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pregnant going through horrible withdrawals. PLEASE HELP

I'm in my fourth month of pregnancy and trying to get sober. I have been a heavy pain pill user for the last 5 years. Up to 15 percocet 10s a day, or up to 28 norco 10s a day, up to 8 methadone 10s a day or up to 3 opana 10s a day ( snorted the ops). To be clear it was never all of this in one day but that many of whichever I cld get for the day or a combination of these. I have wanted to quit for a long time, but I have 3 kids anda full time job to maintain and full time school. I have no family here so nobody to help out with the kids while I fo through this. Every time i wld quit...within hours I was severely sick and unable to take care of my children or go to work. I have always caved. When i found out that I was pregnant a in in December I immediately wanted to quit and dead set on doing so...until finding out that withdrawaling like that ckd kill my baby. So I lowered what I was taking but continued to use through my first trimester. I am now weeks into my 2nd trimester and feel like it is a safe time to stop. I plan to stay sober even after the baby is born. I AM DONE. I am 40 hours sober and so sick that i haven't slept in 2 nights, i try to eat but immediately vomit and the diarrhea is nonstop. Which means that my baby nor myself am getting any food...or fluids. O throw up liquids immediately also. I have also been so cold but disgustingly sweaty and feel like a house is on top of me and cannot get up off the couch to take care of my kids. I do know that I cannot taper myself off...I'm an addict and being realistic because i want this soo badly. I want to be a good mommy and have a good life with my kids. Currently i am taking the prescribed dosage of liquid immodium and pepto and also drinking pedialyte for the electrolytes but can only take tiny sips every hour and a half. I have heard that I need to take more immodium than the bottle says, but want to get everyone else's opinion on that any other advice that you can give me to help out with the withdrawals. I need to be able to eat and stay hydrated as well as care for my kids. I do know there is no 100% fix for withdrawals. I did this to myself. I just need any advice you can give me. Please don't be judgemental. I am doing that enough to myself and am being completely honest so that I can get better and not give in. I've never gone even 24 hours without using... So i am already doing a lot better this time around. Can anyone help me please??
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First off QUIT taking the imodiom!! Another thing that's very bad for babe. You need to go see a doctor ASAP. They will find out because all babies "poop" is tested at birth. Those drugs will still be in there. Come forward now,its better you ask for help than looking like you're hiding it. Docs see this kind of thing all the time. You may not have family but all towns/city's have after care. Narcotics anon. You can't stay clean with out some form of aftercare. I hope for your babies sake and yours you get the help you need. You're not alone, I'm a mother of 2 and was addicted to pain pills. And probably a 10000 other mums. You can get better.
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And keep up the drinking. No matter how many times you vomit. Get Popsicles. Gatorade. Beef,veg or chicken broth. Always have something beside you. I don't know if you can take melatonin well pregnant (read the box) but it helps with sleep. Take warm Epsom salt baths for your sore body and rls. Not to hot,you can get dizzy from being pregnant in to hot of a bath. Listen to soothing music. Or cartoons in the back ground. And snuggle your kids. Lots of loves helps too! :))
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Honey,

What is it you want to hear?  That you'll be just fine and the baby wont' be affected?  That just isn't necessarily the truth.  YOU will get thru the withdrawals...we ALL did...they are horrible, but won't kill you.

BUT.  You're pregnant...you have a developing life inside of you and you are putting TREMENDOUS strain on that fetus.  

If you were my friend, I would go pick you up, arrange for someone to watch the kids, and drive you to an ER.  You must, must MUST get medical attention.

Does your primary care doc know you are pregnant? Do you have an ob-gyn?  

This isn't anything to mess around with.   Please, muster up that strength and courage I know you have, plus the love for that baby, and get medical attention, and I mean NOW.

Now is no time for pride.  Tell them EVERYTHING. No stone unturned...the whole, naked truth.   Just spill it.  It's the brave, honorable thing to do...and you sound like an honorable woman who just wants to do the right thing.

Remember: whatever you are going thru, so is the fetus.  You are dehydrated, so is the fetus.  You can't get nourishment, neither can your baby.

Please just do it.   Ask, beg, whatever it takes, for someone to watch your kids, and just go to a hospital.  Tell them you're in severe withdrawal, how much you were taking (DON'T diminish the amount) and how many hours you've got clean.

