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so i broke down and went to my doctor yesterday, but not the one that has been giving me the rx for the hydrocodone. i went to my stomach doctor.....the last day i ate one pill, it was on thursday of last week....and i feel that i have gone through all of the physical withdrawals. they weren't too much fun. i have always had a bad stomach and the whole endometriosis thing as well. i have been getting hot flashes, feeling sick, and stomach/uterus pain for about 2 weeks. They have me on hormones for the endo, a GERD pill, and then yesterday he put me on something called bentyl (apparantly a muscle relaxer for your stomach) and sucralfate. not too familiar with either one. but i do know that today it is making me kind of quesy and im getting like, nervous shakes. I don't even know how to explain it. But I already feel the pain coming on from the endo and I keep wondering if I should get my rx ONLY if the pain gets to the point of how it was when i was in the emergency room, or if I should just suck it up and not take anything.....
any thoughts???
thanks guys.
any thoughts???
thanks guys.
I am not saying run to surgery but constantly being in pain really sucks..........if you doctor can't figure it out and only means of diagnosis is to just give out narcotic pain pills is not the way......
I can appreciate that NSAIDS won't help your pain but if it is that bad where NSAIDS wont help keep looking for a doctor that can help you..........
I can appreciate that NSAIDS won't help your pain but if it is that bad where NSAIDS wont help keep looking for a doctor that can help you..........
good afternoon guys....
in response to last nights convo, the pain really started getting worse and worse every month starting this past december. it would gradually just get worse. so once the tylenol and advil and all that **** just didnt work at all, and the pain would be waking me up in the middle of the night (and i am a HEAVY sleeper) i started trying to take tylenol pm to just make myself pass out...this only worked for 2 maybe 3 months...then even that didnt keep me from waking up due to the pain. so in may and june, that is when my pain was so severe that i was waiting to just pass out due to pain shock. it was horrible.
today i am starting to feel the pain coming on also, but with them putting me on hormones, the pain isnt that severe, but its still there. so i was thinking about calling my doc and maybe just getting darvocets instead....im not sure yet....
greengrass.....how long have you been battling this? you said you had surgeries and they didnt help....which doesnt make me look forward to the surgery like before :(
how severe and where was your endo located? what kind of meds have you tried?
sorry so many questions, but i know no one around here with this!
in response to last nights convo, the pain really started getting worse and worse every month starting this past december. it would gradually just get worse. so once the tylenol and advil and all that **** just didnt work at all, and the pain would be waking me up in the middle of the night (and i am a HEAVY sleeper) i started trying to take tylenol pm to just make myself pass out...this only worked for 2 maybe 3 months...then even that didnt keep me from waking up due to the pain. so in may and june, that is when my pain was so severe that i was waiting to just pass out due to pain shock. it was horrible.
today i am starting to feel the pain coming on also, but with them putting me on hormones, the pain isnt that severe, but its still there. so i was thinking about calling my doc and maybe just getting darvocets instead....im not sure yet....
greengrass.....how long have you been battling this? you said you had surgeries and they didnt help....which doesnt make me look forward to the surgery like before :(
how severe and where was your endo located? what kind of meds have you tried?
sorry so many questions, but i know no one around here with this!
But when I do get pain that is so bad I wait to go into a pain shock passout, I dont know what to do.
How long have you been living like this?
How long have you been living like this?
id like to talk more with you later....its good to know someone else around here has it....although it sucks....
talk to you soon
talk to you soon
yeah i never understood why some people refuse to go to doctors, now I do. My medical bills are OUTRAGOUS. I am currently working 2 jobs, 7am-8pm M_F....Just to keep my health ins for all this ****. I wish America would not suck so bad and have a plan more like Canada! That is a whole different topic though....
I have been having stomach pain since I was about 7. It started out as GERD, back before they really knew what to call it, then in junior high I had the beginning of an ulcer, and then I think after I was a raging alcoholic for awhile (I think that is why) they got me for all kinds of things I have never even heard of. I would type them but I cant even spell them. Pretty much my intestines are too long, and they have too many curves, AND they don't produce muscle spasms to digest food like normal stomachs do. So that pretty much means, I am in pain almost every time I eat. That is why I quit eating meat....then once I found out about this endo deal and started researching, going to a nutrionist, she told me about certain foods to eat and not eat. and natural supplements and herbs that supp help....which didnt at all. and that is when i had to go to the ER. I have been to in total this year, 6 doctors. The only one I really trust is my current doc for the endo. But again, not much is known about it, so what am I supp to trust?!
