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Pain meds vs Alcohol
Hello everyone,
I am prescribed 90 40mg oxys and 270 5mg roxicodones a month for
neuropathy. IT's been this way for a year. I've just about had
enough of these meds as I know they are killing me. I used to
drink alot of beer every day but since I've been on the meds I
have not drank as much as an ounce of beer. If I quit the meds
(I've got all the stuff from Thomas's recipe) I know I'll go
back to drinking. I'am torn up on which way to go. I quit smoking
14 months ago cold turkey so I do believe I can quit the meds,
although it will be tough with this habbit and the length I've
been on the meds. Does anyone have an idea which way I should go?
Also I too have been banned from the other web site. I did'nt do
anything wrong.
Thanks Tom
I am prescribed 90 40mg oxys and 270 5mg roxicodones a month for
neuropathy. IT's been this way for a year. I've just about had
enough of these meds as I know they are killing me. I used to
drink alot of beer every day but since I've been on the meds I
have not drank as much as an ounce of beer. If I quit the meds
(I've got all the stuff from Thomas's recipe) I know I'll go
back to drinking. I'am torn up on which way to go. I quit smoking
14 months ago cold turkey so I do believe I can quit the meds,
although it will be tough with this habbit and the length I've
been on the meds. Does anyone have an idea which way I should go?
Also I too have been banned from the other web site. I did'nt do
anything wrong.
Thanks Tom
Hi Chancycook,
You will find that you a very welcome here. I too am new
and everyone has been great to me. Just keep posting you will
meet some great people here.
Tom
You will find that you a very welcome here. I too am new
and everyone has been great to me. Just keep posting you will
meet some great people here.
Tom
Hi everyone! This is my first time to find a site like this. It is so nice to know that I am not alone in my addiction. My problem now is alcohol. I have found it to be the hardest drug to overcome. Years ago I was addicted to cocaine, but quitting that was nothing compared to me quitting alcohol.I guess maybe I have inherited genes that make me lean towards alcohol more than any other drug.I was going to try and quit cold turkey, but then read about DT's and possible seizures which scare me. I keep telling myself that I will do it slowly yet my husband will always buy more beer than I ask for and of course I drink all that is in the house. I am determined to quit yet scared of the process. I am worried right now that I won't be able to go to sleep since I didn't buy anymore than two beers. Anyway, I would love to be a part of this group. I have been hiding my problem from many people for a long time.Thanks
you hang in there... i want to talk to you but i have a sick child right now... you were heard... please don't give up on this board.... i will be back....
love..... stars
love..... stars
Good luck I wish I could go your route, I feel for me to get over my addiction that I need the kids gone and my man. ( he isn't a supportive type) I am only taking 5 vicoding 500mg a day, but I am tired of it and want my old life back. I can take more at times (usually the weekend maybe 6) But I want to quit and the withdrawls is what I don't look forward to. It is hard for me to go to work and take care of the house. I am like you are about the house, I let the house totally go (that isn't me) I really don't have anyone I am comfortable talking to about it. I have been doing allot of research since Friday night and some of the stories are going to help me get over this. What is the Recipe everyone is talking about
YOU CAN DO IT, I KNOW YOU CAN, JUST THINK IF YOU GO BACK THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO THIS DAY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
YOU CAN DO IT, I KNOW YOU CAN, JUST THINK IF YOU GO BACK THEN YOU WILL HAVE TO THIS DAY AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
thank you stars sooo much for your support, and kind words....i won't say i will bear all the guilt....but as close as he and i are....i should have known he was on something....at any rate i think he is doing ok and making the right decisions...he knows who his "unclean" (for lack of better words)friends are....and his "clean" friends. he has made the responsible decision to stay away from the ones that bring him down....i am also in the process of moving us out of the small town we live in....the younger one will also be fine....he has a year to go in highschool though and for the first time, looks forward to his senior year...i just wish they would learn to like eachother again....
