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Quick Question Please!! Oxycodone vs. Tylenol w/Codeine?? Please help?

Hi, i was wondering if anyone knew the differences between Oxycodone and Tylenol w/Codeine??  I know they both have acetomenophen.  But, the Tylenol with Codeine has Codeine obviously.  I was taking the one with 30mg. of codeine.  Now I have Oxycodone 7.5-325.  What is the opiad in this drug?  Is it also codeine, or a different drug?  I know my body's reaction to the T3, so I am a little nervous to try this new one....oxycodone.  Is it stronger, not as strong, the same???  I would really appreciate any help!  Thanks!!
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Hi Bell,
I think Tylenol 3 is a level 3 narcotic while Oxydodone is a level 2 narcotic. Meaning the Oxycodone is much stronger. Could be wrong, but someone here will know for sure.
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hi and welcome to the forum......the only thing i know about this is that oxcycodone is alot stronger than tylenol 3's.........if u have read any of the posts on herre then u knwo what im gonna say next  lol......stop b4 u start......but i dont know ur situation u may actually need them.......why r u taking meds if u dont mind my asking?
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Oxycodone is by far stronger and stays in your body longer. It is also harder to withdrawal from!
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Thanks for the responses!!  I have been taking T3 recreationally for about a year.  I take it for a few days, than off a few days, than back on.  I know I have a problem, but I cant do something about it right now.  I have too much other things to deal with.  I was recently hospitalized for a kidney infection which was the most painful experience of my life!  They first have me Morphine which gave me migraines.  Then I was on Dilaudid for a few days.  That helped greatly.  I went back to my doctor today cause the pain in my Kidney is coming back.  I haven't had to take meds for it till the past few days.  He gave me Oxycodone.  I have taken it a few times before, and I think i reacted well to it.  I unfortunately do need it for pain relief right now.  My infection may be back, or I may have a blockage in my kidney....all could cause the pain again.  Unfortunately it is the weekend, so I cannot get a CT scan till Monday to find out what is going on.  I am terrified of winding up in the hospital again.  But, because I use the T3, i know my tolerance is probably high.  I think I will start with 2 pills, and see how helpful it is.  Anyone have any ideas??  Any help is appreciated!  
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take exactly as prescribed.....i just wanna say this and i dont mean to sound mean and i know right now u need them for pain but    take them till u get better then stop please its for ur own good honey and it only gets worse.....this is something i wish i had done yrs ago.....trust me its a road u dont wanna travel......god bless u sweetie and i hope u feel better soon...kidney infections r the worst.....
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thanks so much for the comments....not mean at all.  kidney infections are the worst!!!!  ugh, the pain was unbelievable!!  And now that the pain is coming back....well to be honest I am terrified.  I have depression and anxiety issues as well....so that doesn't help!  and not to mention the stomach issues i am having from the antibiotics i was on in and after the hospital.  I have dropped 15 pounds in the past month.  not that i didnt want to loose some weight....but not this way!  i am just a mess right now!  thanks for your well wishes sweetie!!
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Going on an off the pain pills can cause anxiety and depression. Please keep reading on this forum. Get all the information you can on these pills and addiction.  Many of us here started our addictions with legit pain. It can sneak up on you. Be careful and I hope everything goes well with the kidney infection.  
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thanks for the comments.  i am in such a painful and scared place right now, so i took two pills.  i know that the drugs effect my depression and anxiety a lot.  i am pretty knowledgeable on my whole situation.  i too started out with the T3 for legit pain.  i get migraines and normal headaches a lot.  i have been to every specialist in new york city, and tried all the drugs possible.  i tried alternative medicine, acupuncture, etc...  nothing helped me!  i have been suffering migraines since puberty.  the T3 was the only thing that helped...thats how I started using it.  
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i also suffer from depression and anxiety ...my dr put me on a med called celexa and it is helping trmedously.....r u on any antidpressants? they sem to help....i just dont want to c u have a really bad addcition.......to be totally dependant on a pill is the worst thing eever.......
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thats so funny.  i am on celexa too.  i have been on it for years.  i have had anxiety and depression issues for about 15 years.  im only 30!!  i tried a lot of different drugs for my problems through the years.  some were awful...bad side affects, and some helped.  i am on celexa, and clonipin daily now.  it helps me a lot!  i have a shrink that i see regularly for these problems.  its a never ending battle for me.  my body is definitely addicted to these two drugs, but i may just wind up having to take them for the rest of my life.  then again, i cant take them if i ever want to have a child.  but i am nowhere near there yet.  