I feel for everyone that has to go through numerous doc visits, pay all these bills, and still wonder, why can't you just fix it? I really do believe a lot of it is due to the massive amount of money the government makes in persc pill costs....it almost makes me sick. So of course the docs are gonna perscribe you anything they can think of. I paid $52 for a non inflamm pill that did NOTHING. nothing at all. its called celebrex, stay away from it!
I think I am going to see how this new stuff works I got yesterday, and what the alt med doc has to say.....Then of course the surgery results. I know I will be back on something during that time, but I am just going to take like 2 with me (im only home to sleep) so even if I do want more, I wont have them on me.
but who knows what will happen.
I feel for you when you are in severe pain. My fear of ever having that much pain again is really the reason I wanted to make sure I had pain pills. To avoid that horrible feeling....ugghhh....
gotta get some actual work done now :)
i'll be around tomw.
have a good, clean night everyone.....
I have been having stomach pain since I was about 7. It started out as GERD, back before they really knew what to call it, then in junior high I had the beginning of an ulcer, and then I think after I was a raging alcoholic for awhile (I think that is why) they got me for all kinds of things I have never even heard of. I would type them but I cant even spell them. Pretty much my intestines are too long, and they have too many curves, AND they don't produce muscle spasms to digest food like normal stomachs do. So that pretty much means, I am in pain almost every time I eat. That is why I quit eating meat....then once I found out about this endo deal and started researching, going to a nutrionist, she told me about certain foods to eat and not eat. and natural supplements and herbs that supp help....which didnt at all. and that is when i had to go to the ER. I have been to in total this year, 6 doctors. The only one I really trust is my current doc for the endo. But again, not much is known about it, so what am I supp to trust?!
I feel for everyone that has to go through numerous doc visits, pay all these bills, and still wonder, why can't you just fix it? I really do believe a lot of it is due to the massive amount of money the government makes in persc pill costs....it almost makes me sick. So of course the docs are gonna perscribe you anything they can think of. I paid $52 for a non inflamm pill that did NOTHING. nothing at all. its called celebrex, stay away from it!
I think I am going to see how this new stuff works I got yesterday, and what the alt med doc has to say.....Then of course the surgery results. I know I will be back on something during that time, but I am just going to take like 2 with me (im only home to sleep) so even if I do want more, I wont have them on me.
but who knows what will happen.
I feel for you when you are in severe pain. My fear of ever having that much pain again is really the reason I wanted to make sure I had pain pills. To avoid that horrible feeling....ugghhh....
gotta get some actual work done now :)
i'll be around tomw.
have a good, clean night everyone.....
I have endometriosis(and PCOS) too, and it sucks that I am judged for the medication I need. I have had surgery after surgery, put on Lupron (HORRIBLE DRUG!) three times, and tried everything else for this horrible disease. Nothing has worked. It always comes back. The only relief I get is from Vicodin. And I HATE the way people act about that fact. It is so unfair. So, I feel your pain...literally. :(
I was just trying to gather info......
Personally I would go to an er and not leave until someone could tell me what was wrong and how to treat it...........
I don't know where doctors are learning lately but there seems to be a lot of incompetent among the medical profession........
Personally I would go to an er and not leave until someone could tell me what was wrong and how to treat it...........
I don't know where doctors are learning lately but there seems to be a lot of incompetent among the medical profession........
yeah, it's part of it. but some is also new research (so methods are changing..) some is old school vs/ new (alternative) school methods of treating (east meets west;) etc.
and some - there just is no concrete answer - period. i'm going to slug one of my friends next time they say "why don't you just get the surgery???" (for my back) because it's all they know. what they don't know is now, all the research says DO NOT mess with your spine if you can avoid at all costs.
so sometimes.. there just ain't no answer. :-/
and some - there just is no concrete answer - period. i'm going to slug one of my friends next time they say "why don't you just get the surgery???" (for my back) because it's all they know. what they don't know is now, all the research says DO NOT mess with your spine if you can avoid at all costs.
so sometimes.. there just ain't no answer. :-/
thanks mj, that does help. I have an alternative medicine kind of doc that said he would see me before my surgery. Hopefully I can do that next week to see the results.
i come to this post because I would like to know other people's feedback that have actually been prescribed them for some reason or the other....People I know around here just buy them off people and eat like 4-5 at a time to get high. So asking them what they think will not do much :)
and that vic controlling me in a sense statement, I meant the bad little angel on my shoulder saying "you should take one more, the pain is still there" while the good angel says "no, this is enough you don't need anymore"....so i don't really know if that is controlling, but anytime there is a struggle like that in my head, I want to address it, just in case.
