need to help a friend off smack, subbies?

[gazzat123]

hope someone out there can help. I have recently fallen for a girl who I have found out has a serious heroin addiction. she predominantly smokes it but has occasionally injected. she really wants to get clean & I believe her as I can see the person behind the drug. she has a son who was taken away from her & needs to be clean to stand any chance of being involved in his life. this is her main motivation, another reason I know she means it.
She has asked if I can get her subbies to help her get off & I really want to help but need some advice.
should it be subutex or soboxone to start, will these actually help & how can I get them in the uk.
she doesn't want to go to the Dr's as this will admit to the authorities she is still using and put pay to any hope she has of seeing her son.
please help it's killing me seeing her hurting herself so bad every day & I know she is so much better than what she does.

thanks in advance

[Deb179]

GREAT NEWS Gaz !!!!!!
I hope you can be her strength...everyone deserves to be loved !!!!
Will be looking forward to your updates :)

[gazzat123]

All,
Actually got to the drug centre Fri, seems like she does really want to be clean. Over to the docs followed by the drug centre again Monday, hopefully anyway.
Thanks for all your advice & support.
If/when we sort the subbies programme I'll let y'all know
Gaz x

[Smalltownmom]

Gaz That's fantastic news! Treatment will help her physically and mentally. Just be warned if she takes the suboxone route that she only stay on it for a couple months. It is made up of a opiate blocker and an OPIATE! She can't get high off it. If used correctly it will be to her advantage. For myself, I was on it way too long. Err on my doctor and myself. After a year when I wanted to get off it, it took almost a year to taper. Then I did have bad, not horrible, wds. I hope that helps a bit. Good luck and keep us update :)

[Deb179]

Gaz.
What ever you choose to do...just know we're here for you.
There is no right or wrong , time will tell where you need to go with this relationship
my best to you & she :)

[jifmoc]

P.S- You have a great opportunity to protect yourself right now. Your plan is going to the drug center tomorrow. The addict's mantra is "I'll do it tomorrow." I mean, what is stopping her doing it today?

So just be prepared that this may not workout the way you plan tomorrow. Have a back up plan for yourself. And get to a meeting!!!

[jifmoc]

Gaz- you "detach w/ love" to preserve your sanity. That means, you can love her w/o being involved in her addiction.

You see how you were ready to give up on humanity? That's life w/ an addict (a using one.) It's called cunning, baffling, and powerful. That's what addiction is. Again, for your sanity, because that's what matters here, please please go to an Alanon or naranon meeting. I've been in alanon and it will completely change your thinking. You can feel sane. I can't say this strongly enough.