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Good morning guys, I can't believe how many questions have been posted in the last week or so, its great.. I'm glad to hear things are going so well for you groovy, well, you said you were busy so I'm assuming its on a good level. Keep your head up and stay strong, you just bought a new home, your living in a great area and you have a great family, i know you will continue to beat this.
Skipper I'm very glad to hear that your doing ok, i know your in pain but you have more determination than anyone I know..... Post when you get a chance
To everyone else stay strong because the only time new and exciting things happen is when your off the drugs..........
GWH
Skipper I'm very glad to hear that your doing ok, i know your in pain but you have more determination than anyone I know..... Post when you get a chance
To everyone else stay strong because the only time new and exciting things happen is when your off the drugs..........
GWH
Kava kava is a natural supplement and you can find it in any health food (or proabably even a drug) store. I have kava kava tea, which I like to drink at night. It is not very strong, but I think it does have relaxing qualities to it.
You can get clean and so can I. People are amazingly strong and you can accomplish anything that you put your mind to. Believe in yourself--or even at first, pretend you believe in yourself. After awhile, you will not have to pretend.
When I made the decision to quit doing heroin and cocaine years ago, and I made an honest effort to stop--things changed dramatically. Doors seemed to open for me that were always closed before and wonderful people helped me to hang tough through the really bad days. I realize now that those doors were always there--it was me who had to learn how to open them. The forum is an open door for you, pill hell, and every other suffering addict who comes here for comfort, hope and encouragement.
I'm sending you a couple special ones up tonight.
Best,
Alex
You can get clean and so can I. People are amazingly strong and you can accomplish anything that you put your mind to. Believe in yourself--or even at first, pretend you believe in yourself. After awhile, you will not have to pretend.
When I made the decision to quit doing heroin and cocaine years ago, and I made an honest effort to stop--things changed dramatically. Doors seemed to open for me that were always closed before and wonderful people helped me to hang tough through the really bad days. I realize now that those doors were always there--it was me who had to learn how to open them. The forum is an open door for you, pill hell, and every other suffering addict who comes here for comfort, hope and encouragement.
I'm sending you a couple special ones up tonight.
Best,
Alex
HEY YOU,
YOUR WORDS HAVE REALLY CHEERED ME UP.10 YEARS CLEAN-WOW.YOUR AN INSPIRATION.WHAT IS KAVA KAVA?I DO DRINK ALOT OF WATER,IT HELPS A LITTLE.I GOT IN THIS HELL WITH A LITTLE PILL,I GUESS I FIGURED I COULD GET OUT WITH ONE.HOW UTTERLY STUPID IS THAT.I REMEMBER ALWAYS TELLING MY FRIENDS TRYING TO GET CLEAN-JUST STOP.KNOW I NOW ITS NOT THAT EASY.ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.I DID GET CLEAN FOR A YEAR.YOU KNOW THE SINAREO.STAY STRONG,AND THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT.
YOUR WORDS HAVE REALLY CHEERED ME UP.10 YEARS CLEAN-WOW.YOUR AN INSPIRATION.WHAT IS KAVA KAVA?I DO DRINK ALOT OF WATER,IT HELPS A LITTLE.I GOT IN THIS HELL WITH A LITTLE PILL,I GUESS I FIGURED I COULD GET OUT WITH ONE.HOW UTTERLY STUPID IS THAT.I REMEMBER ALWAYS TELLING MY FRIENDS TRYING TO GET CLEAN-JUST STOP.KNOW I NOW ITS NOT THAT EASY.ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.I DID GET CLEAN FOR A YEAR.YOU KNOW THE SINAREO.STAY STRONG,AND THANKS FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT.
gwh: thanks--really, you have helped a lot of people on this board. When I first started looking at it--I mean, I really felt your pain! You were very real--and shoot from the hip and I do appreciate it. So, truce! I think you have a lot of guts.
pillhell: I understand what you are saying about being angry with yourself. You just can't believe how angry I was at MYSELF when I realized that I was dependent on pain medication after being clean for TEN YEARS!!!! Talk about pissed off. I hope your suffering ends soon and am sending a couple up for you (and for every other suffering addict in the world).
pillhell: I understand what you are saying about being angry with yourself. You just can't believe how angry I was at MYSELF when I realized that I was dependent on pain medication after being clean for TEN YEARS!!!! Talk about pissed off. I hope your suffering ends soon and am sending a couple up for you (and for every other suffering addict in the world).
