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Finding a rehab

Where is the best resource for finding a good, but affordable rehab center.  My daughter is in the process of detoxing from orlaam, but says she feels that she will need to go to an in-house rehab center.  

She is 29 years old, married about 3 years ago.  Unknown to her, her husband was on drugs. After being unable to convince him to get off the drugs, she became extremely depressed and got on the drugs herself.  After a year on Lortab, she left her husband, went into hospital for 3 days to detox and then went to methadone clinic. She divorced her husband, and moved out of town to get away from him and the local drug scene. She lost her job (social worker) because she could not function during the time before she went into the hospital.

She was on methadone for about 6 months, then switched to orlaam. She now has no insurance and has not been able to get a good job because of her past problems and being tied to the clinic.  

How do you find help in this situation?
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Finding a rehab is really tough because so much of the material you see online is just sales-speak.  They want your money and aren't interested if they can really help you with your individual situation.

If you're searching for a rehab make sure you research the features that are offered at different facilities, decide which of those features are important to you, find the options that fit your needs and then get a list of questions ready to ask the facilities you contact.  You should speak to several facilities and make sure they actually answer your questions.  Good luck!
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WHAT CAN I SAY, THEY R ALL CORRECT AND SAID SO WELL! THE MEDICADE THING IS A GREAT IDEA! GOD BLESS U AND ALL THE LUCK IN THE WORLD=)
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jennyfla -
i live in florida too. can you please tell me the name of the rehab and its location that only costs $1500? Are there more than one? i have searched high and low and came up with nothing that affordable!
gratefully,
tgirl
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Your very welcome.  I read that every morning.  I am still on 3 per day and am feeling much better.   The discomfort (anxiety, depression, bone aches) were minimal yesterday and non-existent today.  So the good news is, your body really does recover if you give it a chance.  I will stay on 3 lorcets for another few days then cut it to 2 (one every 12 hours).  Good luck to you and your husband.  Love, Maryanne
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That's wonderful Maryann!!!!  I'm going to be heading down that tapering path with loracets real soon, i must be perfectly clean by the time my husband gets home.  What is standing in my way right now, my addiction, and we've been fighting it out all week together, and so far addiction is winning.  But i'm going to get smarter and smarter, and i will find a way to get the upper edge on addiction.  
My husband said if he finds any meds in the house when her returns, they are getting flushed down the old T-bowl.
A picture of that i'd have to have!!!!!!!!  My husband is addict through and through, and i never thought i'd see the day where the shoe was on the other foot, but this addiction caught up to me, hard, just like he warned me!  :(
Good luck to you, you sound like you are on the right track!
Lv Jenny
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I thank you too, for those words, they are wonderfully written.
I copied it for myself, and also made a copy for my husband and sent it to him in his little care package to his rehab!
Good luck to you, and know that we are here to support you during your darkest moments.  
Lv Jenny
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Sorry, I made an error on the name of the center in Connecticut - it is Mountainside (not Mountainview).

Has anyone heard of this center?
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I am still following my schedule.  I am still on 3 lorcets per day (it is controlling my pain and keeping withdraw at bay).  I am having a hard time with depression though.  The last 3 hours before my 2nd dose is hardest.  Today I am getting on this treadmill no matter what.  I know that will help.  If the exercise doesn't help, then I am willing to call my doc for some Paxil.  I took it for like 4 - 6 months for postpartum depression with great results 5 years ago.  Maybe I'll just need it to get me through the depression for now and then can discontinue it when I don't need it anymore.  I cried alot yesterday - really missing my father - he was the rock of our family and had a heart attack at 61 a few years ago.  He left behind 8 children and my Mom.  None of us have ever really gotten over it.  I am the youngest and was especially close to him.  He ALWAYS was the one I turned to when I needed guidance.  Got me to thinking last night - I don't want my son to suffer without his Mommy because of my drug addiction. Thanks for listening everyone.  I am stuck in this house 12 hours per day (home care case) 5 days per week and the internet has really saved me.  Reading all your posts and all the great support links I've been reading has helped me SO much.  Thanks for listening everyone, I really feel like I know you all.  Love, Maryanne
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The Awakening

A time comes in your life when you finally get it.  When in the mist of all your fears and your insanity you stop dead in your tracks and the voice inside your head cries out - ENOUGH.  Enough crying and fighting or struggling to hold on. And, like a child calming down after a blind tantrum, your sobs begin to subside, you shudder once or twice, you blink back your tears and through a mantle of wet lashes you begin to look at the world through new eyes.  This is your Awakening.

