****Please help me***

[NautyOne]

ok guys.  I have been on a taper since late july trying to take my dose less than the doc prescribed.  I was a 5 -5mg. vics since March of this year.  I tapered from 12 or more per day.  It's been a long suffer and I have just had enough of feeling like **** for months.  My question is ....as of the past week and a half I had been taking 6-7 per day.  I just got back from a 5 day trip from mexico.  I bought some 10 mg. vics.....about 50.  I took about 40 in a couple of days.......stupid, stupid, stupid.  It was my 10 year wedding anniversary and my birthday and I just got stupid.

My question is.......I haven't taken any since wednesday morning about 9 am.  I feel kind of crappy, no rls, a little nausea, and I have been sleeping because i have valium and soma which work wonders.  I am eating which i could never do before...so far.  It's now friday about 2 p.m.   because I took so many.  does it take longer to get out of your system?  I am sick but it is tolerable.......do you think its gonna get worse or will it all be out of my system by Sat. or Sun.  Is that when the physical wd/s subside when its out of the system.......I hear 72 hours.  am I considered on day three......I'm pretty drugged up on on the valium and soma.  I know about the mental, but is the physical going to end soon.  Prior to  March I had been taking darvon for about three or four years.......does that matter? Any help  would be appreciated.....I feel like ****.  I can deal with the way I feel now, but if it gets worse........i dunno.   Thanks everyone.

[Gogeyi]

Yes, recovery is a process.

I think you have had lots of advise on the physical.

I would like to challenge you to look into your self and ask yourself WHY you had the "freakout" as I like to call them.

The first thing that comes to you, (OTHER than I'm an addict, okay), go a bit deeper than that.  'Cause if you don't recognize why you did it, you will do it again.....

I realized that I freaked out on my B-day 'cause I was adopted and the heart remembers loss, even when the mind does not!

Realize that you answer may not come in words, but just a flash of a feeling.

I don't know if we are allowed to say this here, (forgive and educate me if that is the case), I will pray you find the answers.

Good Luck!

Gogeyi

[NautyOne]

thank you so much jen.  this is the first time c/t and I really do feel exactly what you are saying.  Thank you for you kind words.

Nauty...................

[jenny8575309]

The point isn't that you relapsed, it's that you haven't quit trying.  Recovery is a process, but I've found that each time I quit quitting, it gets easier and easier to use.  It's like your drug mind gets used to winning the battle of the angel and the devil on your shoulder, it gets used to having it's way, and it learns new sneaky tricks to make the angel shut up. Just keep trying Nauty, and keep posting.  Make up your mind to listen to the 'good' voice, the voice that says don't do it!

[NautyOne]

i totally agree with what you are saying.  Thank you for your input.  I am so glad u are feeling better.  I am on day four and dealing with it.  I agree I need to back off on the valium.......i think its making me feel a bit worse.  It's just not for me.  the first couple days it was a life saver, but now i feel its working against me.  the soma I still will take.  I take two at night when my nerve is really pinching.  I am having surgery soon to correct problem, because not only do i have pain, but I drop things, trip over my own feet.  My whole left side is giving out on me.  thanks again.

Luv,
Nauty..............

[NautyOne]

Thank u so much for your kind words. I know we had our differences in the past, but the fact that you would even post shows me that you are a kind and compassionate soul.  Thank you for the well wishes and helping me when i am in need .......which I never really asked until.now.  I thank you.  God bless........

Luv,
nauty.................<3

[GA Guy]

Hey Nauty..I don't have any great words of wisdom..Just wanted to say welcome back, and I'm praying for you and all you're going through. God speed you through this journey into recovery..

[FLaddict]

Aw thanks hun... that was sweet of you to say. When I see that my ladies need help its like a 6th sense to give whatever i can. Sometimes its hard to tell I am an only child..LOL

[NautyOne]

i asked about taking valerian and melatonin and  she said that is way to muchI told her at the time I was taking vicodin , so maybe thats why she didn't recommend it.  She gave me this whole print out, so maybe thats why.  It also says do not take with clonopin, valium, anti=depressents and so many other things......

luv,
nauty...............thanks again for all your help, and all the help you give to so many others.
and, dont ever forget how special you are.........God bless your heart.

