for your support - you helped him/us get thru the darkest days.
God bless you all. Goodbye.
C.
Thanks gnarley. I will show him your post bcz I don't think he'll understand that u control yr pain with OTC meds. Congratulations to you.
He said something about pain receptors burnt out...???
Ckmarilyn: he is curious about subox but said it could get him stuck on it.
Could you explain and share your subox experience? Isn't there wd's if you stop that after you get on it? He said there are good things about what he read about subox. Maybe - maybe he won't be closed minded.
Looking for your subexon experience.
Thks
C.
He said something about pain receptors burnt out...???
Ckmarilyn: he is curious about subox but said it could get him stuck on it.
Could you explain and share your subox experience? Isn't there wd's if you stop that after you get on it? He said there are good things about what he read about subox. Maybe - maybe he won't be closed minded.
Looking for your subexon experience.
Thks
C.
HI you can live with chronic pain narcotic free...many of us here suffer with some sort of ingery or pain issues what you need to understand is that narcotics can actually make the pain worst it did for me and many others here...also your brain will create the pain to get the narcotic....its a viscous cycle but once broke you will find like many of us that your pain can actually be managed pritty well with otc stuff...I have 2 herniated disks and 3 more deteriorating ...after tryng every conceivable pill witch I both used and abused
they put me on methadone...it worked for a wile but eventually my tolerance went up and I went from 30mg to 150mg over a 6 1/2 yr period then even at that high of dose it quit working for pain control...I was left with a huge addition and in pain...once I finely flushed everything out of my system got past the rebound pain my pain clock sorta reset itself...I still have pain but it is very manageable with 800mg ibuprfine .....please tell your B/F that as long as I was on the narcotics that stuff would never work so I understand his consirn but im not alone with my experience there are lots of us on this forum that have had similar experience...if you truly are ready to give up the narcotics you can...you must be ready to give up the high also...methadone dosent get you high persay ...but it does leave you in sorta a quite fog that you dont relize till your off of it..in high doses I can tell you it will also get you high...I have been high on it it is a narcotic and like all narcotics it is abusable I hope this helps clear up a few questions for you if you have any others feel free to post them I will do my best to get you a answer if I dont know one myself good luck and God bless....Gnarly
they put me on methadone...it worked for a wile but eventually my tolerance went up and I went from 30mg to 150mg over a 6 1/2 yr period then even at that high of dose it quit working for pain control...I was left with a huge addition and in pain...once I finely flushed everything out of my system got past the rebound pain my pain clock sorta reset itself...I still have pain but it is very manageable with 800mg ibuprfine .....please tell your B/F that as long as I was on the narcotics that stuff would never work so I understand his consirn but im not alone with my experience there are lots of us on this forum that have had similar experience...if you truly are ready to give up the narcotics you can...you must be ready to give up the high also...methadone dosent get you high persay ...but it does leave you in sorta a quite fog that you dont relize till your off of it..in high doses I can tell you it will also get you high...I have been high on it it is a narcotic and like all narcotics it is abusable I hope this helps clear up a few questions for you if you have any others feel free to post them I will do my best to get you a answer if I dont know one myself good luck and God bless....Gnarly
Firstly I thank you for your support while helping my bf, Martin, during the severe wd's.
Second, he asked me to thank you too. He is very very embarrased that I asked for help bcz of his situation. As I said, he is quiet, independent (ha) and would just not talk to anyone. I'm glad I could.
He is so appreciative that he's feeling normal - he (and I) slept so well last night. He's eating normal and his back/leg pain handled.
I know (or think) he learned from this and is reducing already. But it's the future he must take care of -- and I want to stay with him. He's just so sweet in every possible way (except the problem). He is a gentle man, sweet, kind, bright, etc. Nobodys perfect. Just when you think you met the perfect man..... But I too have my own issues. Becz of my work (actress/musician) I'm often traveling to ny and ca. especially, and I'm not there for
him though we speak, email, txt, etc.
So life goes on.
I again thank you all for your help, love, support, info, confidentiality, nonjudgment, and
kindness.
Best to you.
C.
Second, he asked me to thank you too. He is very very embarrased that I asked for help bcz of his situation. As I said, he is quiet, independent (ha) and would just not talk to anyone. I'm glad I could.
He is so appreciative that he's feeling normal - he (and I) slept so well last night. He's eating normal and his back/leg pain handled.