I also don't want to be on them for a good amount of time, because I know i will build up tolerence and then end up taking more....So that is a lot of the reason why I stopped. And, because I am not going to lie, I did like the euphoric feeling it brings along with the pain relief. I asked my doctor why it was the only thing that helped my pain and he said that with the type of pain that endo gives you, it has something to do with certain brain receptors, where the best pain relief is going to be by blocking the pain receptors from recognizing the pain. Or something like that....I am aware of the side effects it can do to your natural endorphins and such, and that worries me as well. But when I do get pain that is so bad I wait to go into a pain shock passout, I dont know what to do. The only thing that really solves it is a hysterectomy, but I am only 25, not married, and I dont want to make a decision I may regret in the future....so its too emotionally too.
it pretty much sucks all around!
i come to this post because I would like to know other people's feedback that have actually been prescribed them for some reason or the other....People I know around here just buy them off people and eat like 4-5 at a time to get high. So asking them what they think will not do much :)
and that vic controlling me in a sense statement, I meant the bad little angel on my shoulder saying "you should take one more, the pain is still there" while the good angel says "no, this is enough you don't need anymore"....so i don't really know if that is controlling, but anytime there is a struggle like that in my head, I want to address it, just in case.
I also don't want to be on them for a good amount of time, because I know i will build up tolerence and then end up taking more....So that is a lot of the reason why I stopped. And, because I am not going to lie, I did like the euphoric feeling it brings along with the pain relief. I asked my doctor why it was the only thing that helped my pain and he said that with the type of pain that endo gives you, it has something to do with certain brain receptors, where the best pain relief is going to be by blocking the pain receptors from recognizing the pain. Or something like that....I am aware of the side effects it can do to your natural endorphins and such, and that worries me as well. But when I do get pain that is so bad I wait to go into a pain shock passout, I dont know what to do. The only thing that really solves it is a hysterectomy, but I am only 25, not married, and I dont want to make a decision I may regret in the future....so its too emotionally too.
it pretty much sucks all around!
ugh.... i am so so sorry....
well, i think you answered your own question about the pills. you know that if you can not take them, don't take them. just by the thoughts you are having.. well, you already know.
and sister - i ain't one to preach tho. i recently went back on them after 3 weeks off because of severe back stuff. it has been 4 weeks now. today, i started to taper and to go back off.
you're dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. what is different for me tho, this time, is before i was terrified NOT to have them, because of my bouts of pain. now, i am terrified TO have them.
so again, if you can get off 'em, get off 'em. but there just is no hard and fast because chronic pain is so, so tough.
well, i just talked that into a circle, didn't i? lol. stay off if you can... if you can.
xoxox
mj
well, i think you answered your own question about the pills. you know that if you can not take them, don't take them. just by the thoughts you are having.. well, you already know.
and sister - i ain't one to preach tho. i recently went back on them after 3 weeks off because of severe back stuff. it has been 4 weeks now. today, i started to taper and to go back off.
you're dammed if you do, dammed if you don't. what is different for me tho, this time, is before i was terrified NOT to have them, because of my bouts of pain. now, i am terrified TO have them.
so again, if you can get off 'em, get off 'em. but there just is no hard and fast because chronic pain is so, so tough.
well, i just talked that into a circle, didn't i? lol. stay off if you can... if you can.
xoxox
mj
fyi.. alot of us have gone thru the very same thing - numerous diagnosis from numerous doctors. some medical conditions have no concrete answers... which SUCKS. i'm sure you saw Fladdicts posts yesterday...
anyway, you probably already know this. but alot of us are in that same boat unfortunately... and it is not an easy one.
anyway, you probably already know this. but alot of us are in that same boat unfortunately... and it is not an easy one.
I'm sorry but as an addict I don't feel qualified to diagnois your pain from a medical condition.....
I feel bad because your suffering and in pain..........
I have been told at least 6 different things to do just this year. So it is kind of hard to know what is the right thing I need to be doing.
Is this one doctor or numerous doctors........
Are you saying that doctors have no clue on what is wrong with you are how to treat you?
Regardless long term narcotics leads to dependency and sometimes addiction.......
Sorry I know I was not much help.......another question please how long has your stomach and intestines been jacked up?
I feel bad because your suffering and in pain..........