I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING TO MY RESCUE.GIVE GWH SOME SLACK.I NOW BELIEVE HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE ME SEE THE LIGHT.YEA I WAS PISSED OFF AT FIRST BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO DWELL.THIS POST GETS ME THROUGH MORE TIMES THAN NOT.I WISH I WOULD HAVE FOUND IT WHEN I SWALLOWED MY FIRST PILL.IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE MADE ME STOP.IM JUST GLAD I HAVE IT NOW.
you are definitely right, however, I took offense to the fact that "AVATAR" was giving me a compliment, not PILLHELL, and you felt it necessary to rebut the compliment in regards to what I said to PILLHELL..........
But to be honest I don't know why I took offense to it, nor do I know why I sometimes take offense to anything else because It really shouldn't and usually never does bother me. I think its because of work. I'm in sales.............. It can get rough at times like any other job, so I guess I need to redirect my aggrevation so it further reflects on my job rather then on other people..........
DRUGS, they get in the way of everything.......... the last time I waited for something out of the ordinary to happen, the usual stuff got in the way............. I guess what I'm trying to say to everyone is live this moment to the fullest because you will never have it again.
GWH
But to be honest I don't know why I took offense to it, nor do I know why I sometimes take offense to anything else because It really shouldn't and usually never does bother me. I think its because of work. I'm in sales.............. It can get rough at times like any other job, so I guess I need to redirect my aggrevation so it further reflects on my job rather then on other people..........
DRUGS, they get in the way of everything.......... the last time I waited for something out of the ordinary to happen, the usual stuff got in the way............. I guess what I'm trying to say to everyone is live this moment to the fullest because you will never have it again.
GWH
Please don't read things into what I wrote that are most certainly not there. I said that it was a HUGE deal--a major accomplishment and of course, it is! All I am trying to say is that when I first posted here (the first week of July--around July 4, I think), you were just getting clean and I read your early posts of when you were just starting to get clean--it helped me a lot--I think you had about 10 days clean when I first happened upon this site. In any case, it wasn't that long ago! I just wanted to give you a gentle reminder that we are all struggling and that this applies to not only pill hell but to every other new person.
Ok, well I thought we were over this yesterday, especially when PILLHELL wrote, "GWH did nothing wrong" and that he/she understood what I was trying to say................. but I guess not. so let me say this again. WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT I CAN SEE MYSELF WHERE PILLHELL IS AND I WANT TO KNOCK SOME SENSE TO MYSELF, BUT OF COURSE HIND SIGHT IS 20/20. I NEVER ONCE SAID I'M OUT OF THE WOODS, NOR DO I THINK I AM, SO THANK YOUR FOR THE SOUND ADVICE IN TELLING ME THAT I HAVE NOT ACCOMPLISHED MUCH OF ANYTHING.
I don't know--I think your comment to Pill Hell was a little severe. I know from experience that 1 or 2 months clean are not really all that much. Drugs **** you up big time--it takes a long time to get over them. (I know--when you are clean a whole month it feels like years--and it is a HUGE deal--a major accomplishment). Personally, the lens was still pretty foggy even after 6 months clean. At 3 years clean I realized how ****** up I was when I was a year clean. At 8 years clean, I realized I still had a ways to go, so I stopped trying to be so judmental of others. We're all just struggling and hellbent is right--any one of us can start using again in a minute. We all need to have a lot of respect for the drugs we have taken. Only 15% of the population that goes into IN-Patient treatment stays clean for a whole year, so that means a lot of relapses. We could all end up back where we were, so it is best to remaine humble about where any of us are now.
wow, that made my day to hear you say that, do you mind telling me what post it was? I'm curious to know what I had said that would help you out of addiction...... I greatly appreciate your thanks because it's keeping me from using..........
GWH
GWH
i just want to thank you. I have been looking at this board for about 18 months. I am no clean for 7 weeks from a major oxycontin addiction (500-1000mgs) per day. I feel great now being clean and have my life back and during those dark days and hours many people on this board ( i single you out for a post you had a while ago that helped me tremedously) have helped me win the battle to this point. Thank you all
THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE ENCOURAGING WORDS.GWH DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG.I CAN NOW UNDERSTAND GWH COMENT.I GOT DEFENSIVE.JUST ANOTHER DRAWBACK OF ADDICTION.NOBODY SHOULD BE AFRAID TO SAY WHATS ON THEIR MIND AND IN THEIR HEART.PEACE TO ALL.MAY WE ALL KEEP ON KEEPIN' ON!!
I bet real soon, I will be able to post here clear-headed.
