Oxycotin relapse (sort of)

[CHAD FROM PHILLY!!!]

Hello everyone, as you might know from my posts below, I have a problem with Oxy's. Here is the situation. Today is 13 days without doing Oxycotin, however my girlfriend and I did percocect last night. I guess we were trying to see how they would effect us. We took two apiece and BAMM, we were flying. My question is this. By doing the percocet last night, will our recovery be affected? I know that physically we feel fine. I am concerned about the mental effect of doing them will have on us as I am about to fill a script for a ton of Oxy's. I was kind of wishing that we were going to wake up today with the shakes. This way we would have never considered using anything again as the withdraw is to much to handel. Unfourtunatly, we feel great today so I wonder if we will be able to dabble with the Oxy's. In other word's will one or two once or twice a week effect us? I know that every one is different but I thought some of you might have some insite to my new problem.

[Angie to Ken]

Thank You for seeing those questions as they were intended. I wasn't going to respond anymore because the more I try to explain the more I must sound like an addict. I am not putting down anyone who is one as we all struggle with one thing or another in our lives. Having to take pain medication is certainly something I wouldn't wish on anyone. Having your health is the biggest high on earth. I was hoping to find out if the patch would be less addictive than taking pills, that is one reason I wanted the equivalent ratio. However it sounds like I'm on something much stronger. Maybe it's time to see a new dr. since he tended to brush off my questions. Good Luck jf!!

[jf to chad]

hope u find out the answers but u did not come across as someone
seeking a way to get more out of the patch for a "high", ur
questions are valid and resonable so don't take offense!
I slit one patch and ate about a match head of the jelly like med.  I did not feel anything xtra so they may only be effective
when leached into ur bloodstream.  Kinda good to read this dialogue.  I went back to the oxy's yesterday, 2 80s 3 times a day.  Not bad and will get somewhat of a buzz.  Take care and let me know what u find out please!

[tom to Gina]

from one addict to another, it's obvious you're trying to sqeeze a better high from the fentanyl patch (you said it controlled your pain ok). I don't blame you, but fentanyl is an incredibly potent narcotic. It's many, many, many times more powerful by weight than heroin. It's famous for killing heroin addicts using it as a designer-drug substitute for smack. If you're going to go after a high, surely the percs would be safer and probably do a better job. Don't fool with cutting open those patches. You could wake up dead. Not worth it, Gina!

[Angie to Ken]

I'm sorry if I came across the wrong way. If I was an addict I wouldn't be asking if I could keep them on an extra day, I would be asking if I could put two on at a time. I am trying to figure out what they are comparable to in the form of pill brand/dosage. The reason I ask about the heat is I read about avoiding that only after I took a long hot shower. I mentioned that I do not get the buzz like I do off pills but that was OK with me since they took care of the pain. I am afraid of becoming addicted, have discussed this with my dr. who stated as long as I take them on a regular dosage my chances are slim. I'm wondering if that is true so who better to ask then people who have been there. Sorry again if I sounded shady but does anyone know these answers or is duragesic something that is not familiar on the street?

[Philly to Chad]

Hey Chad, I have been following this discussion thread for the last few days.  I am a fellow Philadelphian.  The reason I am responding is to encourage you to follow your idea of training in the IT industry.  I am a mid-level manager of an IS department in a major company in Philadelphia.  I can tell you that it is a great career to get into if you are really interested.  The money is good and it is very exciting work.

I guess I am also writing to say that you can make it...you can be successful even after this problem.  I was in your place a few years ago.  I still struggle.  Anyway I finished my college degree from a reputable university and am now making a 6 digit income.  If I can do it anyone can do it.  

Although I didn't go there, I hear Temple University has a great (non-credit if you aren't interested in college) IT training problem with offices in Philly and Fort Washington and other places.  And they are relatively inexpensive.  They may even have need-based scholarships.  There are other great training programs in the area too.

Good luck

A friend in Philly

[Ken , day two]

Gina , I hate to say it but it sounds as if your trying to find a way to get the most out of the patch that you can.And me being an addict I would too. So please use them as they are supposed to be used and you wont end up like me, trying to find a way to get off of this miserable ****.If I'm wrong Im sorry to have said anything. That is just the way it sounded to me.