I know (or think) he learned from this and is reducing already. But it's the future he must take care of -- and I want to stay with him. He's just so sweet in every possible way (except the problem). He is a gentle man, sweet, kind, bright, etc. Nobodys perfect. Just when you think you met the perfect man..... But I too have my own issues. Becz of my work (actress/musician) I'm often traveling to ny and ca. especially, and I'm not there for
him though we speak, email, txt, etc.
So life goes on.
I again thank you all for your help, love, support, info, confidentiality, nonjudgment, and
kindness.
Best to you.
C.
Thks gnarly for post.
Ok, here's the real problem: he has extreme injury. If he even had the willpower to stop the meds, how is it even possible to live with pain?
I'm exhausted. He is too, but compared to the wd's, tiredness is nothing.
Also, even if he chose to go to rehab, how to pay w no insurance?
Ok thks.
C
Ok, here's the real problem: he has extreme injury. If he even had the willpower to stop the meds, how is it even possible to live with pain?
I'm exhausted. He is too, but compared to the wd's, tiredness is nothing.
Also, even if he chose to go to rehab, how to pay w no insurance?
Ok thks.
C
HI well it sounds like he got some methadone in his system...im happy he is no longer suffering ...I hope someday he will realize that there is life after methadone...and takes the proper steps to break free from his addictions ...methadone only puts a temporary hold on your addiction...it is ment to be used in conjunction with aftercare to build up a foundation
so that in the future you can be drug free...I hope he learns that the pills are only a symptom of the addiction and not the cause ...threw aftercare you can get to the root of why we use drugs in the first place for some it is self medicating a underling illness for others it is escaping a horable past...but until your ready to face the real demons in your life a pill is a disillusion to fix a deeper problem...im glad the our community was able to help you threw this difficult time...stick around here...and gain knowledge about addiction and recovery... information is empowering and you will learn how to help him help himself good luck and my god bless the 2 of you abundantly.....Gnarly
so that in the future you can be drug free...I hope he learns that the pills are only a symptom of the addiction and not the cause ...threw aftercare you can get to the root of why we use drugs in the first place for some it is self medicating a underling illness for others it is escaping a horable past...but until your ready to face the real demons in your life a pill is a disillusion to fix a deeper problem...im glad the our community was able to help you threw this difficult time...stick around here...and gain knowledge about addiction and recovery... information is empowering and you will learn how to help him help himself good luck and my god bless the 2 of you abundantly.....Gnarly
Well thank God he's beginning to feel better. Thank God Thank God. Thank God.
ALL his widrwl symptoms are lessening and leaving as I write!!
Those sick sick chills and sweat heat are GONE.
HIS leg is almost completely still.
He is finally beginning to feel NORMAL.
THANK GOD.
And, he has NOT taken vikes, somas, or benzo
Perhaps he learned from this - he NEVER wants to go thru this again.
Listen, THANK YOU ALL who wrote, read, prayed, cared, gave advice, didn't judge, and helped me to help him get through this.
I really don't know what he'll do next, but he is so relieved to feel normal. That is a great victory for us now, today.
Please write. Thks
I'll respond
Blessings and prayers right back at you,
Love and thanks,
Christeven
ALL his widrwl symptoms are lessening and leaving as I write!!
Those sick sick chills and sweat heat are GONE.
HIS leg is almost completely still.
He is finally beginning to feel NORMAL.
THANK GOD.
And, he has NOT taken vikes, somas, or benzo
Perhaps he learned from this - he NEVER wants to go thru this again.
Listen, THANK YOU ALL who wrote, read, prayed, cared, gave advice, didn't judge, and helped me to help him get through this.
I really don't know what he'll do next, but he is so relieved to feel normal. That is a great victory for us now, today.
