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Savas..antidepressants..
My cousin has asked me to research antidepressants for him. He's 60 or so days clean from opiates and is still having high-moderate anxiety and depression. I told him he may need an antidepressant to kick start his brain "so to speak". Your comments in a previous posts mentioned more immediate acting antidepressants. Are you referring to TCA's like Elavil, SSRI's, or MAOI's? He said he will not take anything longer than 2 months and wants something with little side effects and a lesser chance of withdrawals. Just looking for your input..thanks in advance..
Ugh, I can't remember and I think I deleted the names out of disgust. I'll have to ask my wife, she may remember them.
Otherwise, LDN is low-dose-naltrexone therapy. I heard it was nalterxone and dismissed it out of hand at first. But it apparently works.
This is supposed to be done a month after you stopped using mind you (at least).
The dose is very low, and has to be mixed with a specific inactive ingredient to mix. When I last checked, there was only one pharmacy in the U.S. who would do it reliably. They specialize in it. I think it's supposed to be done for a week or two and I don't quite remember the mechanics, but I've got a link somewhere that describes it in detail.
Like I said, it's like a "system reset". The site explains it all logically. The suboxone board you're on has some people who actually did it on it. Do a search on LDN there and you'll see their threads on their successes.
Oh, a sure sign it works is that even though this is a totally legal drug, FDA has been stalling real approval of the procedure. The treatment is legal, but...I suppose anything that threatens the pharmaceutical lobbyists pockets will get them to use their clout to try to stop it. But the dose is much lower than the maximum allowed naltrexone dose...so they can only stall the research, not stop it. Hopefully.
Otherwise, LDN is low-dose-naltrexone therapy. I heard it was nalterxone and dismissed it out of hand at first. But it apparently works.
This is supposed to be done a month after you stopped using mind you (at least).
The dose is very low, and has to be mixed with a specific inactive ingredient to mix. When I last checked, there was only one pharmacy in the U.S. who would do it reliably. They specialize in it. I think it's supposed to be done for a week or two and I don't quite remember the mechanics, but I've got a link somewhere that describes it in detail.
Like I said, it's like a "system reset". The site explains it all logically. The suboxone board you're on has some people who actually did it on it. Do a search on LDN there and you'll see their threads on their successes.
Oh, a sure sign it works is that even though this is a totally legal drug, FDA has been stalling real approval of the procedure. The treatment is legal, but...I suppose anything that threatens the pharmaceutical lobbyists pockets will get them to use their clout to try to stop it. But the dose is much lower than the maximum allowed naltrexone dose...so they can only stall the research, not stop it. Hopefully.
what is this LDN your talking about...i must have missed your post on this...and also what are the names of the short terms meds for depression, i realize you cant get them anymore but i am curious...never even knew something like that exsisted...
Remember that they're all tailored differently. Some are designed to "give you energy" due to depression lethargy. Some are designed to calm you if you're hyper and anxious from depression.
I'm not sure if any of the short term med's for depression are on the market anymore. I found the names of one or two, but they're not actively made anymore. Med design has changed in such a scary way.
If this is opiate related (or not), have you considered the LDN I've been trumpeting lately? I keep getting a trickle of positive feed back on it. It does the opposite of what these med's do. It's supposed to be the equivalent of hitting the reset switch on the brain, so to speak. If it can cure a cancer patient of their depression...well...
I'm not sure if any of the short term med's for depression are on the market anymore. I found the names of one or two, but they're not actively made anymore. Med design has changed in such a scary way.
If this is opiate related (or not), have you considered the LDN I've been trumpeting lately? I keep getting a trickle of positive feed back on it. It does the opposite of what these med's do. It's supposed to be the equivalent of hitting the reset switch on the brain, so to speak. If it can cure a cancer patient of their depression...well...
yes i have heard the same about cymbalta working quicker...it also offers help to people who suffer from mild but chronic pain (like me with fibromyalgia) i have been on it twice now... the first time i started it i didnt like the way it made me feel, but i was still in active addiction too so i stopped it...i am now currently taking it again, and am in the process of stopping again...(only because i have a possible different diagnoses for my depression, unipolar depression, and they want to try me on mood stabilizers instead, because NOTHING has helped my depression since i was first diagnosed with depression at age 13..) but for your normal depression, anxiety (which i suffer GREATLY from) and also helps with the sleep pattern...i would recommend cymbalta over any other anti depressant...the only thing i noticed about getting off the cymbalta was a little dizziness and wierd feelings if i moved my eyes around too quickly...but i stopped quicker than you are supposed to. also IF she decides to try it...tell her the best way would for her to take it at night after dinner...it did kind of knock me out a bit, but felt fine the next day...