Let us know how you are doing.  Good luck honey...I'm praying for you.

Hugs,
-Robin

PS NO judgments...we've all been where you are...except I wasn't pregnant.  If I was, I would absolutely NOT go thru w/d's except under medical supervision. You don't want to harm this baby in a way that cannot be undone.

I'm sorry if I sound aggressive, but this is, imo, a situation which warrants action.  
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Congratulations on your new baby and your fresh start. I've read other posts where people have taken twice the dose of Imodium (immodium) with no ill effects.
So take more. Also I know it's hard to eat. But a spoon of peanut butter will help. Try 1/2 of a banana. Or just one bite as often as possible.
Powdered packs of Emer C vitamins. You might be able to drink that.
Try to soak in the bathtub. Maybe wear your swim suit and keep the door open to keep an eye on the other children.
  Chicken broth may stay down. I like the kind called Better than Bullion sold in glass jars at supermarket.
    Did you get any advice from your Obyn Dr?  I understand your addiction and the idea you are 40 hours into the CT. It would be good to know what the dr says and thinks. I don't even know if pregnant women can take supplements. For example melatonin helps people sleep.
  Can you call the local NA and request a sponsor that can talk you through this time over the phone?
  I think it's very brave of you to stop taking opioids. You can last these wds.
But, I think it would be wise to get your Drs help. Set up an appt tomorrow.
  There will be more people posting shortly. Hopefully more knowledgable than I am. It was just important for me to let you know we care. There's all love and support here. You don't need to feel afraid. No one is any better or worse than anyone else. We're all just here doing the very best we can to support each other. Please feel free to post as often as you like. Maxy
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Sorry. I just read you can not take the Imodium (immodium). But I totally agree with the above posters. You need your Dr on board. You need more help and specialized advice than us volunteers can offer.
Please keep posting. We will be here for moral and spiritual support. But you need a Drs advice right away. Much love your way. Maxy
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You need to get into your doctor right away or the ER.  Please tell them exactly what you have told us.  Dont take any more immodium unless ok'd by a doctor.  The baby is feeling what you are and then some so please get into the doctor.  Let us know how you are doing.
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Yes, I totally agree.   There is no judgment here, sweetie. We want to see you and your baby WELL.  

Can you find someone to watch the kids?  If all else fails, bring them to the ER with you, but please, go...God Bless you honey...
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I want to say thank you to each one of you for your support and advice. I did not find any of the comments aggressive at all. There was no judgement from anyone... Just blunt honesty..which is EXACTLY what I want and need no matter how difficult of a pill it is to swallow (no pun intended). In response to telling my dr or obgyn...the ONLY reason why I have not is because they will not see me until my insurance is straightened out. I did have insurance and even had an initial appt with my obs nurse practioner. But I didn't get to meet my ob that day to discuss this with her. Before leaving the office that day I immediately scheduled the soonest available appt with my obgyn. I started a new job the following day and lost my insurance (because it was medicaid). I still didn't cancel my appointment in hopes that she wld still see me and bill me for the visit. I was wrong. The office called the morning of my appointment and said they cannot see me until I have insurance. I have 30 more days until I am able to get the insurance through my job. That is when my probationary period is over and i am eligible. As soon as I have insurance I absolutely plan to get in immediately and be 100% honest with my dr. I know that this is no time for pride or lies as this is my baby's health that needs to be monitored. I truly am a good mom to my children as hard as that may be to believe. They have never gone without because of my addiction and I have remained very hands on throughout even volunteering to help with their school plays and musicals. I am definitely not claiming to be as good of a mother as I could be if I were sober but just that I've not ever been negligent. Which why every time I have tried to get sober I have failed. Because once the withdrawals are so bad that I can't even get off the couch or am so sick that I am unable to be a mom to them...I give in. I refuse to do that this time. I decided to get sober immediately after finding out that I was pregnant. That is when I went 22 hours with nothing sicker than i had ever been in my life. That's when i began researching getting sober while pregnant and the effect s that withdrawals could have on my baby. Everything I found said that going through withdrawals in the first trimester could kill the baby. So that is when I drastically reduced what I was taking to just enough to keep me from withdrawals...not enough to get high. After my first trimester ended I began the process of setting myself up for success the best I could until I could see my dr. I cut all ties to my so called "friends" who sold to me. I deleted their numbers and had their numbers blocked from my phone. I then started beginning new daily routines. I then set goals for myself that I knew I could not reach if I didn't stay sober. Which is why I enrolled into college with the goal of being the first person in generations of my family to go to and graduate college. Once I had begun all of this is when I quit. The illness is complete misery. I seem to be keeping the pedialyte down now and even a coke. I was also just able to keep some Plain waffles down as well. I ate four of them lol. The np did tell me that I am able to take benadryl to help with the nightly congestion. So i will stick to the benadryl for sleep since she has approved that. I also made myself get up, as difficult as it was, after posting for help and made myself get dressed and fold some laundry. It might seem extremely minor and silly to be proud of something so small, but to me it is a huge step and accomplishment. And to be honest it made me feel a little better.