[FLaddict]

That is crazy.. its highly recommend in that article i posted here about withdrawals and that is written by a doctor familiar with addiction. Plus my doctor told me to take it.  She is right it does help those people regulate their weird sleep schedules but it helps alot more people than that. When i was withdrawaling I took both Valerian and Melatonin and I slept fine the whole time and i still take melatonin 3 days a week. its a natural neuro-hormone. that is crazy she would say it isn't for you, doesn't hurt to try it.

[flmagi]

You may find once your past the bad withdrawls, That your "pain" is not as bad as you thought it was. When you use opiates, you stop the production of your own bodies natural pain killers. It only took about 5-6 days for mine to kick back in. I was amazed. I'm still amazed and so freaking happy. I agree with everyone, start coming off the valium and the muscle relaxers. By day 6 (?), you really shouldn't need them much. You may have good days then a bad day. The good days will come more often. See how your body (pain) really feels without the pills of any kind. Then if your really have serious legitimate pain, go from there. Just keep away from those opiates! Give yourself a chance to heal. Go easy on yourself.  Your almost over the hump, keep going. Good luck and stay strong!
Magi

[NautyOne]

I talked to my pharmacist and she says melatonin is not good for me.  She says its for peeps that have funky hours like swing shift.....work nights etc.  That it helps regulate sleep, but did suggest valerian root........so confusing.

Luv,
Nauty................

[NautyOne]

i know what your saying but I hate soma and valium.  they don't do it for me like the vic's so I am not to worried about them.  I only plan on using them for a short time.  the valium I really frigging hate.  the soma I only take in the evenings when I have a flare up with my pinched nerve.  I think once I get the vic's out of my system I can go back to skelaxin which is the best muscle relaxant in the world, but because of the vic's they give me a really bad rash, but they do work wonders.  I had a great time in Mexico......except for getting those damm pills.  if I ever had a problem with the soma.......I would welcome those withdrawals----which I have never had that problem.  I have been off them for months at a time with no problem.......so thats why i say that.  I dont abuse them like opiates.  No offense taken.  I appreciate your input.

Luv,
Nauty.........................

[lonote]

If you think somas are the lesser of the two evils talk with DebSal. Thinking like that won't keep you clean. I think like that also. I'm not saying you a bad person , so please don't misunderstand me. I also have somas and valiums. Is this the new thing the docs are giving out to ppl who have trouble with pain meds? My opinion, just as dangerous. I've gotten a few knods from the combo, and I take suboxone. Clean time? I can't claim any. Yes, I too am in a better place. But that kind of thinking the lesser of two evils, can get you into trouble. Happy Anniversary, and I hope you had a great time in Mexico.                  Cathy

[NautyOne]

Valium and soma are not my choice.........I hate them.  They will not be a problem for me , as i am just using them for the the witdrawals if I am even having them as bad.  I will only use he valium for 3-5 days and thats it.  The soma does work for my pain so It is definnitely the lesser of the evils.  you don't see too many people going to rehab for soma.....i don't think.    Thanks to all for your responses..........

luv,
Nauty..........<3

[FLaddict]

I also agree with B start to taper off of Soma and  valium tonight.. take a quarter less each day for the next couple days. and get some Melatonin to sleep and Calcium magnesium for muscle cramps and spasms

[sabrea]

I thought the same way, as far as taking so many one day and feeling like i need the same amount the next........but i really didnt feel that way. I think it all depends on your body and frame of mind. i was doing 2 vics the other day and finally thought to myself ive had enough and i dropped it down to one.
although the high amount that you took will have a strong affect on you because of so many mg in your system, taking the valuim would counter act the vics so that does help, thats good you have something to back you up or you would really be feeling like **** right now.  

Hang in there and sorry i couldnt give better advice......sabrea

[FLaddict]

Hey honey..I think you are ok.. At Day 3 you should be feeling really bad. I say if you get past tomorrow and it doesn't get worse you are past it.. you may have just gotten lucky hun..

XOXO

[IBKleen]

It's hard to tell because you are taking Valium and Soma.

Try and get off of those as soon as you can before you have another problem.

I'm sorry you feel so crumby....but think what you will feel like if you go back on the pain pills and have to do this again. If you want to stop, now would a good time...

Take care of yourself.