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i've been on lortab 10 for 8 years.would 15 suboxones be enough to properly ween myself off completly.any advice would be helpful.
I think meetings depend on the area you live in. There are soooo many meetings it is hard NOT to find one that will work for you. As eagle said, it is up to YOU to go to as many different meetings as it takes to find the one you fit in best with. I went to my first HA (heroin anony) and it was an awesome meeting!! Heroin and opiates are very similar so I could really relate. But when it comes down to the nitty gritty, addiction is not all about our doc, its how we react to our lives.....how we have learned to deal with life.....we choose to drink or drug our emotions away. That is what we all have in common. If you haven't found a meeting that fits your needs, get a list and find one that will. It is out there, just takes some leg work.
All of the choices are good ..... NA is very good .......... But you will need to realize that ultimately the deed is up to you ........ No sub, no NA, no one else will do this for you --- you will need to get down and dirty and finish up the task ........ There is no way that it will be painless or easy -------- How does the Church song go? ..... "Youve got to walk that lonesome valley ....... Youve got to walk it by yourself ..... Nobody else, can walk it for you .... Youve got to walk it by yourself "----------------- eagle
wannabefree330 wow thats alot of hydros.glad your doing better .thats where i want to be .just wish i knew the best way to go about it .with all the info. right now i'm not feeling to good,.i'm sorry.again thanks for all the advice.i'm sure i'll be back on this forum again tomm.
Hi Steve,
I just want to tell you what I know about suboxone. I have been on it for almost 3 months now. My Dr. will wein me when he thinks the time is right. 15 probably is not enough....Get on the Suboxone website and read there articles. It will tell you that there is a maintnence phase to stay on it. Once you are stabalize and comfortable with no withdrawal then they will keep you on that for a while and when you are ready, you will start to wein. My dr. will wein me 1/2 a mg for 7 days and then down another 1/2 for 7 days until I do that till I have no more mg's left. You should really talk to a DR. Nobody can tell you what is right for you and not doing it right can result to a relapse. I will pray for you that you get the help that you need. Addiction is a powerful thing and it can take your life. I have been clean for 7 months now and life is so much better now.
I just want to tell you what I know about suboxone. I have been on it for almost 3 months now. My Dr. will wein me when he thinks the time is right. 15 probably is not enough....Get on the Suboxone website and read there articles. It will tell you that there is a maintnence phase to stay on it. Once you are stabalize and comfortable with no withdrawal then they will keep you on that for a while and when you are ready, you will start to wein. My dr. will wein me 1/2 a mg for 7 days and then down another 1/2 for 7 days until I do that till I have no more mg's left. You should really talk to a DR. Nobody can tell you what is right for you and not doing it right can result to a relapse. I will pray for you that you get the help that you need. Addiction is a powerful thing and it can take your life. I have been clean for 7 months now and life is so much better now.
As you say, you did take a nasty spill.....8 yrs ago! Can't keep using that as an excuse to continue using as much lortab as you do. if you do,you could end up like me....I used my shoulder as an excuse and 2 months ago I was taking 14 lortab 10/325 pills at a time, every 3 hours while awake. I would pop 60-70 pills a day. I tried tapering, I tried CT I just couldn't do it that way. I finally checked into detox and got put on suboxone. I am still on the sub, started at four 8mg pills a day. I am now down to two 8mg pills a day. I have experienced no withdrawl and even dropping the dose in half within a month I have had no w/d or problems. That doesn't mean I won't, but that's a chance I'm willing to take. If I had continued in my using, I would be shooting heroin right now i'm almost positive of that. It may turn out I end up being on 2mg of sub for the rest of my life. Oh well. If there does come a time when I begin to taper off completely I know mentally, emotionally, and physically I'm in a better spot now to handle that than I was 2 months ago. I would go talk to a sub doctor. Find one who is interested in your addiction, and helping you overcome that, not just one who wants to write you a script-charge you 300 bucks and kick you out the door.
I see my doctor (who is a psychiatrist) once a month. Its $80 to see him, and he sits down with me,and asks me how things are going etc. He goes into detail about any w/d, triggers, thoughts of using, relapse, any other problem areas in my life. He expects me to attend AA/NA for ongoing aftercare as well as a once a week aftercare meeting. I don't mind this though, it helps me. As theeagle said, we are all different and what works for one will not always work for everyone.
I see my doctor (who is a psychiatrist) once a month. Its $80 to see him, and he sits down with me,and asks me how things are going etc. He goes into detail about any w/d, triggers, thoughts of using, relapse, any other problem areas in my life. He expects me to attend AA/NA for ongoing aftercare as well as a once a week aftercare meeting. I don't mind this though, it helps me. As theeagle said, we are all different and what works for one will not always work for everyone.
i take apprx.12 10mg lortab a day and trying to get out of this nightmare.i feel i'm taking these more for the withdrawl than the pain.although i do have pain every day from a fall 25 feet from a roof in 2001 i don't think it constitutes the amount of lortab i'm taking.i'm so addicted,it's obvious.after 8 years of being on everything from lortab to oxy-contin i'm stuck.would i be better off trying to ween off the lortab which is hell or going on a 21 day suboxone taper.any advice would be greatly appreciated
keep looking and reading....the truth is out there - - - (X-Files) - - - it probably lies somewhere in the middle of all of this.........................