    ANOTHER HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT...AND IT HAS ME IN TEARS OF HAPPINESS AND JOY...one of the people whose number i blocked texting me from a different number since i had theirs blocked. He was offering me pills at a ridiculously cheap price. WITHOUT HESITATION I TURNED THEM DOWN!!! he then lowered the price even more and not only did I say no again but threatened to call the police if he contacted me again. I CANNOT BEGIN TO EXPLAIN THE FEELING THAT TOOK OVER ME WHEN I DID THIS. Especially being in probably the most difficult part of the withdrawals. I am so damn proud of myself. That is when i decided that no matter how impossible it seemed..that i was getting off this couch and doing something productive and that I was going to eat no matter if it made me sick or not. I've also been making sure to take my prenatal vitamin so that i at least have some vitamins going to me and the baby. I also bought some naked juice which is nothing except a smoothie packed with fruits and vegetables. It's an all natural vitamin and nutrient packed deliciousness. I seem to be keeping that down now as well. I know that tge worst will not be over for a few more days and that even then I have a long long time before my brain and body will be back to normal functioning. No katter how long I have been sober when I get my insurance and see my dr I am still immediately telling her the full truth.

Thank you all for being so supportive and caring and giving me your honest advice and not holding back but not judging me at the same time. Please please continue to comment and be supportive as just the few comments you have posted have helped me to be strong so far and not feel alone. I still have a ways to go but know that because of people like you...i will make it through this. 42 hours sober and counting.
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Honey...please consider what I'm about to say.   And I say this as a 53 year old woman who works in healthcare.  I'm not a doctor, but I feel STRONGLY that you cannot wait another 30 days.

Sweetheart:  What you are going thru, in my opinion, constitutes an emergency.  And that is what Emergency Rooms are for.  You are in MAJOR distress and you are carrying a tiny life inside of you.  And that means the tiny life is in MAJOR distress also.  

Go to an E.R.  Walk in, and tell them what is happening.  They HAVE to treat you, regardless of insurance status.  

Your baby cannot wait 30 days..pls go.

Hugs,
-Robin
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I have to Ditto the above. I too was a nurse for yrs and now I am 58..
Go to ANY Dr and tell them now!! You could also call back to your Dr and talk to the nurse regarding "WHY" you need in there NOW! I know they will take you and bill you later. The Baby comes first! You can also go to a clinic that goes by a scale. They too will bill you. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT 30 more days!
This will make you calm down to know how the baby is doing and they will either give you a taper plan or comfort meds. I have seen this kind of post on here so so so many times.

On the other hand, I am very PROUD of YOU to turn the meds down at this time. Try to make it all legal and under a Drs care for the sake of the Baby & You.

You can take some Lemon water and add just a small dash of sea salt to it. This will help keep you hydrated. You need to get those electrolytes going. The pedialyte is a good one too. Get some PROTEIN powder and mix it with some berries or whatever. The berries are good for drawing out toxins.You should take some magnesium, cal, potassium, and some zinc, as these help relax the muscles and such. Make sure you are soaking in the bath with the Epsom salt, as this too has magnesium and helps draw out toxins and relaxes the muscles and such.