are you addicted to oxycodone?  i hope you dont mind my asking.  
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wow thats funny...well not funny but u know what i mean lol......the celexa seems to work for me so far no side effects......i was so grouchy i couldnt stand myself half the time......im just 32 and ive been on alot of meds for yrs...i am almost 3 months clean from an oxycontin habit......oxycontin is a very powerful drug......i started with percosets from injuries from a car accident and i just kept getting worse and worse really till they put me on oxy's........but im clean.....was hell but i did it....now staying clean is the hard part ive learned......i just dont want to c u do the same  thing i did and it can happen so quickly u dont even realize it ill u run out of pills and then u r sick and the u just use them to not get sick anymore....im sorry i fel like im preaching to ya.....
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Good for you girl!!!  You should be so proud of yourself for getting off the drugs!  really....you should always remember that!  how bad of an addiction did you have?  how many pills were you taking daily?  i dont know much about how much people take, or what they take, or street drugs.

i know that the times that i am not taking anything i feel down and the days seem to crawl by so slowly.  so, i know you must be struggling with staying off the pills.  how did you get off?  

the celexa is really helpful.  but it is also an addictive drug.  you cant just stop taking it without having serious withdrawal and possible seizures.  you have to wean yourself off it with the help of a doctor.  of course it is not as harmful as being addicted to narcotics though.  
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I understand Migraines, I have been getting them for the past 30 years or so. I've tried everything and it was the Migraines that got me addicted to pain meds. I am now on Suboxone to assist me in my Detox. YOu sounds knowledgeable and reasonable; but you also sound like you are justifying the Tylenol 3 popping. Not trying to get inyour grill, but reread what you wrote...ok. I just got off the phone with my wife and I read her your entry...she said exactly what I thought she would...she said, "that sounds like you sounded"...I said the exact same thing when taking the T3. I was taking it for years socially. Well, T3 got kind of boring after a while, and I moved up to Vicodin. Prior to my getting help (which by the way was just this past Monday, and I"ll tell you how I"m doing in a moment) I was up to taking 15 - 20 Norco a day, which is the equivelant of 30 to 40 regular vicotins. This rotten addiction just sneaks up on you and you never, ever see it coming until its too late. However, you do sense it coming, but guess what you do....you make excuses for taking it (just like you are doing now) and will continue to make excused because Migraines are hard on you...you will increase your dosage and you will soon think about something stronger...trust me, you will. I am so very sorry to hear about your kidney probs. I have no idea what that is like. I am saying this hopingyou will save this and print it off, and then revisit after you fix our Kidney problem. Mainly because you sound exactly like I did
How am I doing now? I am doing great. The LORD has lead me down the path I needed and life is starting to become brighter and more cheery. Each day is actually beginning to have a scent to it; we forget to breath and smell as we go thorugh life; at least, thats what the pills do, make you forget.
Regarding your MIgraines, I had the same probs, I went years going to different places trying to find a drug, method, program that would eradicate them for me. Nothing worked, until I tried the Imitrix Shot. Swear to you Bell, it works. Its not scary, not a big deal at all and its works. Please give it a try. The other med that I had luck with was Maxalt. My wife takes Maxalt and she does well with them.
I wish you teh very best Bell, I really do. I just really made me feel "bummed out" when I read your post and could relate to every single thing you said about the Migraines. GoodLuck Bell,
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thanks and i am very proud of myself...i forgot to tell u my husband was also an addict of the same drug which was oxycontin 80mg's anywhwere from 3 -5 sometimes 6 or more depending on the amount we had left.......was awful.....i quit cold turkey...was the only way i could do it.....to much of a tempttation to taper ...but i did it.....i feel so much better starting to fel human again......i'll probably always be on the celexa so i can say im not worried abot it being addictive but thatnks for the advice......i came off of lexapro once and i was fine but now i know i need the medicine for the rest of my life probably....i also take valium sometimes due to epilepsy to stop seizures or t help me sleep ....thats also another med i will be on for eternity lol......plus numerous others...im on like 4 or 5 different antiseizure drugs ......cant beleive my liver is ok...but it is...love u and god bless
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OMG....seems like you have been through so much.  the important thing is that you are still standing.  sometimes i feel like i will never get my life back...regarding my depression....sometimes manageable, and other times it just takes over.  but i am still standing too!  i wish you and your husband the best of luck...health and happiness!!  