you ALL are sooo strong...one day if i ever need the strength for ANYTHING i will always come here....and read and remember how every day is a struggle for alot of you....take care all, and never give up your fights....you are all....stronger and braver then anyone i have ever known of....my prayers and thoughts will always be with eachone of you....thanks again stars....addictsmom
you ALL are sooo strong...one day if i ever need the strength for ANYTHING i will always come here....and read and remember how every day is a struggle for alot of you....take care all, and never give up your fights....you are all....stronger and braver then anyone i have ever known of....my prayers and thoughts will always be with eachone of you....thanks again stars....addictsmom
I totally hear you regarding your self neglect. My 20 year old heroin addicted son looks like ****. It is heartbreaking to see but I have let so much go. He is living in someone's basement. When he comes here, he eats a little and sleeps then goes back for more. He could clean up but he doesn't even change his underwear. This is a total change for him. I love him and have offered treatment but I don't think he believes he can stay clean so won't bother. He detoxed in the hospital last month when he had endocarditis but went back to the streets. He knows we love him and the door is open but we can't make him change. What is it going to take to get him into treatment? We are all dying a slow death. I do go to alanon but there's no magic bullet. How did you get clean? Gina
your post was far from meaningless... painful but true.. i dont think ANYONE on here can say anything meaningless... its our refuge where we dont have to hide.. your message was a perfect example of that J.B.! i am so happy you made the right decision with your wifes medication. i feel that each time one of us turns away from taking that little pill, or that drink, or that cigarette, that injection, one person who struggles to be clean gets one step closer.... thank you J.B.!
prayers and peace.... stars
prayers and peace.... stars
I enjoyed scanning through some of the posts here tonight. It seems like sex(libido)came up a few times. Actually, the sex drive is a dead giveaway as to how you are doing both physically and mentally. When it's gone down the tubes, beware! In my opinion, antidepressants can wreck havoc with libido and opiates simply step in and replace it.
When we regain that feeling that we "want to look attractive" and somewhat outgoing...it's wonderful! During my bouts with narcotic and alcohol addiction, I didn't care enough about myself to even be someone that you'ld want to talk to. Bad hair, bad breath, bad clothes, bad attitude and so on. I was the anonymus drunk/junkie with no time for real life, being totally into myself. Sadly, nobody even knew my name!
So, you eventually end up with yourself, by yourself and you loathe yourself. Pistol and ball would likely be more than merciful at this point, but most choose the prolonged suicide attempt of addiction. This post is meaningless to most of you but I had to get it out of my system and hear myself speak to myself. Just minutes ago, I had several more tabs of morphine in my hand and put them back in the bottle...they are meant for my wife's pain, not mine!
J.B.
When we regain that feeling that we "want to look attractive" and somewhat outgoing...it's wonderful! During my bouts with narcotic and alcohol addiction, I didn't care enough about myself to even be someone that you'ld want to talk to. Bad hair, bad breath, bad clothes, bad attitude and so on. I was the anonymus drunk/junkie with no time for real life, being totally into myself. Sadly, nobody even knew my name!
So, you eventually end up with yourself, by yourself and you loathe yourself. Pistol and ball would likely be more than merciful at this point, but most choose the prolonged suicide attempt of addiction. This post is meaningless to most of you but I had to get it out of my system and hear myself speak to myself. Just minutes ago, I had several more tabs of morphine in my hand and put them back in the bottle...they are meant for my wife's pain, not mine!
J.B.
welcome!!!! you surely are in the right place. a place where we all come together to help... first and foremost addictsmom, whatever you do, don't blame YOURSELF!! i did that with my oldest and it nearly distroyed me. your boys have minds of their own and they are the ones who made the wrong choices. if you were there when they smoked the meth, then you can blame yourself, but i'm sure you weren't... my son went through the same thing at the same age.. it did not last long. it is a strong drug, but it also has strong ill effects which one gets tierd of... i found that with my son and his friends.. they all still smoke pot, but i myself dont have a big problem with that... i just dont want it in my house due to my other children. some people get caught up in meth, but you need to pray that they see the reality of the drug.. you know, you must be a wonderful mom in order to have your child have enough faith and trust in you to come to you and tell you that he has a serious problem.. i applaud him, and you, for doing all the right things. please tell him that i am praying for him and his recovery. the younger one also. its so hard being a teenager now.. i have 3 and i thank God everyday that they are focused. but i know things can change in a heartbeat! i pray for peace for you and your family... you also have a family here, who will be happy to help carry your burden...
peace, prayers and blessings
stars.....
peace, prayers and blessings
stars.....