BUT!!! Get to a DR ASAP!!! Just for the sake of it all!
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Hi, now is not the time for talking, it's the time for doing. No excuses. There aren't any. GO to the ER for the life of your baby. Go now.
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I will call the office first thing tomorrow morning and ask to speak directly to my dr about the urgent need to be seen. Hopefully as you ladies have said...this will change my having to wait. If she still won't then I will go to the er. I am making calls tonight to everyone I know to find them a sitter because they don't need to hear what is going on. I am the ONLY family they have and they look up to me and are always telling me that I am the best mom in the whole world and I don't wamt to let them down. However if i can't find a sitter then I will just have to take them with. I thought that since I am able to keep some food and fluids down now that we would be ok until next month. However, i am nor dr or nurse and want what is best for my baby. So I am here to listen to and take advice. That is exactly what I plan to do. I really really hope they don't put me on a taper because I have already gone longer than ever in the last 5 years without taking even one, I am finally able to eat and drink, and to be honest I absolutely do not trust myself with the meds to take them as prescribed. I know that sounds absolutely terrible but my goal is to be completely honest so that I can get the help, advice and care that i need.
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Very Smart of YOU! Yes having the meds around in our hands is a no-no for so many. It they do give you meds discuss the fact that you need someone to hand them out to you..Maybe they will just give you the non-addicting comfort meds. They have come so far about all of this in a more scientific way and what meds they have found out that do help.
I am Proud of you for GOING to the DR asap. This sure will calm you down and you now have a Professional who can watch you closely. As stated, we are just Addicts in recovery and not Drs. I will be Praying for You and the New Baby..How Exciting..lol
Keep us Updated.
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You have a GREAT attitude!  You are so open and willing...plus you are HONEST!!  Those are rare character traits....and they will take you far.

You have a good plan.....please keep posting and let us know how you're doing, ok?  We really care and are here to root you on~  
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UPDATE.....I made it past the 48 hour mark.!!!! Huge accomplishment for me. On top of it I am all of the sudden pigging out on everything in site and drinking a crazy amoubt of water and juice. Glass after glass. The vomiting has stopped as well. And surprisingly.... I am finally wiped out and going to get some sleep. So proud of my major accomplishnent today. It was so nice to feel ny precious one moving around in my belly like crazy today....she must have regained some energy after getting a flipping buffet of food and some juice. Feeling great. Thank you so much for today. Im going to make this...no going vack.
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Wow that is amazing!! Just since your last post this afternoon when you threw up quicker than you could get it down. Now you're pigging out and drinking non stop! This is great news!! Hopefully each day keeps getting better and better for you!! Hope you sleep well tonight too!! :))
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Something isn't right here. The long positive posts, the sudden change in your appetite, the idea that you will get sleep your second day into this, the new job during detox.....I hope you can see a doctor today. You are so obviously a good mom and a sweet person. We have all been in your shoes though many of us did not have the added pressure of being pregnant. It is a tough mountain to climb. We are pulling for you. You can and will do this!
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all the posts i agree with. just take care of yourself please. you have to be your pregnant and if you don't stop now your taking chances of the baby being born addicted or have severe issues when born. 1st tiamester is the one most critical for taking good care of your self. what you take in goes to the baby too. you have a good support team here. they have been good to me with from the heart advice. take care huggs linda
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It's never a good idea to abruptly stop opiates at any time during pregnancy. The danger of miscarriage may still exist for you. Withdrawals are very stressful to the fetus.  When you mentioned that the baby was very active, it could mean that it's under stress.

You really need to be evaluated very soon.  The safest way to do this is tapering and only under the guidance of a physician.  

