Thank you Tom for sharing your story. The thing I don't get is why someone would go on sub and then go thru withdrawals anyway. My impression was that the one's who do try sub is because they don't want to face the ugly. So, I think I am finally understanding the point of sub. It helps to change the behaviors of taking drugs, and gets your body used to not getting high, and allows your brain to function in a " normal " fashion. So sub is a conditioning program? Then I get confused again ......if someone is going the short term route.....then how does that work? Ugh. Well, I guess aftercare is a must in the short term detox.......I think I get it. If i am wrong.....please correct me. I'm just trying to understand. Like I said.........I hear of many going on the sub, but I don't hear the after stories too often.
Tom......Your the Bomb !!!!!!
Nauty.................
THANK YOU TOMM70!!!
honest feedback...love it!
For those that asked, I was on it for about 6 months. The dosage never got very high, as I was sick to my stomach much of the time.
Also, I am glad to be back on here! I have checked in now and again, but I am forever grateful to the support I felt from folks here.
As far as what drugs Sub is best is best for, that is always open for debate. I will never judge anyone for the decisions they make in life. An opiate is an opiate whether it be Vicodin or Heroin. Both of them can destroy your entire life. How you recover, is different in everyone.
I only intend to share my story. I know that if 100 people told their story on Sub, you would probably get 100 completely different versions. I just want everyone to know that Sub. itself is not a cure, and it does have it's downfalls along with everything else in life!
Some people have the thinking that Sub is the easy way out. It is a shame, but it is true. Sub. can and does work, I am living proof. I just want everyone to know it is not an easy road.
I totally respect the short term sub detox route, but what I think alot of people, or at least I'm looking for is the obession to go away. You know, I guess all doctors I've seen have been profited off of me, so I could really give a **** about one more if it means helping me recover in the long run. I kinda hear you on the vics, to me, those were always weak-but everyone's different. I've used vics to wean off of oxy before and it helped with the fiending. Like I told my doctor today, it's not the w/d's I'm afraid of because lately they've been mild, considering I've only been on a relapse for a month, but it was alot harder! The last time I was using for 8 months steadily. I'm looking for the maintenance plan.....why am I explaining this again? LOL.... I think I've already done this with you! anyhoo....♫ (whistling)♫ A short course and extensive aftercare is what's needed. I'll tell you what, if I knew that everytime I binged on pills I could crash on a cushy detox like sub, I'd probably keep relapsing and going back for more sub....I'm looking for a change for life! Not that I'm going to stay on it for life, hell 6 months I think is all I'm looking.
The censored part is revolutionhealth by the way.
I think it works better for someone like the poster who was hooked on done and oxy. I don't like docs who milk out a vicodin user for weeks or months while they profit. All that's needed is a short couse on sub and that's what a doc said here.