Methadone to Suboxene length of time need to withdrawl(withdrawal)

I have been taking Methadone for almost 3 yrs now and am supposed to switch to Sub on Monday.  My Doc told me not to take any Methadone this weekend so I can be in withdrawl (withdrawal).  Well today I have been feeling horrible like massive flu I have never had withdrawls this bad after not taking methadone within a 24hr period,,so I took 10mg of the Methadone today because Im feeling bad.  My question is will I still beable to switch to the sub Monday or do I have to wait now.

[sadinmichigan]

You should be able to take sub on monday...how much methadone are you on right now? The w/ds from methadone are the most horrid I know of..i went cold turkey off of 65mg...are you planning on doing a quick taper w/sub?? Sub is no where near as string as methadone,.so you will most likely have to be on the highest dose possible for sub..which i think is 32mg...someone else will be able to tell you..can I ask..why are you going on sub.

[raerae0027]

Thank you so much for responding back.  I tried a few times to get off of Methadone I went to rehab and everything,,I have fibromyalgia so when going thru the w/d my Fibro goes out of whack and Its the most horrible experience.  So my doc suggested the Sub I hate the idea of going from one hell grug to the next but at this point I have no idea what else I could do.  I started at 30mg and worked my way all the way up to 160 now only 10mg and 5mg after the 6 weeks of this last attempt to w/d so Im not taking a high dose anymore.  

[avisg]

You may have to wait an extra day. I would call your doctor and be honest with him about taking 10mg more .You want to make sure you don't go to preciptated withdrawals .From what I here they are very unpleasant.

[raerae0027]

Thats what I was thinking I just hope that they can get me another appt this soon usually you cant get in for a month.  I am soooo mad at myself for taking one today but man the pain and anxiety is horrible and I have two children a husband and house to look after.  Not a fun experience.  Thank you so much for the response

[road2recovery]

I have never done methadone or sub...But just wanted to welcome you..I do know what you mean about having to take care of kids etc, and feeling so sick....I wish you the best of luck...Many others who have taken your DOC will help you..
Good Luck
r2r

[Sasha341]

How much methadone were you on just before you stopped?

[raerae0027]

when i stopped last week I was taking 5 and 10mg's I usually alternate between the two different mg's depending on how I feel that day,,so then on Sat I took a 10 I took nothing yest and havent taken anything yet today and got my script for sub but foiunf out my ins will not pay for it and 20 pills cost a whopping 149 dollars so now Im tryin to figure out what to do about this.

[raerae0027]

sorry I should re phrase my previous entry before I attempted to stop on Sat I was taking  the 5 to 10mg's

[raerae0027]

Thank you so much for the info.  The friend of yours who did have w/d do you know how many mg's he/she was on of Methadone before the switch

[Becky102]

My husband has been on methadone for over 12 years and is tapering down for the last few months from a high of 135mgs.  Right now he's hovering between 70 and 80 mgs.  I have to congratulate you on even getting down to 5 or 10 mgs.  That's an accomplishment in itself!
He has degenerative disc disease and chronic headaches which led to his abuse of pain medication and his referral to a methadone clinic all those years ago.  It worked great for his pain and he has been drug free all this time, but I'm sure you'll understand the drawbacks and why he'd like to get off the methadone.
I would love it if you could keep us informed on how the suboxone treatment is going.  
I've been wondering if suboxone could be used to help with withdrawals from methadone - the plan being to start the suboxone and immediately start tapering down with the goal of being off all drugs in a few months.

[EightBall666]

Hello rae, I am 23 years old and I was taking 100mgs of prescribed methadone daily for at least 4 years for an addiction to heroin. Today is January 24th, 2009 and the last time I took any methadone was on new years eve of 2008. I was prescribed suboxone to help deal with the withdrawal and I have been taking it for about 3 weeks. I stopped taking the methadone at 22mgs and made the switch to sub. My goal is to stop taking the suboxone as soon as the methadone is out of my system - which from what I heard takes anywhere from 3 - 5 weeks. Everyday recently I have tried going without the subs to see how I feel without it, but the methadone is still coming out of my system so I still feel quite sick. I also have a little problem - I don't want to take the subs too long for fear of becoming dependent on them - and then starting ALL OVER with a new addiction. I know it has been quite a while since anyone posted on here, but if anyone is reading this I would like to hear of a similar experience. I am currently going into my 4th semester of college and I really need to beat this. Rae, please let me know how your husband is doing. Thanks.

