getting off methadone and heroin

[JPIPES7292]

Hello all, good morning.
I see that most of you are pill addicts- can anyone tell me is there a real difference in pills/opiates and with heroin? that is what my demon is heroin and i am starting my detox off methadone on saturday going down 10mg a day from 70mg i have been on methadone for about 1 1/2 months i am hopeing that i will not be detoxing for no 1-2 months as someone posted to me last night-i couldn't even respond i just cried myself to sleep-but i went to the clinic this a.m and refused the 10mg increase that the counsler tried to give me to give me an extra day of detox time-i am just ready to be off methadone however i could not kick heroin i tried prolly 10x's seriously tried and just could not do it, w/d were entirly too hard and i am a big baby but now my husband is gone--which is good for me besides with him went homes,cars everything on dope-anyways does any one here have any experience with detoxing heroin or methadone? if so could you maybe give me some insight--or if the opiates are the same w/c then can someone let me know yesterday i really didn't hear or see too much on methadone or heroin and i kinda feel like "the bad guy"
thanks for reading/listening cause i have noone else besides users in my life-yea my mother asked me to go get her vikes yesterday unreal that lady that would bee nice if where i got them was not my dope house-lol

thanks,jenn

[liscamdave]

Jenn....Heroine is an opiate....I am not really sure about the withdrawal from heroine, I just know that they detox people who are on oxy's or heroine, the same way, with Methadone...or Suboxone...

I tried to detox once with Methadone and it sucked...I went from Oxy's then to Methadone and the w/d was horrible. I strongly suggest Suboxone or Naltrexone. I sent you the site info..did u look at it??

Let me know. And dont feel like an outcast because its heroin...we all have our demons, we r just here for each other and that is it...

Good Luck and Stay Strong

Lisa

[JPIPES7292]

yes i looked at the site however the cheepest was 350$ and id rather just save the money and try to do this -
also i tried to buy sub off the street and take it OMG i went stright into the worst w/d i can say i ever faced-prolly cause i didn't take it properly- i do know it was prolly to early anyways i have spent too much money on myself and my addictions so i am just going to tuff this one out-just tring to see if anyone personally did this after only 1 month on meth cause like i said they told me last night 1-2 months-i do not think anyone could do that detox stright up for 2 months there is no way -maybe not feeling 100% but they said actually w/d last 2 months! and there is no help here in detroit where i live our funding is gone i cannot even go to detox in rehab cause there is a 5 month waiting list and i called to get a counsling appointment for my children and i and there is a 7 month wait for that-unreal nothing is free or even inexpensive but thanks for the site

[tztlady]

Welcome, you fit right in here, there are a few of us heroin folk in this forum.  It has been many years but the detox from heroin was similar to the detox from vikes for me.  With heroin I detoxed in jail (juvenile) with only a little valium to help.  I actually "cheeked" the valium and saved it up for several days and then took them all at once trying to get high.   It was the same restless legs, etc.

I suggest you look in the archives and read what others have written about methadone withdrawal.  I never used it so can't help much there.  Best of luck to you and I can say that based on what I've read on this forum it is VERY important to not stay on the methadone for too long.  It sounds like you are determined to get off of it as soon as possible.

[liscamdave]

Yeah, you can't take ANY Suboxone if u have Methadon or opiates in your system or u will go into severe w/d...That person should have told u that...That is a shame...

I completely understand your financial situation. It sounds like u dont really have a good strong support system at home and one is definitely needed. So stick close to this forum for support.. You can email me anytime.

Trying to do it yourself is going to be hard. I am not sure about a 2month w/d...it is definitly gonna take a good 5 days of bad w/d..but after that it should subside and every day will get better. I am on 17 days and still dont feel that great...Everything is restoring itself, but it is still hard. I have Zero energy, and it sucks, and a little Restless legs at night still, some insomnia,...but the worst has passed. And it will for you. Get through the first few days and take it from there. How much of the Methodon do u have left, can u break it up to try n wean your self a littile further...Also, if u can get your hands on any sort of meds to help u sleep, that is good to. All I did was sleep my first few days of w/d...Maybe u can sleep throught the worst of it??? Everyone is different...

Keep in touch and let me know how you are...I will check up on u...\
Lisa

[JPIPES7292]

thanks lisa words of encouragement help so much
yes i have 15 ativans being saved for me but i go to a clinic every day for the meth so i cannot stockpile it wish i cld, i'd do it right-but i am going to stay in this forum and keep posting b/c you are right i have no support except my bro and his wife i also have lots of vitimins the thomas thing and let my bro read this last night cause he is so scared for me prolly more then i am i just do not want to say f--- it and go buy that 5$ pack i know will make the w/d go away so i will just stay here in hopes of getting through it-i will see how it works saturday they were going to do it yesterday but my counsler got them to hold off now i wish she woouldn't of because i am holding back getting a job b/c i certainly cannot start a job and stop it because i am sick

well god bless and peace thanks lisa for your support hopefully i still contuine to get advice i know that opiates are opiates so i know we are all kinda in the same boat however for all those tapering i could not do that with heroin i tried and i just couldn't and i did start on vikes about 1 year ago went from them to oxy's then rite to heroin -cheeper so i thought until u need it every 4 hours
now i am babbling thanks all

[FLaddict]

I was a heroin addict long before pills they are very similiar.. Who ever said you fit in was right.. this really is the place for you..

[liscamdave]

Just stay strong...know that if  give in and go buy that 5$ bag, u have to do it all over again. It is a vicious cycle and u know that. The sooner you start your w/d, the sooner it will be over and merely a memory, hopefully. I thank god that my w/d was how it was, because I will NEVER NEVER go through it again. To have to work, take care of a child, and be alone, all while going through w/d from a three year , 700mg addiction, was a nightmare...So it has given me the will to not do it again...God Willing..

Anyway, I am here for you as well as many others. Keep posting questions or whatever u need. We are all in the same boat....

Take Care,

Lisa

[L's R Misery]

yeah jpipes i've got a family memeber who is bad off on methadone she said she couldn't imagine detoxing from it BUT...i have another family member who was taking 125 mg of methadone per day  ......he had to get approved by the state of TN to start taking that much and he quit but he had to cut 1/4 every 2 weeks......125, 100, 75, 50....etc...so i would say tapering is the only way off of methadone from what i've heard but idk i' only do hydros and i'm having trouble getting off of them this is my 1st day of detox lisacamdave i just wanna say your working, taking care of child, while detox is encouraging me cuz i fear i wont be able to work sunday.......at least i'll have the 1st 2 days off right?

thx guys good luck, B

[chemmonster7]

your w/d may not be as bad as some being you have only been on it a short time I went c/t after 4  an half yrs was at 350 yes w/ds are hard core hell at least 8wks sick and I had cravings for pills not the methadone wich is why I was on meth but the w/ds last a long time just had my 8mnths clean you can make it just keep going at least ypu are tapering I just stopped but it was making me so sick, I only come on and scan but i will watch for you I used be on all the time but we must move on good luck