Please write. Thks
I'll respond
Blessings and prayers right back at you,
Love and thanks,
Christeven
HI well its good he went to the doctor they can give him some stuff to help the withdrawals
the kicker here is unless it time to get the methadone refiled they wont be able to help him with that...you cant get it refiled early...it is a highly controlled substance and not many doctors can write scripts for it
in the state of withdrawal he in its going to be hard to hide it from a doctor...most doctors wont give out scripts for narcotics if they see your in acute withdrawal they realize you have a problem with it and will often offer some stuff to eaze the stomach problems and clonidine to help with the withdrawal symptoms so its really had to say what if anything there going to do to help him again most good doctors will recommend a detox center or rehab....I wish you luck let us know what happens at the doctors
keep posting for support...and like it or not your not in withdrawals and stuck wide awake your going to need to get some sleep here to be of any help at all so at least try to get a nap in here or there a good nights sleep would be best but your not going to be able to keep up with methadone induced insomnia ....you need to take care of you so you can help him but you need your batterys recharged to...good luck and God bless......Gnarly
the kicker here is unless it time to get the methadone refiled they wont be able to help him with that...you cant get it refiled early...it is a highly controlled substance and not many doctors can write scripts for it
in the state of withdrawal he in its going to be hard to hide it from a doctor...most doctors wont give out scripts for narcotics if they see your in acute withdrawal they realize you have a problem with it and will often offer some stuff to eaze the stomach problems and clonidine to help with the withdrawal symptoms so its really had to say what if anything there going to do to help him again most good doctors will recommend a detox center or rehab....I wish you luck let us know what happens at the doctors
keep posting for support...and like it or not your not in withdrawals and stuck wide awake your going to need to get some sleep here to be of any help at all so at least try to get a nap in here or there a good nights sleep would be best but your not going to be able to keep up with methadone induced insomnia ....you need to take care of you so you can help him but you need your batterys recharged to...good luck and God bless......Gnarly
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I was VERY set in my ways and stubborn as a bull and i decided i just couldnt live this way anymore. Hopefully he will change his thinking too. There is always hope C. Make sure you are taking care of yourself too.........sara
He's waiting. Still in office.
Won't even consider rehab, detx or treatment.
Very set in his ways.
Which makes me wonder how or if he'll ever quit.
He won't.
C
Won't even consider rehab, detx or treatment.
Very set in his ways.
Which makes me wonder how or if he'll ever quit.
He won't.
C
Thks.
Hes at dr waiting. Freezing. Leg shaking. Brave soul trapped in that severe habit.
I won't leave him - he's been my heart for many yrs. He's so purehearted. It is ironical for such a sweetheart to be so addicted.
I think bcz he is so sensitive and pained.
Well, I know that's why.
Thk yu.
Will write
Hes at dr waiting. Freezing. Leg shaking. Brave soul trapped in that severe habit.
I won't leave him - he's been my heart for many yrs. He's so purehearted. It is ironical for such a sweetheart to be so addicted.
I think bcz he is so sensitive and pained.
Well, I know that's why.
Thk yu.
Will write
Hey hows it going now.?? from you last post it sounds like he is getting into acute withdrawals...has he been able to still hold food down?? thats usually the next stage
that and a million trips to the bathroom....go out and pic up the highlands restful leg stuff
this morning it helps a lot of people it is homeopathic so you dont have to worrie about taking to much...also imodium helps with the runs again about all you can do here is treat the symptoms as best you can....you being there for him is priceless my wife was there for me and it is so helpful to have someone there that cares...a trip to the E/R can go several different ways...most will try and put him in rehab...some will give narcotics to eaz the withdrawal ...most will prescribe a blood pressure med called clonadine...it helps with a lot of the symptoms right now about all you can do is tuff it out...I got some running to do ill be back to check on you a bit later good luck and God bless....Gnarly
that and a million trips to the bathroom....go out and pic up the highlands restful leg stuff
this morning it helps a lot of people it is homeopathic so you dont have to worrie about taking to much...also imodium helps with the runs again about all you can do here is treat the symptoms as best you can....you being there for him is priceless my wife was there for me and it is so helpful to have someone there that cares...a trip to the E/R can go several different ways...most will try and put him in rehab...some will give narcotics to eaz the withdrawal ...most will prescribe a blood pressure med called clonadine...it helps with a lot of the symptoms right now about all you can do is tuff it out...I got some running to do ill be back to check on you a bit later good luck and God bless....Gnarly
I hope he does get to a doctor and maybe he'll be convinced to detox in a hospital setting. I have no personal experience with methadone, but from what I've read on here, the wds are horrific and take so long to get over.
You're great for sticking by him. I stuck by my ex-husband for a long time. It is exhausting at times; so I hope you'll find time to take care of yourself as well as him.
Gnarly seems to be the expert here. And I hope you can convince your BF to follow his suggestions. He's been there.