hi all, i have come into this forum and listened for a couple of months now, you people are the greatest inspiration ANYBODY could have. i luckily am not an addict of any kind....i quit smoking cigs a couple of months ago and have not had a smoke or drag off one since 01-10-02....im very proud it sucked and was very hard....however reading your posts every day helped me tremendously...my son is 19 and i just found out about a month ago that he was smoking crystal meth on a daily basis....he came to me and admitted he needed help....we put him in an out patient detox for 7 days....as far as i know he hasn't done any drugs since except for smoking weed.....he has no reason to lie to me now that he has come clean with the truth so i believe him....maybe im a little naive...i hope not...what my real problem is...is that he also got my 17yr old to do it too....he knows that i know also...but he swears he doens't have a problem...however...since my oldest came home from detox...the younger one says his brother died the day he came home...he says the older one is possessed by satan....is this all in his messed up mind because he was doing the meth too??...the older one says it is....but im lost...im 38 and have never dealt with these types of drugs before....please help and give me some insight...these two hate eachother right now...my youngest is clean now and staying with an older friend that he is close to, who would never allow him to have drugs around him...thanks all for your help...i know you have troubles of your own and i thank you for taking time to listen to mine....you all are the best...thanks..
addictsmom
addictsmom
radioboy.... are you in the radio business? everytime i see your name i think of the days when i was in the early to mid 70's.. the perks and drugs were great! sometimes i wonder how i survived that! guess it all helped me become who i am today...
i am surprised the trazadone isn't helping you... that was the only was i could get any sleep.. some nights i took alittle higher dose just to pull me through. maybe you need a higher mg.? is that something you can get? check with your doctor. nothing else worked for me. i had a few xanax left and they helped also... trying strecthing also before you go to bed. as hard as it was i laid on the floor and strecthed out like crazy.. it seem to make my getting into bed more comfortable.. i wish you luck and peace... hang in there!
love and prayers..... stars
p.s. one more thing... soak in a hot bath with epsom salts... that was also a great help....
i am surprised the trazadone isn't helping you... that was the only was i could get any sleep.. some nights i took alittle higher dose just to pull me through. maybe you need a higher mg.? is that something you can get? check with your doctor. nothing else worked for me. i had a few xanax left and they helped also... trying strecthing also before you go to bed. as hard as it was i laid on the floor and strecthed out like crazy.. it seem to make my getting into bed more comfortable.. i wish you luck and peace... hang in there!
love and prayers..... stars
p.s. one more thing... soak in a hot bath with epsom salts... that was also a great help....
hinkster!!!! walk dude!!! move your feet around.. i'm tellin ya these feelings are temporary!!!! being addicted may not!! again as i have said before, our withdrawls are a small price to pay!!! i want you to be strong!!! i lift you in prayer Tom! please be stronger than your medication, because WE ALL have the power to overcome... i found it easier incorporating God into my struggle... pull from what ever stronger power you can... hang in there, please!!!! wish i could take your pain away!!! i am with you in thought and prayer... love and peace... stars
To All,
Now that I have a bit more time to expand on what J.B. said.
He's right. I need a spring board. This peripheral neuropathy
is killing me. My feet feel like their going to explode. This
is one bad ass diease. I've tried everything. Neurontin,topamax,
tegatol,something that starts with a z and even a killer hot
pepper cream called Capzasin.HP. Stay away from that one. The
only thing that seems to work is the pain meds. But I know this can not go on forever. Thats where you people come in. Support,
Support,Support. I need your support. I don't know what to do I
can't live like this too much longer. Thanks for listening to
my complaints. I'll be away for a few days so I'll check back
later. Thanks again.
Tom
Now that I have a bit more time to expand on what J.B. said.
He's right. I need a spring board. This peripheral neuropathy
is killing me. My feet feel like their going to explode. This
is one bad ass diease. I've tried everything. Neurontin,topamax,
tegatol,something that starts with a z and even a killer hot
pepper cream called Capzasin.HP. Stay away from that one. The
only thing that seems to work is the pain meds. But I know this can not go on forever. Thats where you people come in. Support,
Support,Support. I need your support. I don't know what to do I
can't live like this too much longer. Thanks for listening to
my complaints. I'll be away for a few days so I'll check back
later. Thanks again.
Tom
J.B.
That was perfect, Thanks. I'll try to hang in there. My
PN could have been caused by the Alchol. I was told that.
Tom
That was perfect, Thanks. I'll try to hang in there. My
PN could have been caused by the Alchol. I was told that.