PS...if you ever want to chat again....feel free to contact me on here!!
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Hi Mike, and thanks for your response.  I absolutely know that i have a problem.  no question!  and, i am not making any excuses or justifying taking the T3.  the only time it is justified is when i am in extreme pain.  but, i do take it other times...and that is beyond wrong!!

As far as the migraines go....i have tried imitrex oral, shots, maxalt, etc...  trust me when i say that i have tried everything!!  i have been to the best neurologists in Manhattan.., long Island, and one in London....costed me thousands to get to see the "best" migraine doctors.   There is nothing wrong with my brain...no tumors or anything.  basically my doctors are baffled.  thats when i started on the T3.  i was in a pain management program.  i stopped that cause i didnt want to take it so much even though i liked it.  i was scared of liking it.  so now i get a script every few weeks from my doc for it.  like i said above....i take it for a few days, then off, then on, etc...  i am not saying all this as an excuse at all....just explaining to you exactly what i am doing and taking right now.  it is wrong, it is unhealthy, and it could kill me.  i know all this.

my new issues...the kidney problem...well imagine the worst pain of your life....double it, and you will understand the kidney infection, and possible stone pain.  jeez, morphine didn't help the pain in the hospital.  so, the pain meds i am taking right now....right this moment are necessary unless i wanted to go back to the ER and have them give me Dilaudid again....which i hear is the most addictive of all these drugs.  i dont want to take that drug ever again.  im not saying one is better than the other, just that the doctors told me that the addiction to dilaudid is beyond anything i can imagine...and after taking it...i see why.  i dont have an option right now.  i must take something.      

thank you for your concern.  i am aware of how the addiction takes hold of you and can consume you.  i have felt those feelings at times.  not that i don't appreciate your writing me, and kind words.  i wish you the best of luck as well!!
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Hi, my name is Jaci.  I have been on oxycodone 5mg/350mg  for over 3 years now for herniated disc problems.  I dont feel addicted but I do feel I depend on them.  I take 3 or 4, sometimes on 2 a day.  I would never go over the amount the doctor gives me, but I am worried and want to get to a point that i dont need them.  Can anyone tell me if switching to Tylenol 3 would be a starting point in order to help myself stop?  Dont get me wrong sometimes I really have pain but sometimes i dont.  I feel so ashamed admitting that.

Any advice would be so greatly appreciated.