Hoping to hear soon that you took him to a doctor and that he's okay. It's really hard to watch someone you love detoxing. Best of luck to you both.
You're great for sticking by him. I stuck by my ex-husband for a long time. It is exhausting at times; so I hope you'll find time to take care of yourself as well as him.
Gnarly seems to be the expert here. And I hope you can convince your BF to follow his suggestions. He's been there.
Hoping to hear soon that you took him to a doctor and that he's okay. It's really hard to watch someone you love detoxing. Best of luck to you both.
730Am. He's really bad. Freezing cold constant chills. E hausted - we both are.
He can't tolerte this. He's going to dr in pm.
I clearly see why you are so obviously against ct for him.
He's so sick - first time in 3-4 yrs.
Unbearable. Continuous leg and at times arm, neck shaking. He said it seems to be some natural way for the body the distribute energy or blood to cellular structure. The shaking is like shaking a drink or mix to distribute flow.
Later
thk u.
He can't tolerte this. He's going to dr in pm.
I clearly see why you are so obviously against ct for him.
He's so sick - first time in 3-4 yrs.
Unbearable. Continuous leg and at times arm, neck shaking. He said it seems to be some natural way for the body the distribute energy or blood to cellular structure. The shaking is like shaking a drink or mix to distribute flow.
Later
thk u.
HI and thank you for the complement....after being an addict living in active addiction to one thing or another most of my life...and then to narcotics for 16 1/2 yrs I guess you could say God has given me a heart for the addict ...I can truly simpasize with those trapped in the darkened world of addiction I know all to well....I handle most of the methadone posts because I have experienced long term use as well as endured a long 8 1/2mo taper off it and have made a successful recovery from it...it pains me to see people struggle with this demon...and I can relate to the fears and frustrations that addicts go thew.....I also try to shed some of Gods light on it wile I do it...I make no bones about it
I couldn't have done it without Gods grace...he gave me the strength to get threw it when it seamed hopeless ...now im pashanet about helping others find there way out of this mess and will do anything I can to help someone who wants to help themselves but don't no how....methadone hands down is one of the worst addictions to have to break....I have been down this road with others and know the struggles but I have made a commitment to God to help guide others out of this...im not here to shove God down anyone's throat but rather show his love to others threw compassion and understanding... I dont believe in judging people for the situation there in...but rather lend a helping hand and friendship when one is needed I am just one part of a much bigger thing here the forum community is made up of a lot of people with a heart of gold...we have been there and as a community we work together to help out in an area that seams hopeless to those trapped in it ...im glad you found you way here and hope we all can make a difference in your life ....as for the hot and cold thing its pritty much a given...if you can get him to take a hot soak in the tub it will do more then any one thing to help with the chills as well as the creepy crawly feeling...will help with the legs to dont under estimate this therapy....I would love to stay up with you but I have commitments in the morning and its getting late....I will check on you guys in the morning ....if you believe in God try praying for strength...your both going to need it to get thew this...its a little slow at night but keep posting someone will come along I will see you in the morning good luck and God bless.......Gnarly
I couldn't have done it without Gods grace...he gave me the strength to get threw it when it seamed hopeless ...now im pashanet about helping others find there way out of this mess and will do anything I can to help someone who wants to help themselves but don't no how....methadone hands down is one of the worst addictions to have to break....I have been down this road with others and know the struggles but I have made a commitment to God to help guide others out of this...im not here to shove God down anyone's throat but rather show his love to others threw compassion and understanding... I dont believe in judging people for the situation there in...but rather lend a helping hand and friendship when one is needed I am just one part of a much bigger thing here the forum community is made up of a lot of people with a heart of gold...we have been there and as a community we work together to help out in an area that seams hopeless to those trapped in it ...im glad you found you way here and hope we all can make a difference in your life ....as for the hot and cold thing its pritty much a given...if you can get him to take a hot soak in the tub it will do more then any one thing to help with the chills as well as the creepy crawly feeling...will help with the legs to dont under estimate this therapy....I would love to stay up with you but I have commitments in the morning and its getting late....I will check on you guys in the morning ....if you believe in God try praying for strength...your both going to need it to get thew this...its a little slow at night but keep posting someone will come along I will see you in the morning good luck and God bless.......Gnarly
Thks again for commenting - my, you certainly are attentive, concerned, caring, compassionate. And knowledgeable and experienced. O
I guess you are a grateful servant who experiences greatest peace and grace when you are helping others. Just curious - is this your full time thing? I observed your gold stars for a zillion responses.
