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Day 8 Clean off of long term oxy use...
I'm on day 8 clean from 360- 30 mg oxycodone per month. Overall I progressed to that over the last 4-5 years. I'm still experiencing the worst back pain and insomnia ever! Can anyone tell me have many more days I have to expect the physical pain to last? And also how long till I get that natural energy back? PLEASE!.. I'm in dyer straights! Any suggestion and answers will help! Thanks!
HI THOse are some tuff questions to answer there are a lot of verables it kinda goose like this take your habit in lenth of yrs x your dose x your age and from there you can figure out aprox how long this will take now if your a 20 something your come around a lot faster then a 40something if you used like me for 16 1/2 yr your withdrawal is going to be long and hard also you factor in the dosage the higher the dose the longer the recovery thats about as close as anybody can guess how long this will take oxy at your dose is usually a month long thing get up to walmart and pick up some whey protein shake mix its 15 bucks for a 2lb can the chocolate flavor is good you just mix it with milk drink 2 a day till you start to feel better this has got the amino acids as well as added vitimins along with the raw protein all of withch the brain needs to heal this is not a quick fix but rather the building blocks to getting well there is no cheeper way to get thee ecential amino acids you should also be looking into aftercare both N/A and A/A offer free programs and they work if you work them as addicts we need to change the very way we think and reason to overcome or disease keep pposting for support we all want to see you get well your doing good congrats on 8 days clean good luck and God bless.......Gnarly
PS. taking the Magnesium and Calcium before bed nourishes the central nervous system and helps control tremors like RLS and other muscle spasms, calms and relaxes the body, helps with sleep.
Generally, your endorphin levels get back to 45-50% of normal in a month, and it takes nine months to a year for your endorphin levels to return to 100% of normal function.
If you are talking about withdrawal pain, pain that is heightened due to opiate withdrawal, that shouldn't last much longer before you feel the actual back pain you have. it's a little difficult to describe how it works, but I'll try.
Opiates depress nerve transmission in sensory pathways of the spinal cord and brain that signal pain.
They do this by binding to what are called mu (µ) receptors . These receptors are located on the sub-synaptic membrane of neurons involved in the transmission of pain signals. Their natural ligands are two pentapeptides,(which contain five amino acids) Met-enkephalin
and Leu-enkephalin are the ones we want to look at as far as opiates go.
Normally, when we have an injury and feel pain, our bodies naturally regulate how much pain we feel, otherwise pain would continue to compound until no further damage is being done to the injury area, and would stay that way, gradually subsiding as it healed.
But we notice that when we break a leg or something, we feel pain, but it subsides very fast for a while, then becomes a little worse. A lot of people attribute this to "shock" and think this phenomena is caused by our adrenalin kicking in.
That's not what really happens. What happens, is our bodies release enkephalins which suppresses the transmission of pain signals. It only makes sense that our bodies have a system that decreases its own sensitivity in the face of massive injury and the pain associated with it.
But after a few hours pass, reserves of enkephalins are depleted, and enkephalins are used up at the rate of production, so the pain increases. Pain subsides again as the days go by, partly because more neurons and neurotransmitters are being produced because of increased demand, and the injury begins to heal. Eventually demand decreases and the system returns to it's normal balance with a reserve capacity in case of another injury.
By binding to the (mu(µ) receptors), opiates like morphine and oxycodone and heroin enhance the pain-killing effects of these enkephalin neurons that produce this calming effect on the pain signals. Over time, the opiates reduces the sensitivity of the system, and it is no longer as sensitive to the soothing effects of the enkephalin neurons. Then, when you stop taking the opiate, the pain of withdrawal is produced because the system is no longer as sensitive and responsive, plus it no longer has the help of the opiate bonding the receptors.
Unlike other other neurotransmitters, such as dopamine and serotonin, whose production and use are completely blocked by the opiate, and become dormant or die off completely, the enkephalins are still present, but they are just desensitized, and will return to their normal responsiveness as the opiate is depleted from the system and neuron and neurotransmitter production returns to normal responsiveness.
You should be at or close to that point now, as this doesn't last much longer that the "bad" part of the withdrawals themselves.
So what you are feeling is probably close your normal pain level, or your system may be a bit sluggish if your body is lacking the proper nutrients needed to maintain optimum regeneration of the neurons and neurotransmitters associated with pain control systems.
What you can do is take a good multivitamin with the complete B vitamin, especialy B6, Vitamin C, at least 1000mgs, Calcium, and magnesium.
B complex vitamins are needed for absorption of aminos, rebuilding of the liver, reducing stress.
You may also want to take an amino acid called DLPA- helps restore the function to the pain receptors working with the endorphins/enkephalins, and can also help with your pain since yout suffer from legitamate pain.