Tom
unisom and valerian root. they're both over the counter. I use them every night. slight sleep hang over, but at least I fall asleep for for a coupla hours. I've never been a good sleeper and too scared to go to the doc. for fear I'll get a beating or arrested :)
Can anyone suggest something for sleep besides Ambien and trazadone? I have been up for 3 days now and can't get any sleep.
ketta, i have been your posts for sometime now. how many times have you also touched my soul? many! forgive all of you if i dont mention you individually... kip, i include you towards my recovery.. this forum is honest and raw... what can be better? we admit our failures and our strenghts, they go hand in hand. not ONE OF US comes across as being better than the other, we just grasp at other peoples strenght and hopes.. we are all one in a union of despair who wants desperatly to be free from what weighs us down... for those of us who let go and continue to struggle, but yet are learning to fly, we come back to the place that helped us spread our wings... its kinda crazy that i have zero cravings, but yet i crave this forum and people in it.. ketta, you talk about "having balls".... it was harder to admit to myself that i was messed up... but i thank you for mentioning "balls" while my hormones are outta control... wonder if i'll get addicted to sex now? lol! thank you dear one for your time and kindness of words...
dawnslight.... just don't stop, and try not to look back right now... go full speed ahead.... i can tell you this much... being the "young" mother of four beautiful children, i share your passion in our gift of being mothers... but you know what? when the hard part is over.... your gonna wake one day and you'll be blown away at every aspect of your daughter and her beauty because we have been clouded for so long... i promise you, you will see her in a different light... i am struggling sending them to school everyday because i feel like i have missed so much of them the last few years... keep it up dawnslight.... feel free to contact me personally anytime at ***@****.... my address is open to anyone...
remember..... don't look back and embrace each minute..
love, peace and blessings..... stars.....
dawnslight.... just don't stop, and try not to look back right now... go full speed ahead.... i can tell you this much... being the "young" mother of four beautiful children, i share your passion in our gift of being mothers... but you know what? when the hard part is over.... your gonna wake one day and you'll be blown away at every aspect of your daughter and her beauty because we have been clouded for so long... i promise you, you will see her in a different light... i am struggling sending them to school everyday because i feel like i have missed so much of them the last few years... keep it up dawnslight.... feel free to contact me personally anytime at ***@****.... my address is open to anyone...
remember..... don't look back and embrace each minute..
love, peace and blessings..... stars.....
Hi all...
You wonderful people mentioned above, have NO IDEA what your responses to my earlier post meant to me! I'm crying all over my keyboard, but this time w/happy tears that in such a short time, I feel as if I've made new friends/family that only the few of us can relate too. Thus, we share a most excellent bond.
I will contact each of you that left your email address. Mine is ***@****
I took a Klonopin after speaking to my daughter about 4:30. It knocked me out till 8 tonight. That's great for the jitters and such during the day, but now...I bet I'll be up w/my 4 cats till the sun rises again tonight. Lucky me!
If the cold sweats would just go away, I actually might feel somewhat human. I have absolutely no desire to do anything but watch daytime TV. What a waste! But I know it's for a great cause. At least I have cable. lol.
"J.B"...I'll take the longest shower of my life tomorrow, put on bright light comfy clothes, curl my hair, put on purfume and listen to all kinds of music...very loud to pass the time. Maybe I'll do the laundry. I think lying around is adding to the pain and such by virtue of total boredom. Thanks for the advice!
This is shear torture. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. It's your stories of hope like "bronzeback" off for 20 days that are keeping me going. I wish we could all meet one day and share our experiences as sober productive people.
"Stars"...thank you for reminding me that I'm a good mom. That's my most sensitive area w/all of this. I pray my beautiful daughter never "uses" just cause mom did.
Tomorrow (Thurs) will be the beginning of day 4 off the lortab, and beginning of day 3 for the oxy. I pray, it will soooo much easier than the last few days. I'll keep you all in prays as well. Please keep in touch w/me. I came VERY close to taking my oxys this afternoon. Thank God for you, my daughter and the fact I fell asleep today. Write anytime!
Hugs and prays...:)
Dawnslight
You wonderful people mentioned above, have NO IDEA what your responses to my earlier post meant to me! I'm crying all over my keyboard, but this time w/happy tears that in such a short time, I feel as if I've made new friends/family that only the few of us can relate too. Thus, we share a most excellent bond.
