help with Thomas Recipe

[slk714]

for the recipe listed under thomas recipe, i saw the p.m. recipe requires 50 mg niacin which my haelth food store only carries 500mg, took last night while detoxing from vicodin addiction and my skin was on fire.THOUGHT I WAS DYING!!!!! then i read bottle a.m. and sure enough, normal reaction. my question is: was the 50 mg listed a typo, was it supposed to read 500, if not i will have to cut down tablets.
someone please help, pregnant and need to do this asap. on my 6th day right now of recipe, working great, cut down to 6 pills from 12 a day, but never saw p.m. part until reading forum yesterday so went and got additional ingredients.
thanks
slk714

[slk714]

once again, thanks for the encouragement, it brought me to tears. i have very little support in my life right now.
thanks for making my morning a brighter :)
this is exactly what i need, just sorry i didn't reach out sooner in the week
slk714

[IBKleen]

NA is an excellent choice. You will find a lot of good folks there who can help you with your recovery. If you can find a sponsor to drive you around, let me know..LOL I mean mine would surely help me if I needed it, but it is not something that is typically done.

I am very happy for you that you are getting clean and taking responsibility for that little life inside you.

[slk714]

thanks for info, agree about benzo's. this pregnancy i believe, god willing, has saved and changed my life. also, contacted NA yesterday for meetings and a sponsor to take me to dr. appt's while detoxing. started doing pilates (for pregnancy) but home alone all day so i see this forum extremely helpful for hard times while alone
again, first time writer but i sure appreciate and NEED the support
thanks again
slk714

[IBKleen]

Here is the original recipe:

THOMAS RECIPE

If you can't take time off to detox, I recommend you follow a taper regimen using your drug of choice or suitable alternate -- the slower the taper, the better.

For the Recipe, You'll need:

1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.

2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).

3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.

4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).

5. Vitamin B6 caps.

6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).

How to use the recipe:

Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.

Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.

During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.

Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.

At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.

Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.

As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.


I don't necessarily agree with this as I don't like suggesting to anyone that they take benzo's. They are highly addictive and the last thing anyone needs is another pill addiction. I absolutely would not recommend it to someone who is pregnant.

[slk714]

don't know if you got the first half of posted comment, yes, i've been ok'd to go forward with this. other than detoxing, have completely changed to a healthy lifestyle,put on prenatal vitamins, etc. was on waiting list for methadone, not optional to me now that pregnant. checked all ingredients of recipe, and dr ok'd

[slk714]

sorry, hit wrong button. anyway, they are not too concerned seeing as though it is so early and doing so well. no insurance or would have gone medically. QUITING IS NOT AN OPTION ANYMORE and my dr. knows that.
i saw the niacin posted at the very bottom from last year August, didn't get nickname right now,but it said to take 1/2 hour before bed 400 mg. Magnesium, 50mg niacin, and 1 5-htp. also cheked with nutritionist who confirmed safe, but again i think tooooo much niacin for me, trying to find out should i not take at all, or cut down??? is it really necessary.
i'm first time writer, long time watcher of this site
thanks for writing so quick, this kept me from taking my a.m. dose earlier than scheduled.
slk714

[IBKleen]

No where on the recipe do I see to take niacin????

Also, is your OBGYN aware that you are tapering off of pain meds during a pregnancy?