Sice I am taking Ativan and Klonipin, it sure does help with most of tht withdrawal. I have such a hard time focusing and can't eat or drink (only enough to swallow my pills for withdrawal) I don't feel hungry though. Just slept a day and thougt it was still yesterday. Is it working? Maybe. Can't tell I am in such a deep fog and depressiona all I want to sleep. Hopefully these meds I jusst took will kick in soon, so I can go back to bed. It's been since Friday. Am I anticipating another few days, weeks or months?
What are they trying to do by keeping me in a snowed state? Is there a purpose for this?
Appreciate any of your responses.
Koala
Sice I am taking Ativan and Klonipin, it sure does help with most of tht withdrawal. I have such a hard time focusing and can't eat or drink (only enough to swallow my pills for withdrawal) I don't feel hungry though. Just slept a day and thougt it was still yesterday. Is it working? Maybe. Can't tell I am in such a deep fog and depressiona all I want to sleep. Hopefully these meds I jusst took will kick in soon, so I can go back to bed. It's been since Friday. Am I anticipating another few days, weeks or months?
What are they trying to do by keeping me in a snowed state? Is there a purpose for this?
Appreciate any of your responses.
Koala
I HAVE REPLIED TO YOU EVERY TIME YOUVE WRITTEN ME.AS FAR AS THE SELF PITTY I ADMITTED THAT.YES I DO WANT TO KICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS.I'VE DONE THINGS TO TRY.YOU'VE NEVER SLIPPED BEFORE?I WONT BOTHER YOU ANYMORE.SORRY
You should reread my post, I said, all you have to do is keep trying, if you stumble you have to get back up and keep trying!!! I know its tough, trust me, I went through the EXACT same thing your going through. I thought Methadone was an act of god when I first tried it but all of a sudden, I was addicted to both....... I guess what I'm trying to say is, You have to keep trying all the time until it happens............
I've been where you're at, and it SUCKS! I also had killer ALCOHOL withdrawls to deal with (Along with the drugs later), and I had to check myself into re-hab. Don't let a little miscommunication **** you off... When I first came here, I would reply to people who were talking to me in whatever "String" I happened to be writing in that day... I pissed of a couple of posters too. Maybe you replied on different strings like I did? Anyway, we're all together in this ****, so don't let a few words get you down...
As for the REALLY shitty pary of withdrawls, I found that MASSIVE doses of KavaKava really helped me feel more relaxed. You can get it at any GNC, Walgreens, Etc....
Just keep posting, and it will help!
We love ya, and there's nothing you can do to change that!
Jess
As for the REALLY shitty pary of withdrawls, I found that MASSIVE doses of KavaKava really helped me feel more relaxed. You can get it at any GNC, Walgreens, Etc....
Just keep posting, and it will help!
We love ya, and there's nothing you can do to change that!
Jess
I HOPE IM NOT POSTING THIS IN THE WRONG SPOT.LOOK GWH,IM NOT PISSED OFF AT YOU.IM PISSED OFF AT MYSELF.NO HARD FEELINGS.
What Jessesarpy said, haha, sorry about the poor communication skills. I guess what I was trying to communicate was that I can look back at myself through you and I get so irritated because when your in the middle of trying to detox you can't see 2 feet in front of you but of course hind sight is always 20/20.........
You made me laugh SO HARD about your car. lolol. I have a kid who has a 69 mustang fast back....we are going to work on it as a family,,,,,hope ya don't meet up with HIM!! Hang in there, Jess, you're a great person, I can tell.
yo gwh and jess , you guys will be zipping by me, i drive a 99 ford escort station wagon,
being the addict that i am ,ive spent most of my life srruggling to be average . the station wagon is one of my attempts to be average, the good thing about it is , i bought
it used for 8000.00 it had 10,000 miles on when i bought it, i love it because it get great gas milage compared to the 8 cylender chevey impalas i used to own. plus i was able to pay cash, witch keeps the insurence down.
most of my NA freind have no driver licences, due to this or that.
pilhead we are all addicts, one of the problems addicts have is
feelig better than or less than others.
this type of outlook or approach seperates us from others.
sepration is one of the things that really hurts us deep down
inside. we need to see and treat other as equal's
setting aside our differences, like - AGE -RACE- RELIGION-
AMOUNT OF CLEAN TIME- LACK OF CLEAN TIME- HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE OR DONT HAVE-
the reason a fourm like this helps is because it gives people a chance to reach out and lend a helping hand to another.