I will contact each of you that left your email address. Mine is ***@****
I took a Klonopin after speaking to my daughter about 4:30. It knocked me out till 8 tonight. That's great for the jitters and such during the day, but now...I bet I'll be up w/my 4 cats till the sun rises again tonight. Lucky me!
If the cold sweats would just go away, I actually might feel somewhat human. I have absolutely no desire to do anything but watch daytime TV. What a waste! But I know it's for a great cause. At least I have cable. lol.
"J.B"...I'll take the longest shower of my life tomorrow, put on bright light comfy clothes, curl my hair, put on purfume and listen to all kinds of music...very loud to pass the time. Maybe I'll do the laundry. I think lying around is adding to the pain and such by virtue of total boredom. Thanks for the advice!
This is shear torture. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. It's your stories of hope like "bronzeback" off for 20 days that are keeping me going. I wish we could all meet one day and share our experiences as sober productive people.
"Stars"...thank you for reminding me that I'm a good mom. That's my most sensitive area w/all of this. I pray my beautiful daughter never "uses" just cause mom did.
Tomorrow (Thurs) will be the beginning of day 4 off the lortab, and beginning of day 3 for the oxy. I pray, it will soooo much easier than the last few days. I'll keep you all in prays as well. Please keep in touch w/me. I came VERY close to taking my oxys this afternoon. Thank God for you, my daughter and the fact I fell asleep today. Write anytime!
Hugs and prays...:)
Dawnslight
So admirable your telling all the doc.s not to give you dope. I have not been able to do that. I go to the ones that got "THE LETTER" but I don't say anything. That takes big balls, and I applaud you.
Went to church tonight, and we talked about burdens. It was such a release to give this up to god. Your messages are inspiring. I am surprisingly hopeful because of my relationship with god. I pray for all of you everyday. thank you so much, I hope I can give an ounce of what I've taken here. Ketta.
Went to church tonight, and we talked about burdens. It was such a release to give this up to god. Your messages are inspiring. I am surprisingly hopeful because of my relationship with god. I pray for all of you everyday. thank you so much, I hope I can give an ounce of what I've taken here. Ketta.
Dawnslight.... i admire your strenght and your courage. i have found that there is a small price to pay for our addictions. You are a very smart women, and loving mother, you will not regret being free from what holds us back from whats real.. i am on my 3rd week of sobriety tomorrow, and it could not have been done without the people from this forum. you are in very good hands here. i am glad you are here... please know that all of us are here for you and will help carry your burden.
i finally went to my doctor today and fessed up. its ironic that my doctor went to on tell me how he had become addicted to Vicodin... hhhmmmmmm never would have guessed... i asked him along with my other doctors and dentist to mark my chart to never prescribe opiates. even though i am through the acute withdrawls (which is so great) but now my problem has been weight gain, muscle tension, and my blood pressure was pretty high today. i need to go back next week for the doctor to check it again. has anyone had any of the symtoms after going cold turkey? one good thing about quitting is that my sex drive is raging like crazy....
thank you everyone for all your support and caring... witchywomen, you are so great about coming around at all the right times. you were so good for me in my first few days of quitting... it meant so much... again as i have said before, i offer all you of up in prayer every morning, along with those who suffer alone! into a new day we go... may be all walk with strenght! prayers and peace..... stars
i finally went to my doctor today and fessed up. its ironic that my doctor went to on tell me how he had become addicted to Vicodin... hhhmmmmmm never would have guessed... i asked him along with my other doctors and dentist to mark my chart to never prescribe opiates. even though i am through the acute withdrawls (which is so great) but now my problem has been weight gain, muscle tension, and my blood pressure was pretty high today. i need to go back next week for the doctor to check it again. has anyone had any of the symtoms after going cold turkey? one good thing about quitting is that my sex drive is raging like crazy....