[EightBall666]

My previous message was to Becky102, sorry for the mishap. Thanks.

[oxycontin2methadone2sub]

I was on methodone to beat 2 year oxy habit, yes you need to be in withdraw or sub will make you sick, Ive weened down to 1mg a day it last 24 hrs then that creepy **** starts, Ive found if you can keep busy its helps, if you sit around feeling of withdraw comes on faster, but you are traded one for another, even if insurance doesn't cover think about what you were paying om the street,I was up to 300 a week, still fight temptation and now Ive stopped 2nd day haven't slept at all maybe 3 hr in 48, but have job interview don't want to explain, have 5 kids wife to care for, I want my life back I feel so stupid, but I still remember how it felt so good made you so strong, but every one around you thinks your a ****, good luck never stop trying

[mikman42]

In the old days they would inject you with naloxone lay you on a bed and watch you withdraw for an hour to workout how much done to give you.They would gauge it by how sweaty your palms got how large your pupils dilated and tremors and cramps.I have just had 6mg of suboxone after my last methadone dose(20ml) 24 hrs ago(7th time on done 3yrs this go)  i felt sick and had the runs but within 2hrs the bup had overtaken the receptors go for it.The methadone is not a treatment its just cheaper than smack.Cheers.

[melimel09]

i made that fatal mistake of not waiting long enough. I was taking between 100 and 300mgs daily of methadone and weened down to 30mgs i waited a little over 24hrs and took one 8mg sub and it threw me into the worst withdrawls ever. I honestly felt like i was going to die and lose my mind. I was panting and sweating but freezing and shaking my heart was racing along with every other withdrawl (withdrawal) symptom. Trust me if u really want to quit u have to deal with those minor witdrawl symptoms to start subs. But they r great and do work. U can also go from methadones to vicodins to help. take a low methadone dose then goto vicodin for 3 to 5 days it takes the gamble out of switching to subs. After 3 to 5 days of the v's make sure u wait 12 to 24hrs. Let ur body do the talking. U r the only one who will really know when its time. u need to be having moderate withdrawls to start subs. Good luck im going thru quiting yet again myself. I was sober for 4 months but i let myself get sucked in again cuz my childs dad and boyfriend at the time was still addicted and wouldnt quit. But now hes out of my life and i have to quit so i can have a life again. Ive been going thru this for about 8 yrs and im tired of losing everything and not being a whole person.

Thanks to all u guys for all your posts, it helps a lot to have somewhere u can openly talk about it. Im like a lot of u. No one can know i hve kept this a secret from my parents being they will try and take my child away from me if they find out im taking pills again. I wish everyone of you the best of luck. Ive got a lot of experience with this whole process so i can probably answer a lot of questions. I just cant tell you how to stay sober thats the one thing i have not been able to do thusfar but this time im making sure i dont go back. Its so much easier to stay clean then it is to kick all over again.

[jamez10]

hi my name is james and im 20 years old and have been on just about every pain pill there is and heroin,methadone and suboxone.Right now im on 65 mgs of methadone a day and i had the same hellish expirience i missed a day of my methadone so i did a 4 mg shot of subutex and it was one of my top withdraws i have ever been through and trust me i have been through some really bad ****.after i did it it took about 5-10 minutes for the withdraw to come on then over the next 20 minutes just got worse n worse until i just wanted to blow my brains out n get it over with my stomoch instantly started cringing like somone squezzing a wet towel and i started projectile vomoting and ******** on the toilet (didnt make it there first by the way)i was pouring sweat i was so hot n at same time cold and could feel every nerve in my entire body and all other symptoms too subutex bad idea with methadone

[jezz632]

how  long  does  it  take to  withdraw  off  suboxone 4mg

[TrayCee]

everyones different, theres no certain length of time for withdrawals to end.  It depends on the amount of time you been using, your age, your over all health, your weight, the highest mg used
....LOTS of  variables.

Godo Luck though