thanks, Jaci
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My first advice would be to copy your post onto a new one. (Post a Question button) Then you will have your own post others can answer. It is slow on here now. Tomorrow will have more activity.
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You should post a new question like advised above.  I just want to tell you not to be ashamed of admitting anything.  We are all flawed.  Some more than others, but no one is perfect.  I too started taking these meds for serious pain, and now have a problem with them.  I am and never have been a drug user...maybe a little experimentation in high school, but thats it.  I was always afraid of these kind of drugs.  You hear all about the overdoses and such!  What I am trying to say is that your body becomes physically addicted, and so does your mind...all without your control.  You are not a bad person because you are using this drug.  Don't ever think that!  Stay strong!!  
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Hi, need some advice please.  
I am addicted to OTC pain tablets and take upto 15/12mg codeine per day.
They are making me ill and I know I have to deal with this somehow.  Need some support as I live alone and am isolated.  
Can I slowly reduce my dose?  and how?
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I became addicted to Lortab (hydrocodone) 7.5, and was taking about 4 a day after a brutal assault where the man strangled me, beat my head against a wall, then the floor (knocking me out cold both times) raping me, and cutting me. The headaches were UNBEARABLE, and they did every test imaginable to find out what was causing them. Nothing showed up, and they called it "post-concussive syndrome" that can last for up to a year after the head trauma. I was basically bedridden for a year (I am only 47 now), and am just now over the headaches thanks to good friends, lots of prayer, and prayer groups. I got off of them with the help of my family physician who monitored me, and told me how to SLOWLY decrease the amount I was taking each day, and also prescribed Clonopin to ease the withdrawals. After a month, I was totally off of the Lortab, and Clonopin. I still feel tired and weak, but that is mostly due to the inactivity from a year in bed. She is giving me B-12 shots, and I am taking multi-vitamins, and that is helping quite a bit. Get bloodwork done to make sure you are not low on anything else (anemia, B-12, or other things), and take vitamins, but be sure to be under your doctor's care to de-tox. It isn't easy, but it isn't as hard as I thought it would be, and I feel so much better now. I pray allot, and thank God for what I have, and also ask him for strength. He will give you what you need- I will be praying for you, and wish you the best. Hang in there, you will make it too!
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I hated hydrocodone.  I don't know how anyone could become addicted, but I guess they can.  My doctor had me on them for over a year, and I could not wait to get off.  I am waiting to see a new doctor and can't wait because back pain is unbearable.  But the hydrocodone made me feel like I was walking around with an IV of caffein stuck in me all day and I could not sleep at night even with ambien.  Ruined my teeth from grinding all day.  Only wish it would have worked on me.  
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I've taken the oxys and #3s together. You feel almost no pain afterwards and very euphoric. I did take them recreationally I guess you can say, or in my mind for scientific purposes as I only do things like this once for future reference. As I said nothing bothers you much, physical or mental. There is a point though where you might want to vomit your brains out for a minute but the pain does fade. Definitely don't drive on these. If you must take them stay home cus you will get drowsy for a long time and the feeling of nausea will come hard once but soon leave. You don't wanna throw up on yourself then pass out while driving and wake up in jail for a DWI. I agree with anyone who says that using drugs as a main source of mental health improvement is bad. I don't care about the morality of it as much as I care about your reaction to yourself once you run out of the drug and you find yourself in a deep hole.
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ive recently had a fall,may have fracture my hip, my doctor prescribed me tylenol 3, i have no problem with acetaminaphen how ever the coedine is making me very sick, throwing up etc, pains my stomach, and i can still feel the pain in my hips, currently going for more exrays at a fracture clinic, booked by my doctor, would oxycodone with acetaminaphen help for the pain?
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I had a habit of 80-120 mg of Methadone and also about 20mg of xanax per day about 2 years ago. I became addicted to oxycontin after a sports injury to my back when I was 18. I had 2 seizures from the benzodiazipine w/d's and went into rapid detox w revia.  Those 3 days on rapid detox were the most paiful of my life. I was given librium so I would not go into covulsions during my detox, then spent 60 days in rehab. Do not play aroud with oxycodone or contin, take it as prescribed ad you should be ok as far as terrible w/d's. Methadone w/d's were much worse and even after rehab I went back to it, sadly. I was then itroduced to suboxone and got on that program, which worked extremely well. I have been sober for over a year, I have never bought i to the AA NA philosophy and I had my wisdom teeth removed, took oxycodone like I was supposed to and I didn't crave it or become re-addicted.
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I found a good psychologist that put me on medications I actually need, paxil, 4 mg of xanax(yes I used to abuse it but I actually do need it and I give it to someone in my household just in case), and ambien for sleep. I feel much better these days not carrying around the weight of opiode addiction.
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I know it has been years since this post. Wanted to let you know that 5 years ago some ******* put me on oxycodone.  Like everyone said, the addiction sneaked up one me. I just had my left kidney removed and a stone that had lodged in my lower urethra tube. Blocked off the kidney and destroyed it. They never could get the stone out of the scar tissue. this was probably something going on for a year. I HAD NO IDEA I HAD A KIDNEY STONE ON MY LEFT SIDE. I also had 4-6 stones in my right kidney when they finally found out this was going on.  I blame it on the oxy for masking the kidney stone pain. I took the oxy for arthritis that destroyed my knees. in 12 short days I will finally get the bilateral knee surgery that should have been done 5 years ago. I had no insurance and had to wait for medicare, I took the oxy to get me through until I could have my knees replaced.