Ibuprophen, huh. Vitamins... I think if I suggest that to him he'll just give me a "sneer" and tell me something like, "...yeah, babe, your advice to get pain relief is weaker than carrot juice and 12 step..." Or similar. Yet- it works for you.
He's just leg shaking continually and suffering from ct. Freaking. Not complaining. His leg hurts. Back hurts. Insides hurt. He's freezing. It's like 90 degrees and he's wearing sweats and blankets. Then he sweats and rips it off and then gets cold again in a few minutes.
That's no life.
Oh - he wants me/ gotta go. Write.
I guess you are a grateful servant who experiences greatest peace and grace when you are helping others. Just curious - is this your full time thing? I observed your gold stars for a zillion responses.
Ibuprophen, huh. Vitamins... I think if I suggest that to him he'll just give me a "sneer" and tell me something like, "...yeah, babe, your advice to get pain relief is weaker than carrot juice and 12 step..." Or similar. Yet- it works for you.
He's just leg shaking continually and suffering from ct. Freaking. Not complaining. His leg hurts. Back hurts. Insides hurt. He's freezing. It's like 90 degrees and he's wearing sweats and blankets. Then he sweats and rips it off and then gets cold again in a few minutes.
That's no life.
Oh - he wants me/ gotta go. Write.
HI well its good on one hand he is out of everything....you can make it without narcotics
with sever pain...I suffer 2 herniated disks and 3 deteriorating...once your off the narcotics for a wile your pain clock sorta resets itself and things that dident use to work actually work...I was prescribed methadone for pain control after using and abusing every conceivable pill out there...my use on it went the same way it did on the pain pills
I started out at 30mg a day and wound up at 150ml a day and it quit working all together for pain it was brutal to get off of but in the end it is so so worth it...tell your B/F not to fear the withdrawals but rather embrace them there the beginning to the end of a life full of torment ....to kick methadone C/T is a hard way to do it and not recommended it is best to taper off of it slowly then kick once your at around 5ml of it...if tapered correctly it is uncomfortable but very doable if you need help with a taper schedule I know a good one and can send it threw the messenger to you...we no longer post them in the forum...as for pain I lived on narcotics chasing pain away for 16 1/2 yrs today im narcotic free and live in less pain then any time on the narcotics...about all I take now is 800mg ibuprofine witch never worked wile I was taking narcotics many here have found the same to be true for them to...one thing you can get that will help him out is some stuff called highlands restfull legs...you can get it at walmart or walgreens it will help with the leg thing...also theirs a good 3 in one vitamin calcium/magnesium/zinc you can get up at walmart for 6 bucks take 4 in the morning and 4 at dinner time this will cut down on the withdrawals concerdabley... C/Ting off methadone is not the way to get off it...but there have been others on this forum that have done it that way good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
with sever pain...I suffer 2 herniated disks and 3 deteriorating...once your off the narcotics for a wile your pain clock sorta resets itself and things that dident use to work actually work...I was prescribed methadone for pain control after using and abusing every conceivable pill out there...my use on it went the same way it did on the pain pills
I started out at 30mg a day and wound up at 150ml a day and it quit working all together for pain it was brutal to get off of but in the end it is so so worth it...tell your B/F not to fear the withdrawals but rather embrace them there the beginning to the end of a life full of torment ....to kick methadone C/T is a hard way to do it and not recommended it is best to taper off of it slowly then kick once your at around 5ml of it...if tapered correctly it is uncomfortable but very doable if you need help with a taper schedule I know a good one and can send it threw the messenger to you...we no longer post them in the forum...as for pain I lived on narcotics chasing pain away for 16 1/2 yrs today im narcotic free and live in less pain then any time on the narcotics...about all I take now is 800mg ibuprofine witch never worked wile I was taking narcotics many here have found the same to be true for them to...one thing you can get that will help him out is some stuff called highlands restfull legs...you can get it at walmart or walgreens it will help with the leg thing...also theirs a good 3 in one vitamin calcium/magnesium/zinc you can get up at walmart for 6 bucks take 4 in the morning and 4 at dinner time this will cut down on the withdrawals concerdabley... C/Ting off methadone is not the way to get off it...but there have been others on this forum that have done it that way good luck and God bless.....Gnarly
Thank you again for writing.
