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need advice or at least an answer to a question
Hey sorry to bother you folks again, but I kinda made a temporarily fell off the wagon. Anyway here's the question. I've been on subs since the beginning of October but they are a pain in the butt to actually take. That and I end up so badly backed up that somtimes I intentionally allow myself to go into withdraw just to clear every thing out (I know TMI) anyhow an opportunity to get some 30 mg roxies for cheap 15 bucks a piece so I jumped on it and bought 4 ate 2, and banged 2. I'm still a little messed up and my wife will be home soon and I need to straighten up Pronto. So if I take a sub, will it push the Oxy off my receptors and sober me up. Please help this was just one slip, and I'm going back on my subs tommorow. Please help time is a factor here. Thanks from an idiot
No judgement here, but to hit the beginning of your problem, using an enema, no matter how icky it sounds, will soften the stool and allow you not to have such a pain in the butt. Maybe suboxone isn't the right taper tool you need. Because, if you are immediately going to roxy and oxy so fast, maybe it's time to talk to the doctor about a different treatment, and definetely time to reach out to a local NA AA or All Anon chapter so you can people to lean on when you are suffering through the pain of opoid pain, dependence and withdrawal. Suboxone does relieve the opiates in your system, and I'm sorry if too personal here, but it's a bit scary to see you go back to old habits of opiates knowing this.
Also, after taking suboxone for a bit, your tolerance you have felt for opiates goes down, and you put yourself in a dangerous position in self dosing. I don't want to sound preachy preachy to you. You sound like someone who is hurting, who has reached out to get help, and the help you found is not working. There are other methods of opiate treatment, have you tried those, and do you have a sponsor or a sober friend who can help you?
Also, seriously, enemas will clear you up. TMI I know but they do work,
Also, after taking suboxone for a bit, your tolerance you have felt for opiates goes down, and you put yourself in a dangerous position in self dosing. I don't want to sound preachy preachy to you. You sound like someone who is hurting, who has reached out to get help, and the help you found is not working. There are other methods of opiate treatment, have you tried those, and do you have a sponsor or a sober friend who can help you?
Also, seriously, enemas will clear you up. TMI I know but they do work,
Robin, I wish there was a way to gold star your post...I agree w every single word!!!
Please take heed, fly!
Please take heed, fly!
So there ya go. The relapse started in your head.
A program of recovery isn't even an option for you, imo. It's a necessity. I don't know why folks are so afraid of 12 step groups. Yes, there are some really weird ones, but there are groups that literally save people's lives. Find Open Stand Up meetings, sit in the front and just LISTEN. You'll hear a bunch of stories, and then you'll hear your own.
They can be scary..n/a especially can be hard-core, but there are a zillion A/A meetings around and I've been to some that I will literally NEVER forget; they made such a lasting impression on me. I saw a biker from Hell's Angels get up and cry like a baby (he had the whole room in tears) talking about his obsession with booze and drugs.) Another group had a 79 year old nun who was secretly drinking and taking pills. Man, I will always remember her. Her story touched the lives of at least 40 people in the room that night.
The program works. It really, truly does. If there is something you don't like, then ignore it. But get into something that forces you to face your disease with other like-minded folks. 'Cause that little slip of yours is a red flag.
Bless you honey...now go to a meeting!
Hugs
-Robin
A program of recovery isn't even an option for you, imo. It's a necessity. I don't know why folks are so afraid of 12 step groups. Yes, there are some really weird ones, but there are groups that literally save people's lives. Find Open Stand Up meetings, sit in the front and just LISTEN. You'll hear a bunch of stories, and then you'll hear your own.
They can be scary..n/a especially can be hard-core, but there are a zillion A/A meetings around and I've been to some that I will literally NEVER forget; they made such a lasting impression on me. I saw a biker from Hell's Angels get up and cry like a baby (he had the whole room in tears) talking about his obsession with booze and drugs.) Another group had a 79 year old nun who was secretly drinking and taking pills. Man, I will always remember her. Her story touched the lives of at least 40 people in the room that night.
The program works. It really, truly does. If there is something you don't like, then ignore it. But get into something that forces you to face your disease with other like-minded folks. 'Cause that little slip of yours is a red flag.
Bless you honey...now go to a meeting!
Hugs
-Robin
Yeah I'll find a meeting to go to tomorrow, I had honestly been having dreams about getting high and stuff lately it's been a bit of a mental obsession. I can see how it happened. I didn't even get the dudes number, so no repeat business I just wasn't even thinking how close this was to my appointment. Which also turns out to be my birthday, but I forgot that too
I remember you...I'm sorry this happened to you. They say that relapses happen WAY before we actually take the pill or whatever it is. It starts in our heads first...I think you absolutely have to find an N/A group that works for you and then go every single day...cling to it like you did the drugs at one point. There are all KINDS of different groups out there..some are really rough, some raw, some more compassionate...go out there and visit a dozen different ones and make one your home group.
Get to know people, exchange numbers...honey, you would really benefit from a sponsor.
That soul crushing depression you described...that is exactly the kind of stuff you drag yourself to a meeting and just spill to everyone. They'll get you through it, trust me. There is magic in a room full of people who want to get well....I don't mean to come off like a 12-step Nazi, but it's worth trying, as you said, you have "0" answers right now.
Good luck sweetie. Stick around here.
Hugs,
-Robin
Get to know people, exchange numbers...honey, you would really benefit from a sponsor.
That soul crushing depression you described...that is exactly the kind of stuff you drag yourself to a meeting and just spill to everyone. They'll get you through it, trust me. There is magic in a room full of people who want to get well....I don't mean to come off like a 12-step Nazi, but it's worth trying, as you said, you have "0" answers right now.
Good luck sweetie. Stick around here.
Hugs,
-Robin
Yeah there's prescribed to me I'm supposed to see my sub doc Friday he drug test me every time hopefully yesterday's Oxy will be long gone by then. I don't know what would happen if I did test positive he holds my xanax script too, so if I were to be cut off I would be beyond totally screwed.
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