if just 1 of you could help me

[572]

I'm feeling like I can't hang in there doing this by myself. I'm trying to take myself off Oxycocet and Lyrica. I quit 60mg Cymbalta cold turkey 4-1/2 weeks ago and it was a very tough ride, but I refused to give in. Now I'm trying to get off these other 2 drugs and I feel like I can't cope. Can one of you please help me? I've gone from 600mg Lyrica a day down to 450mg and I'm on 1 oxy 5/325 4 times a day. How can I do this?

[Sonrissa]

Hi there and welcome! You will find lots of advice and support here! I have no personal experience with the Lyrica, but there are other members here who do! Hang in there, and someone will be along to help! Have you talked to your doctor about this? I would think they would be your best resource to help with the tapering! Take care! Keep posting!

[Pat1956100]

I would seriously consider doing 1 at a time.  All of the drugs that you have been taking have bad withdrawal symptoms.
Why are you going off all of these?
I stopped oxy a couple of months ago and have just recently tapered off of Lyrica and it was brutal.  
Unless your doctor has advised you otherwise I would taper off of the oxy first and then the Lyrica or vice-versa.  
I am supposed to start Cymbalta so I am interested in knowing why you have to go off everything at once.

[BarbRTR]

I am wondering why you went off Cymbalta. Mental illness, depression, etc is real. That is a legitimate medicine if you're suffering from depression. And to go off that prior to trying to quit oxy's? May I ask why?

You must have been on Cymbalta for a reason?

[Pat1956100]

It's also being used for fibromyalgia etc.  Either way your poor body must be going through hell right now.  Is your doctor involved with this?
I really feel badly for all you are going through.
You could slow the Lyrica taper down by only dropping 75mg at a time.
It's still hard but not as drastic as cutting the 150mg each time.

[freebird227]

so it seems that members need a little information before they are able to share with you what has worked for them...... the suggestion about a doctor's visit is very legit as we are not the medical field.... there is a huge amount of detoxin experience and yet more info is needed.... a lot of us have a duel diago, me for one.....so we will have some mental health experience as you can tell by the questions being asked.....maybe you can post a little more about what is going on.......

[BarbRTR]

Yes, Cymbalta is prescribed for fibro and other pain management, but fact is it helps with serotonin and norepinephrine, feel good chemicals.

It takes 2-4 weeks to work, and 2-4 weeks to get out of your system after stopping.  My opiate detox, only on day 4, I'm clueless to help, just encourage. But anti depressants I know. And regardless of why they were subscribed, I'm concerned a crash of seratonin etc, now, would be horrible.

I hope you can see a Dr. Good luck :)

[Pat1956100]

Yes, especially going cold turkey off of it.  
I hope you come back and post 572.  We are thinking about you.

[572]

Hi folks, thanks for replying so fast! Yes I do have Fibromyalgia (since 1995) and that is why all these drugs. I have talked to my doctor and told her I was going to try the gym and a better diet instead of the drugs. He agreed and told me I could quit the Cymbalta cold turkey and there would be no side effects :) He was very wrong! At least I'm over that now, lol. Ok so now I'm quitting the Lyrica by 50mg every 7 days, I've gone from 600mg to 450mg tomorrow I'll drop to 400mg. The oxy I've been splitting them in half, so far not even a half today :) but it's a battle, lol. I realky need some support if possible to help me through the next little bit. No doubt I'll do it but friends make it eaiser. No sleep ***** but I'll sleep when I'm dead, lol. Thank you to every one of you.

[Pat1956100]

Wow you are very brave.  I just finished a Lyrica taper and it was brutal especially when I stopped altogether but my taper was ridiculous.  My doctor said I didn't even need to taper but reluctantly prescribed me 2 weeks of 75mg a day to taper with after I insisted because I didn't want to feel sick over Christmas.
Yours sounds very sensible and doable even though it's not pleasant at all.
I am now tapering off Effexor so I can start Cymbalta but I am very afraid to start the Cymbalta because of what I have read about it's withdrawal.
I took it for a few days but don't want to put another drug in my system.
I would continue to do a very slow taper if I was you and even consider doing one pill at a time but you sound very determined.
Keep posting.  I will be cheering you on.

[572]

Oh I'm on a mission indeed Pat! I remember when I quit smoking after 4 years of the nasty habit, I pulled it off cold turkey, did the same thing with drinking too. Getting of the Cymbalta from what I've read and my experience is the nastiest one, I had absolutely no idea what I had ahead of me on that one. Think it through before you start taking them Pat. 9pm here and still np perks, I think I'll try the Oxy cold turkey as of today, see what happens,  lol. As for the Lyrica I'll keeping by just 50my every 7 days. THIS WAS MY LAST NIGHT OF 450 :) tomorrow night I'll start the 400mg jolt, lol. Can't wait till I'm completely clean. I just need a bit of help doing it and then I can help others going through this as well.

[572]

Iw was on all the drugs for Fibromyalgia.

[BarbRTR]

You're very strong to quit so much at once. I must ask, did your Dr know you planned to quit opiates after quitting Cymbalta?

Seems backwards! No matter the Cymbalta was for fibro, you got the anti depressive affect from it as well.

But your attitude rocks and that's what will get you through! Congrats on your decision.