Oxy was a necessary evil. But I will not let anyone give me oxy again. I hate the way it controlled me and that I could not control it. I hate the way it made me feel. I did not want to participate in life. It took my left kidney and I know it has damaged my liver, to what extent, I am affraid to know.
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i need to know how long 9 tylenol3 with codine will stay in systm i took five on monday four on tuesday please let me know just worried my pain from back and all nerves in neck are pinched and fibermiagl and ostoarthits and hip patn and degenertive disk desiesa and degenertiave verdabra desiesa but i need to know how long the tylenol will stays in system
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I am go, ing for back surgery to get a3leval spianal fusioƱ  I want to see what the dr. Is giving me he offered both tylonal3 and oxycodeon I'm researching I am afraid of getting hooked
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Yea but are you still on the suboxone?
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Hydrocodone does the same for me,one night a few weeks ago i took 2 ambiens and didnt sleep a wink,so my doctor switched me to an equivelent of what i was taking of the hydrocodone(8 10/325mg norcos a day) now on Oxycodone IR,i only need one pill,i can sleep again,no pain,no issues.No nausea or stomach issues that the norcos gave me,its a stronger drug but i have been through opiate withdrawal at least 5 times,the only time it was bad was when i was taking this past time before i got the oxycodone i was on the Norcos for 5 months taking the 8 a day everyday never more never less,but my physical symptoms only lasted 2 days,where as when i tried to stop my xanax to prove a point for 7 days,after 2 days i was having seizures and almost died,benzos are alot worse to withdraw from then opiates
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If you are having a spinal fusion done,you def wont get the pain relief ull need from tylenol 3 for a spinal fusion surgery,at the least you want Hydrocodone(vicodin,better off with Norcos though less tylenol) or the Oxycodone,if u take as prescribed you should be fine. Tylenol 3 dosent have the same pain relief as either hydrocodone or Oxycodone,Oxy being the strongest of the 3 being converted in Oxymorphone by the liver,hydrocodone is turned into Hydromorphone and Codeine into Morphine but the thing is only a small ammount of it. Tylenol 3 is prescribed for Mild to moderatly sever pain,while Oxycodone is prescribed for Moderate to Severe pain which a fusion,my Father had one a few years back,still in some pain but had to take the Oxycodones for 6 months just to walk daily and be able to move because of the pain,he was then on Norco 5/325mgs for a year every 2 weeks got a refill but he started to abuse them(his lack of judgement and addictive atttitude). Id tell your doctor youd rather have Oxy over Tylenol 3 for the fusion because Tylenol 3 would cause more chance of Nausea and less pain relief,but best bet is Hydrocodone and if you go that  route the norcos because they would damage your liver less with less APAP/Tylenol. Tylenol 3 is better for wisdom tooth removal,small surgeries or injuries,smaller issues,Hydrocodone is for most surgeries(they gave me Norco 5/325 for when I had my appendix removed),Oxycodone is usually for major surgeries and major pain or accidents. Depending on the fusion and how much of your back is getting done will determine whether or not you should go for the Hydro or Oxycodone,Tylenol 3 dont get for a fusion though,and Codeine is just as addictive as Hydro and Oxycodone if you abuse any drug it can be addictive. Everyone I know whos taken stuff exactally as the dr said has never become mentally addicted to any pills,just physically which when you withdrawal can be controlled sadly with other meds(usually benzos to help sleep,Immodium for stomach cramps,and Ibuprofen for the pain). Ive had a withdrawal from Hydrocodone 10/325mg taking them as i wanted for 5 months basically,so i would end up withdrawing 1 week away from a refill so id always go and get the refill again,but now that i switched to the Oxycodone IR 10MG i only need 1 at a time 4 times a day when i was prescribed 10 Norcos 10/325MG Norcos a day for my Herniated disk in my L0 causing colon issues and pushing the nerve that is making my left leg numb and give out sometimes,and im only 22 so i do not want surgery am trying to strengthen up my muscles and do physical therapy first. Tylenol 3 is most given by dentists because its the least to give you Euphoric effects compared to the other 2 so less people enjoy taking it. Personally Tylenol 3 made me very constipated when taking it as prescribed,and made me nauseas. Hydrocodone made me barely able to sleep,and made me look like i was bugged out my Mom said and also caused issues urinating,as the Oxy so far I have noticed nothing. If you can tolerate pain well and have an addictive personality choose the 3s,but if you dont abuse drugs then you should be fine taking the Oxys as you need them for a short while,just take them as prescribed and dont over do it. Thats how you become mentally addicted too,when you start to take more and more and enjoy the feeling. Before I stopped the Norco 10's I was taking at least 14-16 a day which is 200Mg