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Not looking forward to tonight :(

Well I'm down to just 2 percocets a day now and I have just bumped my fentanyl patch down to 25mcg from 50 mcg. I am not at all looking forward to the w/d at all. I need lots if support to stay strong cuz I'm not sure I can do this. I don't do well with pain and being uncomfortable. Hope everyone else is doing well.
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Good morning Hope. I could be wrong, but, I bet the farm that the sensation in your hands and arms is the beginning of restlessness. Restlessness, especially in our arms and legs (RLS), is a major part of the detox experience as the body purges the opiates. It was the major symptom that I put up with, outweighing all the other symptoms I experienced. It wasn't painful, just freeking aggravating! It kept me awake. I read that it's uneven dopamine neuron levels in our extremities at the nerve ends. That made sense to me. Whatever! It's an aggravating necessity to get better. I think that "Body purges the opiates" is important here. It's the major part in getting better, getting clean from opiates. So going through this part of your withdrawal is your body working to get you clean and finally free from opiates.

All who've gone through opiate WD over the years have compiled remedies that have helped make the restlessness tolerable. The major ones that helped me in order of importance: Moving around. I walked my dogs during the day, every day, no matter what (and they love me for it!). Other times I got out of bed, I stood up and moved around the house. That usually takes it away. I didn't worry about sleep. I would sleep when I could. The best sleep was always after HOT BATHS (#2). Especially with Epsom salts, lots of it. The Magnesium from the Epsom worked it's way into my legs.  Also two tabs of Magnesium every morning with breakfast helped. (#3) Highland's restless legs. Dunno if it helped, but I took it anyway. I wish you the best recovery!
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2107676 tn?1388973859
I was going to suggest when I read this earlier that you do the fentanyl first and then go off of the percs.  Fentanyl is very difficult to withdraw from and the percs may ease it a bit.  
I just think it would be much easier on you than to try and stop both at one time.
This is just my opinion.
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Don't go back on the percs.  You're doing very well.  Stay strong and use the words of encouragement from the other good people here.  We will help you get through this.  I don't know much about fentanyl.  I imagine that you will be somewhat uncomfortable for a few days by dropping your dose 50%.  It shouldn't be anything you can't handle though.  The Thomas recipe has some wonderful things that can ease your symptoms, and if you feel better physically, it will help mentally.  Immodium is a life saver.  So are b vitamins and l-tyrosine for energy.  Sleep may be an issue, so try something like valerian root.  I've used it before and it does work.  Benadryl is also very good for sleep.  The active ingredient can be found in generic sleep aids.  Take a nice hot bath with epsom salt.  It is cheap and will help a lot with aches.  Buy yourself a good book and try to chill out.  Stay in the tub as long as you need.  If you get the night sweats, I recommend not fighting them.  Just get up for 20 minutes and read or watch tv, then try again.  Soak your feet in hot water...that can help relieve them.  
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Well I got a few hours of sleep last night so that was good. I don't like how Im feeling its not fun at all. I don't know how some of you go cold turkey. I for sure give you that have done it tons of credit!!!
For some reason my hands feel weird ill try to explain. They hurt a bit and just feel like they have to move constantly, kind of feel creepy crawly, like I have to keep moving them?? It's so uncomfortable :(  Has anyone else weaned off fentanyl? Also I'm down to 2 percocets from 4 a day should I bump back up to 3 just until I get thru this? How long will it take for my body to adjust from the fentanyl going from 50mcg to 25mcg? Thanks
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Good to hear from you. I hope the taper will lessen the WDs for you somewhat. I know you want freedom and this is your opportunity. The one thing that helped me was knowing the fact that the WDs aren't fatal. They can be rough but the rough stuff doesn't last long. The aggravating little stuff hangs on for awhile, but nothing like withdrawing from something like a benzo or acute alcohol. Those are the dangerous withdrawals that require medical attention. I know it's easy for me to say, 'cause I'm thru my WDs, but try not to worry about the future. Yesterday's history, tomorrow is a mystery. Stay in the now.  Mark Twain wrote: "I'm an old man who's seen lots of trouble, most of which never happened". You're going to get thru this Hope, you will. And you'll be free.
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Yes but they only gave me 10 so I hope that's enough to get me thru the worst of it.
They tapered me from 50mcg to 25mcg today.
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4847640 tn?1362723927
Have you considered tapering lower before stopping? It would lessen your withdraw some
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Were you able to get some clonadine from a doc? Makes a world of difference. Highly recommend it. ALSO, your gonna need Imodium right? I have found that in spite of the fact that, as a synth opiod, it isn't suppose to cross the B/B....it seem to cut into some of the symptons...RLS in particular. I came off a year of using 60-75 mg oxy/day. By day 3 I was sleeping 8 hrs a nite,no RLS at all. Then again maybe I just got luck but it's worth a try. Wishing you the best.

Peace

Jimi
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I'm on 8 hours past when I was suppose to replace me patch. I'm starting to get bad stomach cramps and feeling a bit nauseous. Idk if that's normal or if its more nerves than anything
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4847640 tn?1362723927
You come to the right place for support. There is a lot of people here with compassion and understanding. Hope you can get from "I'm not sure if I can do this" to "nothing is gonna stop me from doing this". For me it wasn't till I surrendered to endure whatever comes to get through this that I had a chance. Everyone is different but I think 80%of my success so far has come from attitude alone. If you can see a dim light at the end of the tunnel it will get brighter as you get closer. If you don't see any light you are in the dark with nowhere to go.
Wish you health and happiness.
TaKe CaRe
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