[572]

Thanks Barb, my doc does NOT know I'm done with the oxy. Thank you so much for your kind words, very appreciated.  I'm have my week moments but it's realky only mind over matter which was put into play on getting off the Cymbalta.  Please keep encouraging me if you would. It's a battle indeed, one than can be won.

[572]

Thank you so much.

[572]

Up all night again, 4:07 here and can't sleep. My legs are twitching and I think my body is screaming for a hit of oxy but I'm damn well not giving into it, lol. Not easy that's for sure. I figure after 3-4 days of no Oxy my body might just realize how stubborn my mind is and give in! Omg, this is not fun, lol. Anyone else up or need help?

[PorVida]

I hear ya I'm just at the end of my 4th day and wide awake can't sleep
I've started to take it as a challenge.  This is just my body healing and brain trying to trick me.  If we give it time all will be back to normal soon
Hang in there

[HookLineandSinker68]

One pill at a time. That's what my doc said, never two at the same time. Kick the opiate first. Read my post, gives you an idea how to do it pain free. I'm still struggling with weaning without wd so just posted another help me question. Think I'm cutting to quick, have to talk with the hubby about dropping to 5 instead of 10mg at a time . I hear it can be done, pain free without the wd feeling each time you wean. My opinion is why wean if you go into wd weaning? So trying to get what's right for me so I don't feel it... Don't expect pain free but wd is bad with my choice of weaning each time.....so slow it down one drug at a time. Not two. Get one out then go for the other. Good luck

[572]

Yes we can all pull this off and yes our bodies all react in a very different way. With each others support we can do it easier :) For me, I've absolutely made up my mind that I'm done with the oxy cold turkey, so now I'm on the final mission to get off these Lyrica pills. I just watched all my oxy go down the toilet so that means they are no longer an option. Please don't think I'm suggesting any of you do this unless you have the mind set for the consequences that may face you, I'm very strong willed. This doesn't mean I don't need your help by the way. So that's got me down to 1 more nasty drug to get off, starting tonight I'm dropping to 400mg from 450mg's of Lyrica. Remember I was at 600mg per day and I'm dropping by only 50mg a week. Don't be surprised if I decide to speed this one up as well but for now since I seem to have run out of oxy lol I'll stay on the Lyrica taper. Again I'm only human too and need your support going through this. I also would love to offer my support to anyone that just need someone to talk to them getting off something.  I wish I had stumbled upon this site when I had quit my 60mg Cymbalta pills cold turkey, lol, almost 5 weeks ago! Thank you again to all who have responded to my cry for help.

[jenjen1966]

You have an amazing attitude! So strong. Can't wait to see your progress! And I agree, this site and people are amazing!

[572]

How much were you taking before the taper Pat? I drop to 400mg starting toniggt.

[Pat1956100]

I was taking 600mg.  I tapered way too fast and still am suffering from it.  On top of that doing a too fast Effexor taper.
My doctor is either an idiot or a masochist.  I'm betting on the latter.

[572]

Update: Will be 48 hours at 8pm eastern USA/CANADA time since I took my last oxy, I've had a very tough day going through withdrawals.  I'm not one to hide things so yes I balled my eyes out for a while but I've still refused to give in, I figure by day 4 I should start to at least be able to trick my mind into thinking it's getting easier. I also drop my Lyrica intake by another 50mg tonight down to 400mg. I forgot to mention that on the 14th of Dec I also quit cold turkey taking 300mg of Zytram a day, I think I'm ok with that one now. Has this been easy? OMG, no, it's been absolutely some of the worst times I can remember, but I'm so determined to pull this off. If I were to give in to taking a oxy right now (which is what my body wants me to do) then I would feel so defeted,  and to be honest the high would only last a few hours and I'm going to want another, so not going to happen. Somehow it feels better if I take a motion sickness pill (Gravol) as it eases the anxiety some, I'm also suckin back the Gatorade like a runner after running 25 miles. So I've been able to quit the following Cold Turkey 60mg daily Cymbalta since Dec 6th 2012, 300mg daily Tramadol since Dec 17th, I just quit the Oxy 2 days ago A5/325 × 4 daily and I've tapered my Lyrica from 600mg to 400mg in 2 weeks as of today. The Lyrica I'm going to try and stick with my taper of 50mg every week from now on. After I'm off all these meds I'll be very careful as too what I take for drugs, I'll be researching from now on. Thanks for listening to my struggle getting clean.

[Sonrissa]

Your strength, determination, and attitude are amazing! I simply can not believe what you have overcome, and what you continue to overcome! I don't think I've ever seen someone just plow right through this like you are! Take care, I continue to wish you all the best! I hope you feel better very soon!

[Pat1956100]

I was really depressed coming off of the Lyrica and always had a rough time with depression during oxy withdrawal.  The combo can make it brutal.
I don't know what is still making me so sick.   I have read the Lyrica withdrawal can go on forever but I am sure the Effexor is creating havoc too.  I am taking Omega 3 for the brain zaps and that seems to help.
Imodium, gatorade helping too.
I forgot about gravol.  It really helps with nausea and used to make me sleepy too.
So, I am supposed to start Cymbalta after all of this.  That was the reason for going off the Effexor and the Lyrica.  Now I don't want to.
Have you found anything that works for fibromyalgia that is natural?