so pill head keep coming back, try to find some people in your area that are staying clean and hang out with them, possibly
go to a na meeting or something,
and it is no big deal what gwh wrote, so what , it might not have been the perfect thing to write but we have to allow each
other and ourselves room to make a mistake.
keep posting
and keep on keeping on
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
being the addict that i am ,ive spent most of my life srruggling to be average . the station wagon is one of my attempts to be average, the good thing about it is , i bought
it used for 8000.00 it had 10,000 miles on when i bought it, i love it because it get great gas milage compared to the 8 cylender chevey impalas i used to own. plus i was able to pay cash, witch keeps the insurence down.
most of my NA freind have no driver licences, due to this or that.
pilhead we are all addicts, one of the problems addicts have is
feelig better than or less than others.
this type of outlook or approach seperates us from others.
sepration is one of the things that really hurts us deep down
inside. we need to see and treat other as equal's
setting aside our differences, like - AGE -RACE- RELIGION-
AMOUNT OF CLEAN TIME- LACK OF CLEAN TIME- HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE OR DONT HAVE-
the reason a fourm like this helps is because it gives people a chance to reach out and lend a helping hand to another.
so pill head keep coming back, try to find some people in your area that are staying clean and hang out with them, possibly
go to a na meeting or something,
and it is no big deal what gwh wrote, so what , it might not have been the perfect thing to write but we have to allow each
other and ourselves room to make a mistake.
keep posting
and keep on keeping on
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well,well,well-finally an easy car to beat,maybe I should travel down to where you are and we can have us a little rubber burning party..1976 stingray-450hp.-4bbl.- 0-60 in 4.2 seconds. of course I only get 6mpg. If I'm ever south I should look you up.if your ever north look me up!!
god bewith us all detoxong.
rhis is the worst physical thing I can EVER recall. My husband is incharge of my meds, so no cheating. I AM GOING THROUGH HELL.
I haven't eaten a thing. Can barely stomach the recipe. This is since Friday, with no relief. I've taken plenty fo hot baths...nothing is working. I am taking clonodine and lorazepam with no relier eitherQ
Help me please! I need you all's wisdom to catty mr through!
This is pure HELL!
Please respond,
Koala
rhis is the worst physical thing I can EVER recall. My husband is incharge of my meds, so no cheating. I AM GOING THROUGH HELL.
I haven't eaten a thing. Can barely stomach the recipe. This is since Friday, with no relief. I've taken plenty fo hot baths...nothing is working. I am taking clonodine and lorazepam with no relier eitherQ
Help me please! I need you all's wisdom to catty mr through!
This is pure HELL!
Please respond,
Koala
Hey there sista...
Hang in there....you are going to pull through this...Hey I have an idea....maybe just maybe the "drugs" you are getting right now are delaying...or making your withdrawls worse...by the way you are typing I am scared for you girly!! I don't know if your doc and your husband can help you in another way? I am so afraid for you....Someone...please give some info here!!! Koala...bear with it, I know someone will have some kinda clue to help you, 'cause you aren't doing so well my friend...I have faith in you...AND I WILL PREY FOR YOU TONIGHT.....Laters
Christine
Hang in there....you are going to pull through this...Hey I have an idea....maybe just maybe the "drugs" you are getting right now are delaying...or making your withdrawls worse...by the way you are typing I am scared for you girly!! I don't know if your doc and your husband can help you in another way? I am so afraid for you....Someone...please give some info here!!! Koala...bear with it, I know someone will have some kinda clue to help you, 'cause you aren't doing so well my friend...I have faith in you...AND I WILL PREY FOR YOU TONIGHT.....Laters
Christine
are you taking the 8 tablets of 500 mgs L-tyrosine all at once
along with the rest of the receipe.
i know i was reluctent to take 8 of anything when i was begining my detox, but i did hat was suggested and it really worked.
get somthing to take your mind off things good book or some good feeling movies like feild of dreams, ect.
it will be all right ,most of the insanity is in our heads when it come's to withdrawls.
i have been through and i know it seem like hell , but
time is on your side, tou will be ok
keep posting and venting
hope ypu feel as good as your doing
and your doing good.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
along with the rest of the receipe.
i know i was reluctent to take 8 of anything when i was begining my detox, but i did hat was suggested and it really worked.
get somthing to take your mind off things good book or some good feeling movies like feild of dreams, ect.
it will be all right ,most of the insanity is in our heads when it come's to withdrawls.
i have been through and i know it seem like hell , but
time is on your side, tou will be ok
keep posting and venting
hope ypu feel as good as your doing
and your doing good.
peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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