Painkillers

[SimpsonFan]

I have a friend who has been experimenting with painkillers lately, mainly hydrocone, and some tylenol #3. I was wondering what the long term affects of codeine-based pain killers such as these? I know with the tylenol #3 the acetaminophen can cause liver problems but are there any other long term or short term affects of using these types of drugs for recreational purposes? My friend has no pain he just uses them for fun, and sometimes uses them when he drinks because he says he does not need to drink as much, are there any long/short term affects of this? And how long would it take for him to become addicted and not being able to stop without experiencing withdrawl symptoms. He uses I think ~50-200mg (around 50mg when he drinks and between 100-200mg when he doesn't drink with them) and only does it like 2-4 times per month. He weighs like 140 pounds (not sure if that is helpful or not). Could you give me a rough estimate as to the affects of this type of usage (I know it is different person to person but just a ballpark)? I think it just might be a phase he is going through because my friends, myself included, have all experimented with drugs a decent amount, but I am just curious as to the short/long term affects of this type of usage, and how long it would take him to become addicted. Thank you for any help you can give me! As a side note I have read many of the postings at this site and I think everyone who answers these questions are true saints, thank you for being here for those in need.

[cindi]

Thanks for you kindness,  I am still upset after hearing from Kerrie,  That just blew me away...I seem to take things so hard lately...anyway...I will pray for her...I have to take my daughter  Jenna to a skating party  after that around 8 or Si I'll hop on and send you some pics your way and you send me some my way..I love to see pics....I have an internet friend up around cleveland also.....talk to ya soon     Love ya   cin

[cindi]

Had to answer    Bad day today  cried alot with memories,,I am In Ohio  60 Miles SE of Cleveland  in between cleveland and Pittsburgh....nothing to do here   I am coming down to the sunshine state.....Happy anniversary anyway....I am coming up on my 8th   got married and had kids at 33....my hubby is 7 years younger than me  he is 33......We'll talk  LOL     Now for sure I gotta get the dye out.....Love to all  cin

[jennyfla]

Thank you Milo, that is so sweet.
I talked to my husband about this one time, and it really made him feel better about himself.  He was looking at himself as some kind of evil monster, and why wasn't he stronger and able to deal with this addiction.  I explained about the 'better people theory' and how 'sensitive people actually are able to live that much more', and it brough a sense of some sort of peace on his face.  It made me happy that i could in some strange way, actually talk about it as a 'plus' for a change!
Good luck to you too, I hope you get your dreams!
Lv Jenny

[Milo]

I really liked what you said about sensitive people and the toubles we have...I think you're exactly right. I worry about every little thing, while people who are doing all kinds of terrible things don't give it a second thought. A close friend, who knows me about as well as anyone, said the same thing...we feel things more deeply and have to adjust our lives accordingly.
I wish you the best with your situation. As different as our lives are, I know this is terribly hard for you. Just know you have one more person praying for you and wishing you well.
Milo

[jennyfla]

Awww sweetie, i know how you feel, i have days like that too!
I almost burst out in tears this morning, but was able to hold back.  I'm going down with my usage somewhat, and i feel some hidden emotions coming to the surface.
It's weird, i feel like i can know see the opening through to the other side, although still far off in the distance, but i can see it.
I took a bunch of the mag/zinc this morning, nearly choked to death, but i got them down, so let's see how they do.  I can feel alittle w/d coming on slowly, but let's see how bad it gets.  I think it's the alcohol that's my real drug of choice, so if i can beat that, i can beat anything.
Just give your kiddies a tight hug, and thank god for the things in life that you are thankful for!
I have a 1 yr old daughter, a 5 yr old son, and an 8 year old daughter (i swear she thinks she's a teenager), or and a 43 year old child too!  lol!!!
Today is my 15-year wedding anniversary, and i just want to cry my heart out because we are barely speaking right now.
The stresses and pressure are extradinary.  I want to get better, and he is living in a world of denial, so we are going in separate directions.  I don't know what's going to happen.
Well, now that i laid all of this on you, do you feel better?  lol!  Sorry, i get so self-involved sometimes.
Where do you live again, i forget exactly.
You're going to have your up days and your down days, but remember that the feeling doesn't last.  Find things that work for you to make it easier to deal with those times.  Focus on the good things in life, and the yucky feelings will pass.
Good luck sweetie and know that i'm hear to listen anytime you need me!
Lv Jenny

[cindi]

well , i just rolled out of bed and had some "mom" dreams,,,,yesterday was a bad day,,i started crying on my way to work and just kep thinking and crying all day...I wake up and come here and fell better with all of your nice words.Milo   you even cracked me up   ***** in CHURCH?   ROFLMAO.....never heard that one....off to work....thanks again to you both  love to all   cin.