I guess I wasn't clear - but to ease yr concern at least a bit he has been out of bikes, somas and benzos for about 4 days, and out of mdone for 2-3, - at least his "regular" 200-300+ daily mdone. He had 1 today, found 2 ydy on floor, scraping around.
So gnarly and pixie, at least for now he can't od on anything. Also, he does not ever drink alcohol - bad stomach and hates taste.
The wdrls and fear of wdrls terrify him. I am astounded he's holding up as well as he is, actually. But you say the real wdrls come later, so who knows?
Btw he takes for severe extreme pain. Back, legs. Sohow can he stop anyway?
He is wide awKe ( I don't want to leave his side or fall asleep) and he said he feels so extremely strangely hot/cold uncomfortable, foot shakes.
Thank you sooo much.
Please write - will always quickly respond.
Christeven
I guess I wasn't clear - but to ease yr concern at least a bit he has been out of bikes, somas and benzos for about 4 days, and out of mdone for 2-3, - at least his "regular" 200-300+ daily mdone. He had 1 today, found 2 ydy on floor, scraping around.
So gnarly and pixie, at least for now he can't od on anything. Also, he does not ever drink alcohol - bad stomach and hates taste.
The wdrls and fear of wdrls terrify him. I am astounded he's holding up as well as he is, actually. But you say the real wdrls come later, so who knows?
Btw he takes for severe extreme pain. Back, legs. Sohow can he stop anyway?
He is wide awKe ( I don't want to leave his side or fall asleep) and he said he feels so extremely strangely hot/cold uncomfortable, foot shakes.
Thank you sooo much.
Please write - will always quickly respond.
Christeven
HI boy I was hoping for intervention here but we will work with whoever needs help
I wish this was ezer ...just make sure he dosent keep eating somas to try and lighten up the withdrawals or sleep this is a deadly idea.....I lost a sister in law 2 yrs ago to a soma vicaden overdose so every time I here somas a red flag goes up...it sounds like he has developed a huge tolerance to the stuff...witch makes it far more dangerous because of the high dosing...about all you can do is try and make him comfortable...about all that I know that really helps is a good hot soak in the tub this will buy you some releif ...
you say he dosent want to quit??? is he just detoxing because he is temporarily out??
tell him he dosent have to live this way ...that there is hope and life is so much better methadone free...but until he is ready to face his demons this will be a viscous circle that you are going to have to live in...I have been where he's at I spent 16 1/2yrs on narcotic ...It is so much better living in recovery...there is little you can do unless he is ready to quit ....I would recommend Alonon meeting for you...you need to take care of you and living life with an addict is often living with codependency Alonon will help you take care of you and to break your being an enabler in this situation ....I have loads of advise for both of you when he's ready to quit but its of no use at all if he still plans on using at this point all you can do is pray for a change of heart..I really feel for you and your situation ...but anyone that is willing to live with withdrawals as a "normal" part of life needs help in the worst way...but he's got to want it...good luck and God bless
.....Gnarly
I wish this was ezer ...just make sure he dosent keep eating somas to try and lighten up the withdrawals or sleep this is a deadly idea.....I lost a sister in law 2 yrs ago to a soma vicaden overdose so every time I here somas a red flag goes up...it sounds like he has developed a huge tolerance to the stuff...witch makes it far more dangerous because of the high dosing...about all you can do is try and make him comfortable...about all that I know that really helps is a good hot soak in the tub this will buy you some releif ...
you say he dosent want to quit??? is he just detoxing because he is temporarily out??
tell him he dosent have to live this way ...that there is hope and life is so much better methadone free...but until he is ready to face his demons this will be a viscous circle that you are going to have to live in...I have been where he's at I spent 16 1/2yrs on narcotic ...It is so much better living in recovery...there is little you can do unless he is ready to quit ....I would recommend Alonon meeting for you...you need to take care of you and living life with an addict is often living with codependency Alonon will help you take care of you and to break your being an enabler in this situation ....I have loads of advise for both of you when he's ready to quit but its of no use at all if he still plans on using at this point all you can do is pray for a change of heart..I really feel for you and your situation ...but anyone that is willing to live with withdrawals as a "normal" part of life needs help in the worst way...but he's got to want it...good luck and God bless
.....Gnarly
idk why those asterisks came up... all i said was "doing it this way" :) guess you cant say "doing". anyway just wanted to clarify that i wasn't swearing at you, keep us posted and hang in there.