no need to feel like your being nosy...nothing you could ask would bother me...any more questions...just let me know...ok?
i have been diagnosed with severe depression (suicidal thoughts, the whole shabang, yahoooo) social and generalized anxiety disorder, agoraphobia with panic disorder, avoidant behavoir disorder, and fibromyalgia and everything that goes with that....i try not to complain about it as there are so many other people on this forum whose pain is severe...plus i have a high tolerance for pain...most people in my family do too, i just learned of this...LOL! just thought i would tell you all of this so maybe it may help with your cousins anxiety problem...cymbalta didnt do ENOUGH for ME...but that doesnt mean it wont work for her...if anything she should give it a try before any of the others...just my opinion though...
no need to feel like your being nosy...nothing you could ask would bother me...any more questions...just let me know...ok?
i have been diagnosed with severe depression (suicidal thoughts, the whole shabang, yahoooo) social and generalized anxiety disorder, agoraphobia with panic disorder, avoidant behavoir disorder, and fibromyalgia and everything that goes with that....i try not to complain about it as there are so many other people on this forum whose pain is severe...plus i have a high tolerance for pain...most people in my family do too, i just learned of this...LOL! just thought i would tell you all of this so maybe it may help with your cousins anxiety problem...cymbalta didnt do ENOUGH for ME...but that doesnt mean it wont work for her...if anything she should give it a try before any of the others...just my opinion though...
This post got me really thinking.... I've been on Zoloft (around 100 mg) for NINE YEARS... I never even thought about the long term effects. I have an appointment with my PCP friday. I will definitely be talking with her about this.
Just wondering why Cymbalta? Shannon, my cousin, has more anxiety issues than depression. I've read that some people felt Cymbalta within a week. Have you used it long term, short term? Did you have any trouble withdrawing from it? If I'm being nosey..tell me :)
there is no quick acting anti depressant that i am aware of and i have been on ALL of them at 1 point or another...and most take 3-6 weeks to actually work...this might not be something your cousin wants...if i HAD to pick one...i would pick cymbalta...
I've taken, in my life, 3 different antidepressants. The first was Zoloft, which had terrible sexual side effects. The second was Effexor, which gave me some funky feelings, and I discontinued it after a week. I actually had a week of wd's from it. The third was Wellbutrin, which gave me awful anxiety the first week, but after that was OK. I agree, short courses are the way to go. It just seems like every doctor wants to prescribe these things long term. I always thought they were used to jump start the brain, not as a crutch for the long haul. The problem is that all of the SSRI's say to give it a month to see results. I'm afraid that all of my research will be more confusing for my cousin than helpful. I don't think there is an antidepressant that seems acts fairly quickly and tends to be easier than the others to quit. He may be better off taking nothing.
I've been checking into this to, and they're pretty vague. I THINK the SSRI's are the best way to go...but... it does depend on the med you're dealing with. They all seem to treat seratonin levels specifically, which if done improperly can be dangerous, leaving you worse off when you stop taking them.
I'm on the fence on whether using them at all is a good idea. A good rule to go by is you pick one that will start having results immediately, and take it for a VERY short time (no adding a month to that time because it needs that long to work!!!).
They all leave you with the same problem in the end run (chemically induced state of euphoria due to external stimulation of the serotonin realted transmitters, take away the drug and...it's not a great place to be).
I'm no expert, though, I've done some research and didn't like any of what I saw; trying to figure out the lesser of evils here, so to speak.
I'm gonig on the theory that if I need one, it's going to be a problem down the road when I stop taking it...so the shorter perid of time I'm taking it, the less I'll suffer when I come off it. I can't say that's true...but you gotta have a working theory, right? :)
I'm on the fence on whether using them at all is a good idea. A good rule to go by is you pick one that will start having results immediately, and take it for a VERY short time (no adding a month to that time because it needs that long to work!!!).
They all leave you with the same problem in the end run (chemically induced state of euphoria due to external stimulation of the serotonin realted transmitters, take away the drug and...it's not a great place to be).
I'm no expert, though, I've done some research and didn't like any of what I saw; trying to figure out the lesser of evils here, so to speak.
I'm gonig on the theory that if I need one, it's going to be a problem down the road when I stop taking it...so the shorter perid of time I'm taking it, the less I'll suffer when I come off it. I can't say that's true...but you gotta have a working theory, right? :)
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