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[heatbrokenmom427724]

Hi there, have another question, James seen the doctor yesterday pschyatrist, he is not bi polar but is very depressed, and grieving about the miscarriage, the doctor has increased his meds, added lithium. Ok here what I am wondering, doc said he thinks James should go on methadone which James is not thrilled with, or another drug subatol or something sorry do not remember the name its still a narcotic but legal they can write him a script for it and he would not have to depend on the metth, also 45 minute drive from his home, anyway has anyone ever heard of this med, sorry bout the name, He has a  alright week, tuff but clean 11 days clean but struggles grately finds himself going to bed early if he can sleep and says well another day clean,hopefully rehab will not be long. Have a super day.

[heatbrokenmom427724]

Hi there, he is going to meetings not as many as he should he has a sponsor and his sponsor keps on him, he is getting about 5 a week will be speaking next thursday, here todayu working on some motors spirits seem good, slept better and 26 days clean today,the dr, has prescribed  increased his deppression meds and some lithium to increase the liver function and absorb the meds quicker, today he is somewhat James,all we can ask for is one day at a time told him no more babysitting him as he says this is his haven when not at home told him always welcome here but am not going to babysit him big enough to go and do what he needs to do by himself, this has been the most difficut thing Paul and I have ever had to deal with and never thought it would happen to us , but hey could be alot worse I do believe James wants to stay clean tis time realizs he has alot to loose, his councillor s back tuesday he is so upset with her  but he wil look into out patient rehab as he has a month before his new job starts have a super day stay warm its chilly here today burghh Cindy

[vicki595]

Check into an outpatient rehab in your area. They can be very good. Also, he could go to AA and attend a meeting everyday.

Yes. He still needs rehab and really should be taking all the initiative himself. He needs to make the phone calls etc...He could see a therapist privately...

It's great that he has some clean time built up!

[heatbrokenmom427724]

  morning all, well its friday and James is suppose to go to rehab on monday, but low and behold there are no beds for him his councilor was suppose to fax over the papers while she was on holiday low and behold not done therfore no bed, am so frustrated he is not going in he is 23 24 days clean, do you really think he needs rehab at this point is it possible to do this on his own,Am so discouraged and tired of being a babysitter to him how the hell do I get this out of my head and continue with our life, do I just let things turn out as they may ???it consumes me,family menbers said he would never go and I know what lis ahead told you so do n t need this doggie doo, will have o step us and tell them need them with us not against us, why is it we stick up for our kids no matter what.

[heatbrokenmom427724]

Hi there do you mean the very first time I posted a question????? if so I will no James is not going to take meds he made the descision not to, he is going into rehad on monday and quite ready for it he has been clean 21 days today.He says he is tired and enough is enough needs to clean up has so much in life house wife everything he could want so now its time to get clean for myself and my family, things are positive we r seeing some improvement in his withdrawls, beter every day,off to spend the day with him and Steph taking them out for the day change of scenary will keep in touch, please let me know what site is it the site where i want to ask a question have a good day mom

[heatbrokenmom427724]

Hi there, James is 21 days clean today, and we are seeing a wee change, he is not going to take any drugs,he says he is tired now and has had enough time to grow up, he is looking forward to rehab on monday believe it or not, and got the new job he applied for excellant pay, medical benefits,so he starts sept  17 that worked out well as he will be out of rehad  on the 10th or 11th, kep telling him god is on your side but just give hima chance. Will keep you posted as the weekprogresses we are going out today with he and Steph treating them to a day downtown ottawa,see th changing of the gaurds and do the tourisit thing,Momxo

[hangetsu]

If he goes on the Methadone Maintenance Treatment he'll be trading whatever addiction he currently has for one much worse and much harder to break. It will be a millstone around his neck and in the end will probably have to go on Suboxone, which is even stronger, to get off it.

IMO he is much better off paying his dues now and going though whatever trials and tribulations he's going though than what I've outlined above. He may think he has it bad now but he has no idea how bad it can really get.

[weaver71]

For the most part, I agree with the above, but do not know exact details of James' state. I've been following your post. Last time James had been clean two months, now you say 11 days clean. Did he relapse or is he finally getting honest? No judgement, just wondering how he is really doing. If he relapsed and is suicidal, a short stay on suboxone will stop craving, make him feel "normal" and avoid relapse on his drug of choice until he gets to rehab. Suboxone has an opiate agonist called nalaxone that prevents abuse and bupenophrine which blocks all other opiates from having any effect. The problem is, doctors do not use suboxone that way. They may want him on it for long term and send him home a new kind of addict. I don't know how they use it in Canada. I would say, for me, the 16 days I used subs saved my life. Anyway it's better than suicide, but he will still have to go through physical withdrawal. Read the suboxone/subutex FAQs at the bottom of the page and ask the doctor what his intentions are. Methadone is my drug of choice and almost killed me, so I am a little biased, though I know it has its appropriate use. I am not giving advice and cannot, but am encouraging you to educate yourself. Only you know all of your circumstance and can make an educated decision. Thank you for helping your son. Good luck and keep us posted.

[vicki595]

I agree with above!! Going on methadone or Suboxone is poor advice. At 11days clean he's already through detox. What he needs now is rehab...not a new drug!!   Please know that these drugs are HUGE money makers...and he doesn't need them now.

Keep in touch!

[ready4mylifeback]

i just wanted to say first that if u have another question u can put it on the same thread u started because there are SOOO many people posting and if someone reads this they may not have a clue about your story or may have forgotten so just post the new question on same thread trust me i made the mistake of doing a new one too and everyone was so confused.. i had to re tell my story a 100 times lol.. he is clean 11 days NO WAY PLEASE DO NOT let them put him on methadone OR suboxen..(sp?) he will have HORRIABLE w d from that too.. just have him ride this out the rest of the way he should be making a major turn around SOON... tell him great job on the 11 days one day at a time is all we have so saying "another clean day" is FABULOUS!!! keep helping him anyway u can as long as he is staying clean... prayers are with him and you... i also lost a baby at 13 weeks then 3 mo later got pregnant and we lost that one at 14 weeks both my husband and i had a TERRIABLE time w it but found our strength in God to get through it we now have a beautiful boy 19 mo and a little girl 6 mo:) dr's said i can't even have babies HA.. God said different.. i know miscarriages are VERY hard i was in the 2nd trimester and already very attached myhusband could not even grieve because he was helping me not completely loose my mind and fall apart it just about killed me:( i would have him talk to a counsler psych dr's will ALWAYS push meds but he will have to get off those eventually too and then be back at square 1 w the w d... if u do some reading u will see how bad methadone and sub is PLEASE PLEASE don't let him take them esp if he already has 11 days clean it will set him back BIG TIME:(