i don't even know what to say as far as advice goes, but i do know that when my boyfriend went through withdrawals from oxys it was horrible to watch. i mean i went through my share of bad bad bad withdrawals also but to see someone you love in so much agony is just heart breaking. i just started taking methadone 3 months ago so I'm kinda knew to this type of withdrawal but fro everything I've heard i have to say I'm very nervous for you and for him. once the methadone really starts to leave his body.... :( i mean omg at 300mg to nothing????? he is going to go through a living HELL , please talk him into not going cold turkey or getting some sort of medical assistance. seriously my stomach is in knots just thinking of what he is about to go through. anyway what i have found that used to help me was..... honestly sex, cuz your very sensitive and can finally enjoy the rewards of sex, plus it makes you a little tired so your more likely to get some rest and also just trying to sleep it away, not recommended but i used to put myself in my own sort of medicated coma, maybe comas not the right word, but i would take whatever worked like benadryl or nyquil or tylenol pm and i would take whatever benzos i could get my hands on, again not recommended, and sleeping pills but in the end no matter what i took or did or even if i slept through my sickness i was still miserable and would go right back to whatever i had been doing before i decided to go cold turkey. i don't know of anyone that has been able to quit, certainly not from that high of a dose, **** it this way and it is not safe to go c/t. please keep posting and best of luck i will be thinking of you both and sending strength your way!!!!!
Thank u so much Gnarly as we've been awaiting response all dY. It's now midnight.
To clarify - he does not have benzo habit but sometimes keeps a few around to take off edge. You may not believe me but he went through 30 in 4 days. Hardly feels it. These are mild, least dosage benzos - NOT Valium or Xanax etc - as if that makes such a difference. He'll take 2 or 3 at once, 2/3-4 x day, so by 3rd day he feels nothing.
But yes - potential respiratory depression. Frankly I don't think he has a normal metabolism bcz he can consume huge quantities and combinations and function "normally," the only SOMETIMES obvious thing is his chatty rapid speaking - it all energizes him.
He found ONE - yes ONE 10mg mdone and it took the edge off a bit. The ice/hot/legskakes come and go. He says he feels like he's sort of in a freezer and in a fire simultaneously.
Anyway-what to do? He refuses refuses detox, treatmment. He is egotistical and too proud - vain.
He can't sleep. 2 nights ago he drifted in and out of freakish nightmares for all of maybe an hour.
He just won't stop. Can't. Doesn't want to. 15+ years.
Oh - for the first time in years he is like a nonstop sex machine. Go figure. I know the deal when the opiates leave his body. He's Been there many tmes.
I love him SOOO much. He is, believe it or not, the kindest, sweetest, gentlest wisest man but with a severe habit.
Hangin in. Thank you so much please PLEASE WRITE
Blessings to all. You are great. Great examples. *I can dream, can't I?*
love
"Christeven"
To clarify - he does not have benzo habit but sometimes keeps a few around to take off edge. You may not believe me but he went through 30 in 4 days. Hardly feels it. These are mild, least dosage benzos - NOT Valium or Xanax etc - as if that makes such a difference. He'll take 2 or 3 at once, 2/3-4 x day, so by 3rd day he feels nothing.
But yes - potential respiratory depression. Frankly I don't think he has a normal metabolism bcz he can consume huge quantities and combinations and function "normally," the only SOMETIMES obvious thing is his chatty rapid speaking - it all energizes him.
He found ONE - yes ONE 10mg mdone and it took the edge off a bit. The ice/hot/legskakes come and go. He says he feels like he's sort of in a freezer and in a fire simultaneously.
Anyway-what to do? He refuses refuses detox, treatmment. He is egotistical and too proud - vain.
He can't sleep. 2 nights ago he drifted in and out of freakish nightmares for all of maybe an hour.
He just won't stop. Can't. Doesn't want to. 15+ years.
Oh - for the first time in years he is like a nonstop sex machine. Go figure. I know the deal when the opiates leave his body. He's Been there many tmes.
I love him SOOO much. He is, believe it or not, the kindest, sweetest, gentlest wisest man but with a severe habit.
Hangin in. Thank you so much please PLEASE WRITE
Blessings to all. You are great. Great examples. *I can dream, can't I?*
love
"Christeven"
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