thank you everyone for all your support and caring... witchywomen, you are so great about coming around at all the right times. you were so good for me in my first few days of quitting... it meant so much... again as i have said before, i offer all you of up in prayer every morning, along with those who suffer alone! into a new day we go... may be all walk with strenght! prayers and peace..... stars
Dawnslight:
of course were intrested in what you have to say! i detox every 4-6
take a week off the oxy-c to find out where my pain level is. i do
not to be on oxy for the rest of my life and this is the only way
for me to find out. about the crying thing-- get yourself a book by
James Herriot (all creatures great and small) and cry your eyes
out! if i have to be this dammed emotionly vulnerable, at least let
me have some say in what i cry over. there is nothing like a good
animal story to grasp my heart and cry my eyes out! if i didn't direct my self i'ld be crying over broken shoe laces, dust bunnys, and every other thing that can race through my little brain. just
remember, there is way thru all of this. KEEP POSTING!!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
of course were intrested in what you have to say! i detox every 4-6
take a week off the oxy-c to find out where my pain level is. i do
not to be on oxy for the rest of my life and this is the only way
for me to find out. about the crying thing-- get yourself a book by
James Herriot (all creatures great and small) and cry your eyes
out! if i have to be this dammed emotionly vulnerable, at least let
me have some say in what i cry over. there is nothing like a good
animal story to grasp my heart and cry my eyes out! if i didn't direct my self i'ld be crying over broken shoe laces, dust bunnys, and every other thing that can race through my little brain. just
remember, there is way thru all of this. KEEP POSTING!!
keep an angel on your shoulder
kip
Hello, I too have been addicted to fioricet w/codiene. the list of pills I have not been addicted to are shorter by the way. I loved them, They felt sooo good. I have not taken them in years. As a medical professional ( at the time) I called them in for myself. They are dangerous because the main ingrediant butalbital is a sedative/hypnotic and you can have seizures and other health related problems. they are easy to get because I think they are a schedule 3 Low abuse potential Yeah right!!! besides my old friend lorcet 10/650 They were my pills of choice.
Good luck. To anyone who is seeking an outpatient detox I live in Md and there is a great one here. 2 days outpatient supervised with buprenex. Baddgirl
Good luck. To anyone who is seeking an outpatient detox I live in Md and there is a great one here. 2 days outpatient supervised with buprenex. Baddgirl
You bet I care about your detox, my friend! I get the cold clammy feelings first and the chills. That recquires an electric blanket or something of that nature. Later, it's the sweatiness and stench of something fermenting. Take showers and put on clean clothes for God's sake!
When you begin to feel human again, try to do something...anything that can reconnect you with reality like washing the dishes and taking out the trash. When we are this sick, any symbolic thing we do means a lot. Take a break when you feel tired and enjoy something for a change. Life is coming back into your mind and body as it supposed to be. Don't despair if things look like **** right now, they could get worse. Then again they could get much better. Just always remember that the physical withdrawal is easy compared to the psychological one. The second part is where the real work begins!
J.B.
When you begin to feel human again, try to do something...anything that can reconnect you with reality like washing the dishes and taking out the trash. When we are this sick, any symbolic thing we do means a lot. Take a break when you feel tired and enjoy something for a change. Life is coming back into your mind and body as it supposed to be. Don't despair if things look like **** right now, they could get worse. Then again they could get much better. Just always remember that the physical withdrawal is easy compared to the psychological one. The second part is where the real work begins!
J.B.
Hiya Dawnslight,
Of course we are interested in how you are doing! Please..write all you need to, whenever you need to and if you need to corespond with someone, write me at ***@****
I think what you are doing is very brave, and I know how hard it is. i've been there, and remember all to well. The good news is that there is light at the end of the tunnel and you are almost there. I don't know what to tell you about the chronic pain, but I did the same thing....detoxed shortly after back surgery because I was sick and tired of being addicted and also really wanted to know my true, unmedicated pain level. I found that even though I still have back pain, it is tolerable most of the time, and it is preferable than being a slave to chasing a little white pill.
Hang in there, know that we are all rooting for you.
love,
WW
Of course we are interested in how you are doing! Please..write all you need to, whenever you need to and if you need to corespond with someone, write me at ***@****
I think what you are doing is very brave, and I know how hard it is. i've been there, and remember all to well. The good news is that there is light at the end of the tunnel and you are almost there. I don't know what to tell you about the chronic pain, but I did the same thing....detoxed shortly after back surgery because I was sick and tired of being addicted and also really wanted to know my true, unmedicated pain level. I found that even though I still have back pain, it is tolerable most of the time, and it is preferable than being a slave to chasing a little white pill.
Hang in there, know that we are all rooting for you.
love,
WW
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