all who have taken sub. & methadon

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anyone that has been on suboxone and methadone....do you think there is a difference between the two in regards to how they make you feel... i used to take methadone, i always got some type of buzz, i am now on suboxone and do not feel anything, i feel nothing but completly normal...   the reason i ask is someone keeps trying to tell me (this someone is on methadone, and never had suboxone) that there is no difference between the 2, that they are the same thing and therefore make you feel the same way.....am i the only 1 that can feel the difference between the 2 drugs...and if you can elaborate on the difference between the two drugs...thank you

wait2long · Answer

i think the only way they are similar is if you do a chemical breakdown...other than that it was like night and day, like beach said in his earlier post...............they are nothing but different to me.

FLaddict · Answer

I've taken both.. Methodone was in treatment for heroin addiction in 1998.. Sub was just two and half months ago.. I will say that even under medical supervision with the methodone I felt high the whole time.. I nodded out in group.. After a few days I had to ask them to drop my doses faster cause other patients were looking at me funny I wondered if maybe they got my urine test swapped with someone elses with a bigger habit and they were giving me thier dose....With Sub I had a few days where I felt a slight buzz that would creep up once and awhile.. but it was a dirty buzz.. didn't feel euphoric at all..
I believe in alot of ways they are different.. but there are also alot of ways they are very alike..

liscamdave · Answer

I completely agree. I think there is a major difference. When I tried to get off Oxys the first time, I used Methadone, and I remember feeling like I was high still. I remember feeling really good and I only had one methadone bisquit, which I took one quarter each day for 4 days, then I stopped and went into horrible withdrawal. I am sure from both the oxys and methadone. When I did the Sub, I felt no high whatsoever, I felt nothing really, no w/d and no high. I was normal. But my dr. explained that we, as addicts, forget what it;s like to feel normal and live life normal, from all the damage we did to ourselves. But I remember the sub gave me no high, and although I still went through w/d after stopping that too, I'd take it over methadone any day.....

Lisa

wait2long · Answer

i was hoping to get more responses to this one, so i will bump it up ...hope its okay...

wait2long · Answer

yes your right everyone react differently, but for someone to say that suboxone and methadone "are the same" is just plain ignorance...and then to deny being high when your normal dose is 50mgs and you up it to 80mgs or 100mgs, you are upping your methadone for a reason...to get high, right?  hey i will be the first one to admit it and apologize to everyone if i am wrong about this one...

liscamdave · Answer

I tried both, and the Methadone gave me a little bit of a Euphoric feeling. As for the Sub, I felt as normal as my brain could remember prior to my drug use, so I felt no high or euphoria on the Sub. I hope this helps, but I am sure that everyone is different.

Lisa

wait2long · Answer

northern NH is in real trouble, and no one is listening to the cries for help up here, we really have nothing...it just continues to get worse...i have recently heard that now they are just starting to get concerned over meth labs, personally i only know or heard of 2 incidents with methamphetamines (sp?)...i guess they still really beleive if its from a doctor then its ok...

beachtowel · Answer

thank you for you very kind words but the path I chose was a lousy one and I do not wish all the heart ache I caused my family and friends on anyone.......

Thanks to Judge Mayberry and putting me into a addict behavoir rehab for six months and then a drug rehab instead of prison I was able to go to college at age 49 and get my Associates Degree in Social work then so many people suddenly involved in my life Professors doctors etc.......I am not going to U of D Mercy college in addiction studies.......
I do a lot of speaking through N/A in service work, I work two nights a week now at Harbor Lite inpatient drug rehab.......
My plate is very full these days but I enjoy every minute of it and the crazy thing I finally have such a clarity on what I now want to do with my life.......

It took me 37 years for the light to come on in my head that my life was controlled by drugs and nothing else mattered........I am blunt and honest to the point where I have been accused of not having compassion for people here that is not true I wish everyone here could get to recovery and get control back of their own lives........
But when I read the post of an addict talking I am firm and direct with the disease.......are feeling hurt yes the person inside trapped in the addict has feelings but sometimes you  have to give a wake up call to the person and if I can get a reaction and people talking hopefully people will see that I've been there and Recovery is possible..........
I am learning as I go and my experience is growing everyday.....in a few weeks I start my internship in addiction counseling and have to control my excitment to get into the ring and fight addiction.....

I also want to change the way addicts are treated in my state of Michigan.....our governments way is build Methadone clinics and make millions of dollars while destroying peoples lives and causing so much mental anguish to their families........

I have a picture in my head of where I want to be in two years and barring relapse on my part nothing will stop me from getting my dream a reality.......

grievingwidow · Answer

You are really an inspiration to us all.  I hope you know that.

Love, Cindy

beachtowel · Answer

Soon as I am making more and more contacts I want to speak infront of congress and get some frigging body to listen that we need to get addicts help...............

my therapist when I was put away went in front of congress and got money to start Search in Ohio they started with one and now just opened there 7th building.........it works........

in one year from today I hope to be a drug addiction counselor at a simular facility in Michigan.......

wait2long · Answer

it is really unbeleivable, and i have told doctors,counselors and therapists about what an epidemic it is in this town...but not much they can do until people ask for help, and when they do ask for help...there is a 4 month waiting list just for therapy...the mental health system around here is lacking funds, people,time,everything is just so backed up its really unfair.  it makes me angry sometimes.

beachtowel · Answer

This is the RX generation...for sure.............
A couple of years ago when I was going through all my court cases  I would sit there in court and listen to case after case........illegal narcotics possession.....and a lot of fraud scripts......

wait2long · Answer

i used to do heroin, i would drive to chicopee, mass. to get a bundle every weekend, this was 17 years ago...but i live in a nowhere town, very small, but heroin is here now from what i hear, but the pill addicts is an epidemic in this town, literally...its scary and i am afraid for my children with the choices they have to deal with nowadays...i have actually thought of homeschooling...

wait2long · Answer

do it,i know the difference only in how different each makes me feel, i dont understand how to explain to a stubborn methadone addict that i am not high, that they are not the same...this person is trying to tell me she doesnt get high from methadone (and she takes anywhere from 50mgs to 100 mgs of it daily.)..i say BS!  well anyway, she is still accusing me of being high, unlike her...LOL

beachtowel · Answer

I live 20 miles from the Heroin capital Detroit.......
Heroin has been the first drug of choice in Detroit since the 60's.......

beachtowel · Answer

I could write a full page on both........don't want to bore people to death..........

wait2long · Answer

i was hoping you were going to add a little more for your answer...LOL!  thanks.

wait2long · Answer

definately, me being the drug addict i am would much rather be taking methadone than suboxone: #1 you get high on methadone and #2 methadone is ALOT cheaper....you have to be pretty dedicated in my eyes to want suboxone over methadone...methadone costs about $25.00 for 100, 10 mg pills... suboxone costs $170.00 for 30, 8 mg pills   the reason i am on suboxone is because i liked methadone, no i loved the way it made me feel,. i loved it too much and just wasnt going to give it up...so i went on the suboxone.

beachtowel · Answer

thats correct
Methadone would always be the first choice because they can get high using it.........

If they double there dose they really enjoy the high going into a nod really screwed up.....

You don't get that from Suboxone.........

If you were an addict which would you choose........

NewLeaf · Answer

So the addict would prefer methadone to suboxone & subutex because they get a buzz or high?

beachtowel · Answer

The difference between suboxone and Methadone is like night and day ,,,,i have used them both..along with subutex

all who have taken sub. & methadon

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