You realize that it's time to stop hoping and waiting for something to change, or for happiness to come galloping over the next horizon.  Your come to terms with the fact that he is not Prince Charming and you are not Cinderella and that in the real world there are not always fairy tale endings (or beginnings for that matter. And that any guarantee of "happily ever after" must begin with YOU, and in the process a sense of serenity is born of acceptance.

You awaken to the fact that you are not perfect, and that not everyone will always love, appreciate, or approve of who or what you are and it's OK (they are entitled to their own view and opinions).  And you learn the importance of loving and championing yourself, and in the process a  sense of newly found confidence is born of self approval.

You stop bitching and blaming other people for what they did to you (or didn't do for you) and you learn that the only thing you can really count on is the unexpected.  You learn that not everyone will always be there for you and that it's not always about you.  So, you learn to stand on your own and to take care of yourself and in the process a sense of safety and security is born of self-reliance.

You stop judging and pointing fingers and you begin to accept people as they are, and to over look their shortcomings and human frailties and in the process a sense of peace and contentment is born of forgiveness.

You realize that much of the way you view yourself, and the world around you, is the result of all the messages and opinions that have been ingrained into your psyche. And you begin to sift through all the **** you've been fed about how you should behave, how you should look, how much you shouldn't weigh, what you should wear, where you should shop, what you should drive, how and where you should live, what you should do for a living, who you should sleep with, who you should marry, what you should expect from a marriage, the importance of having and raising children, or what you owe your parents.

You learn to open up to new worlds and different points of view.  And you begin reassessing who you are and what you really stand for.  You learn the difference between wanting and needing, and you begin to discard the doctrines and values you've outgrown, or should never have bought into to begin with, and in the process, you learn to go by your instincts.  You learn to distinguish between guilt and responsibility, and the importance of setting boundaries and leaning to saying NO.  You learn that the only cross to bear is the one you choose to carry and that martyrs get burned at the stake.

Then you learn about love, romantic love and familial love.  How to love, how much to give in love, when to stop giving, and when to walk away. You learn not to project your needs or your feelings onto a relationship.  You learn that you will not be more beautiful, more intelligent, more lovable or more important because of the man or woman on your arm, or the child that bears your name.  

You learn to look at relationships as they really are and not as you would have them be.  You stop trying to control people, situations and outcomes.  You learn that just as people grow and change, so it is with love and you don't have the right to demand love on your terms, just to make you happy.  And you learn that alone does not mean lonely.

And you look in the mirror and come to terms that you will never be a size 5 or a perfect 10 and you stop trying to compete with the image inside your head, and how you "stack up".  You also stop working so hard at putting feelings aside, smoothing things over, and ignoring your needs.

You learn that feelings of entitlement are perfectly OK...that it is your right to want things that you want and that sometimes it is necessary to make demands.  You come to the realization that you deserve to be treated with love, kindness, sensitivity and respect and you will not settle for less.  And you allow only the hands of a lover that cherishes you, to glorify you with his or her touch and in the process, you internalize the meaning of self-respect.

And you learn that your body really is your temple.  You begin eating a balanced diet, drinking more water, and taking more time to exercise. You learn that fatigue diminishes the spirit and can create doubt and fear, so you take more time to rest. And just as food fuels the body, laughter fuels our soul, so you take time to laugh and to play.  






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The Awakening continued:

You learn that for the most part in life, you get what you believe you deserve, and that life is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You learn that anything worth achieving is worth working for, and that wishing for something to happen is different from working toward making it happen. More importantly, you learn that in order to achive success, you need direction, discipline and perserverance.

You also learn that noone can do it alone and that it's OK to risk asking for help.  You learn that the only thing you must truly fear is the great baron robber of all time:  FEAR itself.  You learn to step right into it and through your fears, because you know that whatever happens, you can handle it and to give into fear is to give into the right to live life on your terms.

You learn to fight for your life and not to live it squandering under a cloud of impending doom.  You learn that life isn't always fair, you don't always get what you think you deserve and that sometimes bad things happen to good, unsuspecting people.  On these occassions, you learn not to personalize things.  You learn that God, or your Higher Power is not punishing you or failing to answer your prayers.  It's just life happening.  And you learn to deal with evil at it's most primal state - the ego.