I hope this info helps, and a little tweaking your health is all you need to fell better.
Congrats on getting this far, keep up the good fight!
If you are talking about withdrawal pain, pain that is heightened due to opiate withdrawal, that shouldn't last much longer before you feel the actual back pain you have. it's a little difficult to describe how it works, but I'll try.
Opiates depress nerve transmission in sensory pathways of the spinal cord and brain that signal pain.
They do this by binding to what are called mu (µ) receptors . These receptors are located on the sub-synaptic membrane of neurons involved in the transmission of pain signals. Their natural ligands are two pentapeptides,(which contain five amino acids) Met-enkephalin
and Leu-enkephalin are the ones we want to look at as far as opiates go.
Normally, when we have an injury and feel pain, our bodies naturally regulate how much pain we feel, otherwise pain would continue to compound until no further damage is being done to the injury area, and would stay that way, gradually subsiding as it healed.
But we notice that when we break a leg or something, we feel pain, but it subsides very fast for a while, then becomes a little worse. A lot of people attribute this to "shock" and think this phenomena is caused by our adrenalin kicking in.
That's not what really happens. What happens, is our bodies release enkephalins which suppresses the transmission of pain signals. It only makes sense that our bodies have a system that decreases its own sensitivity in the face of massive injury and the pain associated with it.
But after a few hours pass, reserves of enkephalins are depleted, and enkephalins are used up at the rate of production, so the pain increases. Pain subsides again as the days go by, partly because more neurons and neurotransmitters are being produced because of increased demand, and the injury begins to heal. Eventually demand decreases and the system returns to it's normal balance with a reserve capacity in case of another injury.
By binding to the (mu(µ) receptors), opiates like morphine and oxycodone and heroin enhance the pain-killing effects of these enkephalin neurons that produce this calming effect on the pain signals. Over time, the opiates reduces the sensitivity of the system, and it is no longer as sensitive to the soothing effects of the enkephalin neurons. Then, when you stop taking the opiate, the pain of withdrawal is produced because the system is no longer as sensitive and responsive, plus it no longer has the help of the opiate bonding the receptors.
Unlike other other neurotransmitters, such as dopamine and serotonin, whose production and use are completely blocked by the opiate, and become dormant or die off completely, the enkephalins are still present, but they are just desensitized, and will return to their normal responsiveness as the opiate is depleted from the system and neuron and neurotransmitter production returns to normal responsiveness.
You should be at or close to that point now, as this doesn't last much longer that the "bad" part of the withdrawals themselves.
So what you are feeling is probably close your normal pain level, or your system may be a bit sluggish if your body is lacking the proper nutrients needed to maintain optimum regeneration of the neurons and neurotransmitters associated with pain control systems.
What you can do is take a good multivitamin with the complete B vitamin, especialy B6, Vitamin C, at least 1000mgs, Calcium, and magnesium.
B complex vitamins are needed for absorption of aminos, rebuilding of the liver, reducing stress.
You may also want to take an amino acid called DLPA- helps restore the function to the pain receptors working with the endorphins/enkephalins, and can also help with your pain since yout suffer from legitamate pain.
I hope this info helps, and a little tweaking your health is all you need to fell better.
Congrats on getting this far, keep up the good fight!
First off, Congrats Heather. Your such an inspiration that this battle can be won!!!'
Everybody's body is different. You could have a complete shift in a few days to a week. Are you taking anything for your physical pain like Advil etc....?
Like dedicatedtostop said, try and force yourself to walk. You need your brain to start producing seratonin asap. B12 is also a great idea.
Hang in there!!!!!
Everybody's body is different. You could have a complete shift in a few days to a week. Are you taking anything for your physical pain like Advil etc....?
Like dedicatedtostop said, try and force yourself to walk. You need your brain to start producing seratonin asap. B12 is also a great idea.
Hang in there!!!!!
Hey there, I wish I had the answers but I don't!!
Just wanted to let you know that someone cared. I too suffer from back pain and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!
Try walking if you can. Obviously if it hurts you don't do it.
Exercising helps build up those endorphins and give us more energy.
Also b12 is great for energy. I take the 2500mcg tab that dissolves under the tongue.
I don't know what your taking but it's worth a try.
Hang in there, you have came so far!!!!!! Everyday is a new day
Just wanted to let you know that someone cared. I too suffer from back pain and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!
Try walking if you can. Obviously if it hurts you don't do it.
Exercising helps build up those endorphins and give us more energy.
Also b12 is great for energy. I take the 2500mcg tab that dissolves under the tongue.
I don't know what your taking but it's worth a try.
Hang in there, you have came so far!!!!!! Everyday is a new day
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