I have been told at least 6 different things to do just this year. So it is kind of hard to know what is the right thing I need to be doing.
Is this one doctor or numerous doctors........
Are you saying that doctors have no clue on what is wrong with you are how to treat you?
Regardless long term narcotics leads to dependency and sometimes addiction.......
Sorry I know I was not much help.......another question please how long has your stomach and intestines been jacked up?
hi... sorry for all you are going through.
while i hesitate to endorse continuing taking pain med's because of my own experience, if you have been taking them for some time, and still can take only 2 a day.. well, i don't know one pill popper/addict who can say that. the rest of us started at 2, then ended up at 6, 8, 10 and sometimes more.. as well, only you know your pain and what you really need.
so, if you've stuck at 2 pills a day only for quite some time, it seems to me you are not an addict... the only thing that concerned me however, was your statement about the vic's "controlling you" - i don't know what that means. that statement actually kinda says the opposite - ?
as for the pain mgmnt, while i don't know anything treatment-wise for your physical problems, in my opinion it is always worth looking at traditional medical as well as alternative (acupuncture, holisitc, etc.) methods of pain management as well.
did this help at all??? :-P
good luck to you faith...
mj
while i hesitate to endorse continuing taking pain med's because of my own experience, if you have been taking them for some time, and still can take only 2 a day.. well, i don't know one pill popper/addict who can say that. the rest of us started at 2, then ended up at 6, 8, 10 and sometimes more.. as well, only you know your pain and what you really need.
so, if you've stuck at 2 pills a day only for quite some time, it seems to me you are not an addict... the only thing that concerned me however, was your statement about the vic's "controlling you" - i don't know what that means. that statement actually kinda says the opposite - ?
as for the pain mgmnt, while i don't know anything treatment-wise for your physical problems, in my opinion it is always worth looking at traditional medical as well as alternative (acupuncture, holisitc, etc.) methods of pain management as well.
did this help at all??? :-P
good luck to you faith...
mj
well, with all medication that I take, unfortunately one of the side effects always includes "may cause intestinal pain, but remember your doctor has perscribed this because they feel the benefits are greater than the side effects" or some nonsense like that. I had him check my stomach and liver to make sure they weren't being abused with the meds, and it came back okay on that. (not taking into consideration the stomach probs already exsisting) the narcotic med is for the pain in my uterus and surrounding areas. look up endometriosis if you are unaware of it. people get the run around forever because doctors still don't know what exactly causes it, or how to fix it. So it's not a good situation all and all....
i was just wanting suggestions. on how to Help the pain.
i was just wanting suggestions. on how to Help the pain.
well medically, I have been told at least 6 different things to do just this year. So it is kind of hard to know what is the right thing I need to be doing. I think half of it is the fact that endometriosis is so unresearched as far as solutions the pain problem, and that of controling the pain. I have been referred to a pain specialist, but the only thing he would do is perscribe me more pills. You can not do physical therapy, and I have already tried (and still am doing) a drastic diet change. So I have done all I know to do in this situation.
I have multiple issues aside from the endo......my stomach and intestines are all jacked up as well. So far all my other organs have come back okay....but I still have this issue.
The vicodins have been controlling me in a sense, that is why I am on this board to ask advice from people that have the same problem with managing severe pain.
I have never exceeded more than 4 in one day, and that was only the first week I was out of the ER, after that I would not let myself eat more than 2. The reason why I am worried, is because it is the only taking away the pain sensation, but I know what kind of damage this medication can also do to a person.
That is why I would like any suggestions anyone has.
I have multiple issues aside from the endo......my stomach and intestines are all jacked up as well. So far all my other organs have come back okay....but I still have this issue.
The vicodins have been controlling me in a sense, that is why I am on this board to ask advice from people that have the same problem with managing severe pain.
I have never exceeded more than 4 in one day, and that was only the first week I was out of the ER, after that I would not let myself eat more than 2. The reason why I am worried, is because it is the only taking away the pain sensation, but I know what kind of damage this medication can also do to a person.
That is why I would like any suggestions anyone has.
If you have a bad stomach doesn't narcotic pain pills cause more pain when they are disolving in your stomach......?
Welcome to the forum............
I hope that you do what is required medically to fix your stomach so that narcotics are not a consideration................
I have a question for you please......
Do you think you control the Vics or other narcotic pain pills or do the pills control you?
I hope that you do what is required medically to fix your stomach so that narcotics are not a consideration................
I have a question for you please......
Do you think you control the Vics or other narcotic pain pills or do the pills control you?
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