that article that you directed me to scared the **** out of me .now i feel more lost than ever .i guess theres no easy way out
Look at the mid - right hand side of the page .... in the box find Suboxone / Subutex Faqs - - - - then read it and learn what you are going to get into - - scholls of though vary - - as does even advice from Doctors - - - do some homewoek and best of luck to you - - -
i've had some advice on this forum and it can be confusing but i think you hit it on the head when you said ,forget about the methadone,because that used to be my drug of choice and i'll never forget the physical torment'when i tried going off of it and thats an understatement.i don't know much about suboxone and i only have 15 n8's that i got from a friend.if i start the suboxone how long do i have to wait after my last lortab before i start the soboxone,i take 12 10's per day of lortab.also wondering if i should get in to a suboxone clinic,not that i want to ,it seems like liquid handcuffs.CONFUSED BUT WANT A NORMAL LIFE.any suggestions is greatly appreciated
i would not use the methodon because you have to wait a while to start taking the suboxone when on methodones and beside that it is a very bad drug as you knoe the suboxone done right can help you get off tabs use 1/2 a day to start and then in 5 day work your self down to every other day then break that in half and keep going till all gone im sure you can do this
IF I were you......I would use the remaining lortabs in a taper mode until they are gone. I would then use the methadone @30mg per day for about 7 days....I would then use the sub for 7 days @8mg per day....4mg in morning and 4 in afternoon....then I would start to use the sub sparingly - - skip a day at first and then spread that out.....by 3 weeks on sub you should be getting ready to stop the madness........you may well wish to adjust this schedule to fit your personal needs.......you should be able to do this and you will still have a few methadones left for an emergency - - - not for when the dog eats your script or something. Those days will be history for you and you will really enjoy it being over .....
thanks for your responses # 50-10 mg of meth.i'm worried about taking them because for about a year during my addiction that was my drug of choice.i went to rehab and found out that it's harder to get off of them than heroin. i left rehab after 28 days and was still in withdrawl. after that month i screwed up.it was like physical torment.i couldn't take it any more.i would like nothing more than to just feel normal,i'm scared to death of withdrawl and there's not many things in life that make me feel that way
Glad that you are getting comfortable with your keyboard......Did you have 50mg of methadone or 50 pills (how strong?)? It would possibly be much better to detox with the methadone as oppossed to the sub......since you are quiting the hydros a limited supply is what you need anyway..........start to taper the hydros immediately. 10% a week is probably ideal. Then when you get to the bottom of the hydro's jump to either the methadone or the sub to finish up.........No more than 21 days for the sub or methadone......then stay strong and be a recovering pillhead instead of an active one. Recovering beats the heck out of an active one.......................good luck to you.......
Glad that you are getting comfortable with your keyboard......Did you have 50mg of methadone or 50 pills (how strong?)? It would possibly be much better to detox with the methadone as oppossed to the sub......since you are quiting the hydros a limited supply is what you need anyway..........start to taper the hydros immediately. 10% a week is probably ideal. Then when you get to the bottom of the hydro's jump to either the methadone or the sub to finish up.........No more than 21 days for the sub or methadone......then stay strong and be a recovering pillhead instead of an active one. Recovering beats the heck out of an active one.......................good luck to you.......
thanks for your input.i guess i need to see a doctor because i only have a limited supply of hydros and only 15 n8's'but i know what will happen if i run out.i was in a bad accident in 2001.fell 25 feet'landed on my heels.ihave bi-lateral calcaneous fractures and alot of back problems.if i had a choice of falling again and going through the surgerys 6'or the withdrawl from opiates i honestly don't know which i'd pick.yes theeaglei'm catching on to this computer.especially now that i know i can actually correspond with people.i knew you could but didn't know how.
No the sub will not block benzos but be very careful if taking benzo with the suboxone it can be a deadly combo. I started suboxone treatment about 2 months ago and I was amazed and how well it works and believe me a little goes a long way. I was using at least 120-200mg of oxycontin daily and was able to start with 1 8mg suboxone daily( I take half in am and then in pm although i can really get by with 4mg daily) . I think the subs will help but you should get yourself on a daily maintance program to help break the addiction. The great thing about sub is how you feel not high but you do not crave opiates and it feels so good to just know that your mind is free and clear of that craving and desire,its really such a wonderful drug in my opinion.I have a really great sub doctor and he gives me meds to help with other symptoms like hydroxine(a strong rx antihistamine) for anxiety and sleeping. Good luck to I hope that once you try the medication and realize just how good you feel mentally and physically with suboxone you will make a leap to treatment because 8 years of using lortab will not be cured with just a few days of suboxone but sometimes baby steps is what you have to do before making that leap..good luck..its worth it!
Sub has nothing to do with benzo's....Save your 50mg methadone for real pain much later............You shouldnt be on the sub long enough to need to taper - and it doesnt taper that well anyway....quit the narcs long enough to experience withdrawl symptoms......generally around 12 - 18 hours.....use the amino acid tyrosine for energy problems and the amino - theanine for nerves - its like a valium, but totally natural.....You arent doing too badly with computers now, are you?
thank you so much.i'm pretty new with working with computers and i feel lucky that i found this forum'and even happier that i got a responce.there are so many questions that i have.should i taper off the suboxone or just do like you said.is suboxone also a benzo blocker as i do take 3mg's of xanax a day.i'm trying to do this alone and i know how hard that can be.i've tried before and failed.i also have 50 methadone but to scared to take it.i've heard horror storys.i really want out of this mess but having great diffaculty.i never was for na but maybe thats what i'm missing.when i try to ween off i have no energy and feel like i'm going to pass out.if you have any more suggestions i' love to hear them.thanks
What strength? 15 may well be enough for your purposes. Dont expect to get completely out of this woods without some scratches from the briars though........
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