You learn that negative feelings such as anger, envy and resentment must be understood and redirected or they will suffocate the life out of you and poison the universe that surrounds you.  You learn to admit when you are wrong and build bridges instead of walls.  You learn to be thankful and take comfort in many of the simple things you take for granted, things that millions of people on the earth can only dream about: a full refridgerator, clean running water, a soft warm bed, a long hot shower.  Slowly, you start to take responsibilty for yourself, by yourself, and you try to make a yourself a promise to never betray yourself and never, ever settle for less than your heart's desire. And you hang a windchime outside your window so you can listen to the wind.  And you make a point to keep smiling, keep trusting, and to stay open to every wonderful possibility.

Finally, with courage in your heart, and your higher power by your side, you take a stand, you take a deep breath, and you begin, as best as you can to design the life you want to live.

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PS  I hope this helps everyone as much as it has helped me.  Sorry about posting it in two separate posts but I accidentally hit the "submit" button before I was done typing.  Love, Maryanne





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Thank you all for your help and encouragement.  It's not easy finding the right type treatment facility.

Even thought it would be quite a distance, I saw some information on a treatment center called Mountainview in Connecticut.  Does anyone know anything about this center?  The cost is reasonable, but I have not found much about it other than on their own website.  Is there somewhere you can contact to find out if it is a good center?

Any help would be appreciated.

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sorry to interrup the thread but I did hear from Kerrie  she has been pretty ill.....she seems to be doing better but please  and I know you will keep her in your prayers    love cin
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Maryanne, I just wanted to thank you for sharing that writing with us. It was very deep and meaningful, addressing many issues that we all, addicts and non-addicts alike, have to overcome in our lives. Good luck with your tapering. I'll keep you in my prayers.
Power & Magick 2U,
Peace & Light on us all,
Wizard
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Thanks for sharing that wil us...Good luck to you,,, I know what you mean about missing your dad...I have those "mom" days alot...you can do this...what about the BUP,, I may have missed something somewhere but weren't you going to try and see the good doc again?  let me know how thigs are going for you..love               cin
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The first is the web site for the America Society for Addiction medicine. You can look under membership to verify medical credentials of potential care providers.

http://www.asam.org/

The easiest way to find numbers and meetings and answers in general (all free):

http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/

Good Luck.