over the daily limit for tylenol just when u take 14.Ive also on PLENTY of occasions taken over 4000MG of Tylenol/apap at onetime with regular Vicodins before,and had no liver damage or issues,some people never take over 1000Mg at once but that isnt true because my DR told me technically you can take 4,000MG at onetime as long as you dont take anymore for 24 hours,its just dont take more than 4,000MG of APAP/Tylenol in a day or u risk liver damage. Im just trying to help ya out,if u ever have more ?s email me ***@****,im very well knowledged about all drugs(well not cocaine,Heroine,PCP,or any of the hardcore street drugs,etc...) So basically Pain Pills,Benzos,Marijuana(all the different types,edibles,wax,lotions),most pills in general(mom is a Pharmacy Tech at Walgreens) When my sister had her wisdom teeth pulled recently they gave her the Tylenol 3,they also make Tylenol 4 which is 300mg APAP/60MG Codeine which you might want to try over the Oxy if you are worried about becoming mentally and physically addicted. But as I said if you take the Oxy just until your scar is healed basically,and then have your DR switch you to Norcos or Tylenol 3/4 you shouldnt become addicted. It took me a full 30 days taking the norco 10mgs as prescribed(back then it was 8 a day) for my body to have any withdrawal symptoms,but with Codeine i only took 20 of them within 2 weeks for a wisdom tooth extraction where my Jaw got a hairline fracture and I withdrew a hundred times worse that time and was constipated for the whole time i was taking them basically,I had to take Stool Softner to use the toilet while on Codeine,only minor constipation with the Oxy,in the middle with the hydrocodone,the Codeine and Hydrocodone also caused worse Urinary Retention problems made it harder to take a pee,the oxycodone is causing a little bit of that not as bad as either of those and a little issue with constipation but im able to go without taking anything for it now. It all depends on your past with drugs,how strong you are,how good you are with handling pain,and how much a fusion it is,my Dads was L1 to L7 i believe and he used to be an alcohol,do cocaine,and smokes weed alot so he already had an addictive personality so he started misusing the pain pills and now runs out of a 15 day supply of Norco 10/325s in 6 days,the quickest I ever went through a 15 day supply which was 120 tablets was 14 days,so 1 day early. But I have abused Codeine,Hydrocodone,and Oxycodone before when i was younger,and Xanax,Klonopin,and Valium all in my younger years till I got a DUI at 19 for THC in my blood. So I stopped abusing pills,it opened my eyes. Now I only take my pain pills and benzos as prescribed and needed,and my Dr alraedy told me he dosent see a point in my life where I wont be taking my Xanax,My anti-depressant(Effexor),my heartburn medicine(Protonix) and the med they put me on to sleep(Mirtazapine) I was on Ambien,read about it and said nope i want something that wont ruin my brain so they gave me something that can be taken daily without worries like that.Email me if you have and more questions about any of the meds,or if you to talk about them
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Alot of people stay on Suboxone and never get off of it once they start it,its meant for that,because Methadone is so much worse. Suboxen has changed 5 of my friends lives,and alot more people out there ive heard of. You probably asked because he mentioned hes on a Benzo also,which they dont like to do but if you have bad anxiety and you need the benzo they are fine with it most of the time,as long as you dont have any bad reactions right away. My friend has been on Klonopin for 2 years now was on .5mg for a year then switched to the 1MG still on that,and started Suboxen the Dr said just pay attention to your breathing because it can cause breathing issues,hes never had an issue. As long as you take it as prescribed you should be fine,I was on Suboxone(found some from a friend when i was withdrawal from Norco 10s) was taking my 2 2MG Xanax a day plus my 2 2MG Xanax XR pills a day and had no issues,and it was the 8/2 Suboxen also,only needed a quarter a strip at a time also to relieve all cravings and symptoms at that time. Now im off norcos for good,not abusing the Roxicodones because i dont want to get back to that point,im turning my life around,and im doing just fine. Dont take a Suboxen with a Xanax bar though then you might have an issue,usually they tell you to split taking them like 2 hours apart from the other,thats what they told 3 of my friends who are also on benzos with suboxone. Id get on suboxone if it wasnt more expensive than me going out and buying something id regret,even with insurance. Id rather take the 4 Roxis a day for 5$ a month than be paying 350$ a month for the suboxen even though it got rid of my cravings for everything(which was mainly weed my drug of choice,didnt even crave that) and my withdrawal symptoms right away,but it still has an opiate it in it which is Buprenorphine which is a Partial-Opiate Antagonist and also has Naloxen which blocks the opiate receptors,they also make Subutex which dosent have Naloxone.From me trying a subutex also for 2 days,it helped my back pain alot to be honest,and i had less side effects(itching,urinating problems,etc.)
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