Best of luck-
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Almost 64 hours now and feeling better. I went and got checked out and TOLD THE COMPLETE TRUTH!!! They checked me out including my vitals, they also monitored the baby the entire time and they asked a series of questions. The baby is doing well. Her heart rate is good and steady. The ultrasound shows that she is in good health. They gave me an iv of fluids. I let them know that I've been able to keep fluids and food down since late last night. They encouraged me to keep eating and drinking and recommended Tylenol for any muscle aches. He also said that immodium is ok in the prescribed dosage but not for more than 3 days. So everything went really well. I am still doing good staying clean and eating and drinking. I was also able to sleep for 6 straight hours last night. Which is a huge improvement from 3 hours. Definitely following everyone's advice and also my care plan. Thank God my baby looks good and healthy. He said the worst of it should be over now that I am able to eat and have a little energy back. He said the aches may continue for a little while but that the biggest struggle now will mainly be the mental part of addiction and withdrawal. However that is one area that I am doing surprisingly good with. I refuse to even let my mind go in that direction. I was so proud when i was able to say no to someone trying to sell to me...as sick as I was. I was probably at my lowest point when i got the texts. That was a huge boost in my motivation and determination.
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That's great!! So glad you came clean to your doctor. Sorry to have told you to quit the immodium,but I was very very sick through my first pregnancy with a bad flu and I took imodium (immodium). My doc told me to quit ASAP because it can cause birth defects. It's got something in it called loperamide. Which is considered an opiod,but it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier so you can't get high. But it does stop your bowels up like a perc or a hydro would because you have opiod receptors in your gut that the lopermide connects too. Just remember,everything that goes in your body will go in your baby. I wouldn't recommend taking it very long. But if your doc says it's ok then I guess it's ok. Just becareful!!
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I haven't needed the immodium at all today but still told him that I took it yesterday and asked if I should not take it anymore. He said that since I am out of my first trimester it is not AS risky. He also said that the immodium risks are less likely and better than the risk of stress on my body and baby. Especially due to dehydration. He said no more than the recommended dose and for not more than 3 days. I only used it one day. He was pleased with how I have handled quitting and also the withdrawals. He did recommend a support group of some kind and/or NA. I do feel lioe with this being so very new and not even having a full 3 days under my belt yet..that listening to people talk about pill or narcotic addiction right now would be extremely difficult. So I am going to attend on my 7th day of sobriety. Every day, hour, and minute is a blessing and an accomplishment and an NA meeting os how i will celebrate my one week of sobriety. My baby and children...along with myself mean more to me than any high.
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I am glad you went to the Dr. As I mentioned above, I knew they would see you.
However, the period of time for withdraws Varies according to the individual patient and dose and length of time on the drug. Different drugs have different timing or slightly different types of w/ds. I have detoxed from other opiates which was a bit different then my Methadone. The benzo to me was the worse!

I sure do pray that the Dr knows what he is saying. Having not even 3 whole days could be the beginning or you could be on a down hill????? To early to tell from all that I have experienced. I do wish you the best on the physical right now.

He was right about the mental. I started to use at a very young, young age. (Dumb)..I was told it would take about 2yrs for my brain to balance back..This Brain Dr was right on the Spot!!
Alot of brain chems, hormones, transmitters and such get all out of whack.
Billions of wiring up stairs.

The Substances hit many parts of the brain like the Serotonin, Endorphins, Gabba, Nor-epinephrine and so on. Opiates stop the Serotonin from producing it's own serotonin which can stop the recycling.  Drugs of all kinds hit different areas as well. This is why the MENTAL is the hardest. We need to keep in mind that it does take time, and with time will take alot of patience. Being intune with what is going on, will help you to understand it is all just part of the process. I gotten many PMs for over the past couple of yrs from people who are dealing with this Emotional-Mental thing even at a yr. SO just try to stay in the day and take each step in Baby Steps. Try not to put the cart before the horse. I am not trying to scare you or be negative, I am just being real about Addiction and with someone who has used for a longer period of time.

Getting some Support right now is a good thing. You will learn alot behind them doors of AA/NA and it also keeps your mind re-directed. When we are Addicts with this disease, we need all the Support we can get. It only takes one pill for some Addicts and off goes yet another part of the Brain, the Pleasure Part called the Mid-Brain. (survival)..Addictive Drug/Alcohol/Nicotine craves this like there lives depend on it and no other survival instincts matter anymore.

Well enough of my BS. I just learned alot about this in a more Scientific way and it WILL NOT save you , but it helps to know what we are up against.

I pray that YOU & the BABY will be fine and that YOU & the BABY will not be harmed going through this detox. Keep eating very Healthy food to get the good vit/min and drink TONS of fluids to help pull the toxins out. I know you will be taking some good vit/min..This will help to build your immune system back up. Good Luck and let us know how you are feeling. If you get to feeling the detox real bad, hit the ER asap..
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First of all let me say that I'm proud of you for making the decision to get clean for the sake of your baby (and kids).  I'm so glad you didn't wait to go to the doctor!  I'm sorry you don't have family around to help - but you did get pregnant so there must be someone right??  And you already have children...I hope their father can help if needed,  I wish I lived close, cuz we all need each other right now.  Stay strong sweetie!  You can (and are!) doing this. Prayers to you and yours.  xo
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