Thomas
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Call your local DSHS office and inquire about the Adatsa program. It is designed to get help for addicts who cannot afford to pay on own. You can also check it out on the web by typing in DSHS as keyword then scroll to ADATSA programs. Since your daughter is unemployed, she should qualify. I have also heard that the non profit rehabs are more effective than many of the for profit ones. You might look on the web for non profit  rehabs. The big name one in my area charges about $9000. The non profit charges about $3500 and is is reputed to be more effective. Good luck. I am still waiting for my son to agree to rehab.
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You have certainly been doused with a slew of wonderful advice from all these people,,and like wiz, I read your post yesterday but had to think and think....Like Maryann suggested (Hi Mar) Medicaid is a good start and in the state where I live some of these rehab centers had "welfare beds" held strictly for those on medicaid..I had to do the medicaid gig myself,,,,I am also what is called an "impaired" nurse and left the profession voluntarily.....a year after I left I was on medicaid while I was pregnant...even though my husband had insurance he didn't make a whole lot of money so to supplement my first insurance They allowed me the medical card....if you are thinking about private pay..maybe  3 or 4 day inpatient detox would be affordable followed by an intensive outpatient....that the state would pick up the tab for..I also have experience with that....about 5 years clean I relapsed and i did the intensive outpatient....they filed out papers,,,I had not card or insurance at the time) and the County or the state picked up the tab...there are ways...do you have a number to call for addi tion services/  pick up the ohone call a treatment center and see what they say about the services the state provides...It woun't hurt...now,  please, can I address the issue of your daughter being embarrassed?  I understand how that can be...I had been "popped" for theft etc...12 felony charges, the works,, I made the newspaper, and the news....I was a nurse in a large hospital and everyone In the city saw me on TV  Or at least I thought they did...My dad was police officer and my mom was a big "thing" in management at the hosiptal....my aunt was very high society with this huge reputation to protect..or so I thought they cared...my employers were more than understanding, so was my family,after they settled down and the only thing they cared about was my well being....I was afraid, and totally ashamed of who I had become.....and I tell this frequently on this forum because so many people are ashamed of the stigma and stereotyping that goes with addiction and alcoholism....my mom passed away this past christmas....she taught me many many things,,and I carry her words in my heart everyday,,,and in my life,,the one thing she taught me was to hold me head up high, look them in the eyes and never be ashamed of who I am...everyone has skeletons....your daughter will not understand this yet...but she will in time...please,  ask her to come to this forum with you...the both of you will get alot of great advice and support,,,and even just lending you an ear....we are here....and your daughter will learn there is no shame in having this disease...but this will take time..please keep us posted,,we are always here....love to all      cin
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In NJ, we have Medicaid.  I was on it myself (even though I am a nurse) once when I was in between jobs.  I didn't have health insurance and while I didn't qualify for food stamps/money/rent payments, I DID qualify for health insurance.  I applied for it and got it because I was pregnant and needed care.  But they also paid ALL my medical bills (dentist, etc)   Medicaid will pay for your daughter to go to rehab (in my state it does anyway).  All you do is find out where the welfare office is and go down and apply - tell them you need assistance right away and see what happens.  My best friend (used to be until she discovered herion - she just stopped calling me) has been on welfare/medicaid for 4 years.  She went into Princeton House for 30 days in January (and they picked up the tab).  She didn't stay clean though and I heard (through mutual friends) that she is now in an inpatient 6 month to 1 year in a "Christian" rehab.  I don't know specifics about the 2nd rehab but you can bet your bottom dollar she isn't paying for it.  Her parents can't afford it and now they are watching her two small children while she is there.  Good luck and please let us know what happens.  God Bless, Maryanne
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I am sorry for your pain, and sorry to hear about your daughter.  The point is, is that she is ready to get help, and that is wonderful!
I am in a similar boat, my husband is at rehab right now, thank god we had insurance, and his sister to help with the remainder.
I, too, have become addicted to drugs, not just because of him, but it was my way of numbing myself so that my pain wouldn't be unbearable.  It gets away from you real quick, it is incredible.
I'm not sure what state she lives in, i live in Florida, and i know that there are many rehabs locally, that are state-funded.  What they do is they work off of a sliding scale according to income.  One in particular, is only $1,500 for a 28-day program.  
I would hope that this state isn't the only one that offers such programs.  I would try to call some numbers in your local phone book, not the advertised, bigtime rehabs, but ones that look like they might be state-funded.
There's one that is used for people that they send as part of their jail-term.  You might want to call the local jail and ask where they send people.  That might sound scarey to you, but i know that this rehab here, that takes people from jail, has a very good program.  They are the ones who charge $1,500, they don't even take insurance...  
When someone needs help, and is really ready, they will go to anything, anywhere, and crawl on their hands and knees to get any help available.  
That would be my best suggestion.  There should be a NA or an AA help number in your local phone book, and they would have much more information than i could provide, not knowing exactly where you are located.
Good luck, and you are a good mom for supporting your daughter as you are...  It is a very difficult thing, this addiction, and i know she needs as much support as possible right now.  You might try getting some counseling yourself, because she will need your support, and it's hard when you have so many questions of your own that are unanswered.  Try to get some counseling for you, you deserve it!
Good luck!
Jenny
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Wizzard,
Thank you for your reply. We are trying to find something in the south. The problem with my daughter trying to get help from former co-workers is she is embarassed and does not want them to know about her drug problem.

We can afford to help her with the cost if it is afordable. Most of the private facilities I have found information on cost $6,000-$12,000 & up for 30 days and we cannot afford that.     I hoped to find a church sponsored program, but any good program would be great.  These seem to be easier to find for men than women.  Thank you for your prayers.  
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I've seen your post here for most of the day and I'm sorry for not jumping on. I didn't feel I had an answer for you myself as I'm not informed in this area. I'm sure it would help if maybe you gave a general area of location such as a state and/or county. Maybe someone else on the forum may have some information for you. I noticed you stated she was a social worker. Maybe some friend of hers in her field may have some info? A posible good place to start with her financial situation would be some county services? Before you do though see if someone with more experience here comes to the rescue as I have no experience here without more info. God bless you and your daughter and know I'll keep you in my prayers. Good luck with this and PLEASE come back here for support. I'm sure someone will be along shortly.
Power & Magick 2 U,
Peace & Light upon us all,
Wizard
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