A lot of this that and...... Day 4?

[Vecci4u]

Guys,

I am not sure how to determine what stage I'm at, only reason is I am hoping this physical withdraw is about to lift. So on Wednesday I had 1.5 norco, thursday 1/4.... All this comming off my 7 .5 norco habit I tapered to for a week.... I mean Wednesday and Thursday naturally I felt like crap... Where am I in the process?

I feel a lot of anxiety but comes at bad time, my psych stopped prescribing I was taking around 0.5 - 1 mg klonopin for anxiety which I suffer from... But I think a big cause of the anxiety is just the withdraw every day until you stick your next dose in you.... So gonna try to get a appt with a family friend who is psychiatrist next week... Thank god there is doctors in the family... I so loved klonopin because I never could abuse it...

Right now I'm riding out Xanax to fight wd and anxiety but gettin low and popping 2-3 mg is not good... I don't want it , panic attacks are scary as hell though or social anxiety...

Thanks guys need your thaughts... Day started ok but has gotten rocky throughout... I did go to store with the wife for groceries and played a bit with daughter.... I just want the physical symptoms to go!!!!! And I'm scared if I don't get the klonopin the anxiety will continue.... Is our minds just so in the gutter at this stage?

[Shelly3577]

I'm sure!!  I hope you get relief soon!!

[Vecci4u]

Ohhhh the pill in the pocket.... All of us have pockets that could tell some crazy secrets ;)

[Shelly3577]

My first panic attack - I almost called the ambulance because I was convinced I was dying. That was 20 odd years ago. The antidepressant keeps it at bay, but it's right there at the surface just enough to make me uncomfortable. :(

[Shelly3577]

That's exactly what it feels like. I used to put some in my pocket everyday and I caught myself looking for them there today. I have had more cravings today than any day. I guess because the physical part is mostly over and not making me miserable anymore so my stupid head has to find something else to have a pity party over!!

[Vecci4u]

I can relate in everything you are saying... You are not alone. I have tried the antidepressants .... And still struggle with that anxiety demon and increased while stopping the pain meds.... I know I'm there...

You are like me I messed up my brain, I don't have my old anxiety med, my friend the pain med... But we know deep down the body is resilient and is gonna rebound... Our anxiety is a life long struggle to add to this mess.... I use to run to we thinking I had heart attacks, but we know whats happening... I bet you think you have or would get liver cancer with your pain med addiction? The health, social anxiety needs our attention by medical professionals... And a lot of them are not the right ones for us.... With our mind we need the right person

[Pat1956100]

Those feelings are perfectly normal.  I think the anxiety is our body screaming for pills.  It will get better.  I too have battled anxiety and panic attacks for years off and on.  Also coming off opiates is a similar feeling to grief.  I heard that from Dr. Drew on Celebrity Rehab.  We have lost our best friend.  Someone who we thought about every day and most of the day.  Someone we reached for first thing every morning.  We just need to realize it was a very abusive relationship and while it took us awhile to get out of it, we are doing it now.

[Shelly3577]

I have had issues with anxiety for years and have been on a few different antidepressants for it. I'm currently on Celexa for it and .25 Xanax but only as needed, which this week has been more. Ugh. That's what I'm scared of is that I've messed my brain up so bad that now I'll be at square one with the anxiety issues. I went out today for the first time since I quit hydros and I seemed as if I was on the verge of an attack all day. Not to mention being sad because I feel like I've lost someone (the pills) close to me.

[Vecci4u]

Hang you could not be more right... No question

I actually said even in the crap of wd I have to ration until I see this doctor.... Benzo"s are no joke, even the addict in me knows you cannot play with that fire....

So this will be rationed  going forward

[hangetsu]

You're overlooking an important point.

If your doctor had you on Klonopin for an extended period, cut you off and you're running low on Xanax you're looking at benzo withdrawals kicking in after you run out of Xanax. That's what I'd be worried about. Withdrawals from Hydrocodone are nothing compared to benzo withdrawals.

If it was me I'd be rationing the Xanax I had left till I could be seen by this new doctor you mention and would call to see if he could get me in before I ran out.

[Vecci4u]

Shelly did you suffer from anxiety pre opiate addiction? If so get to a psychiatrist as soon as you can.... I plan on telling my psychiatrist semi truth... I will tell them I don't want fast acting benzo like Xanax and on it.... And will ask for klonopin... The only reason I can specify what I want is the doctor is my wife's uncles best friend... But I do recommend it, it just doesn't seem to be something I pop and can get a rush,,.. Not a doctor just advice....

If your just experiencing the anxiety now during withdraw its gonna pass for you soon

[Vecci4u]

Omg... How right you are the sweat..... Every day my shirt smells so nasty.... I mean I take a shower put on deodorant and 1 hour later I smell...

The sweat is unreal anyone know medically what the body is producing it for in such excess?

[Pat1956100]

I used it for both.  When I felt a little anxiety I would take a couple of melatonin and it worked for me..  I needed about 6 to get some sleep though.
It just seemed to relax me and take away the anxiety.

[Shelly3577]

I'm on day 4 as well and my physical wds are almost gone, but the anxiety and depression are hitting me, too. :( I can relate and am interested in suggestions.

[On2better]

You know what really helped my anxiety? I took propranolol, which is an old school beta blocker (blood pressure med). I never felt panicky or horrible RLS. Took immodium for abdominal issues. My worst symptoms were fatigue, depression, and SWEAT... Oh god the sweat. anyways, I like the propranolol because there is no risk for addiction, so it's much safer than a benzo for me. And it didn't put me in a fog like benzos. I just tapered off and by day 7 didn't need it.

You are definitely in the throes of wd :( I'm not sure with your taper how long this will last. Hopefully you'll get over the hump today. Don't overdo it. I tried to do too much with my kids and husband those first few days and it just made the anxiety worse. Curl up on the couch with a good book or old comedy and just ride it out. You're well on your way. congratulations! Hugs

[Vecci4u]

Pat you are using melatonin during the day or for sleep?

[Pat1956100]

I have a ton of anxiety and have found melatonin to really help.  I am prescribed ativan but don't have any right now.  I have heard valerian root really helps with anxiety as well.  Both should be available at any drug store.
Hang in there.  I know how rough anxiety is.

[mary577]

I don't know much about anxiety....the only anxiety I had was the first day or so.   I always got panicky if I didn't take hydros.   I just remember a general feeling of crap.   Hoping it gets better for you....hang in there....you should be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel soon.....and of course, we are always praying it isn't an on coming train.   Breathe and try to keep yourself occupied so you don't dwell on it.   Sounds like you are doing good otherwise.

[Vecci4u]

I am in the depth of wd for sure I can feel it... My only difference this time is I am taking immodium which has kept things there very well and hydrating... So not having the dizzy spells.

Also eating normal my appetite is just fine, no vomiting... Just the feel of the flu, achy, agitated, and very anxious for which I had better mwd before, yuck