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please give advice....
.I have been on Percocet for 2 years. I kept having to take more and more until I was taking about 11 a day. When my prescritpion would run out, I would go to people who I knew had pain meds and ask for meds. When that failed, I'd go to an Urgent Care or Immediate Care facility. I have been off the percocet for 3 wks but am now on tramadol to help get off of it (actually, thats all i could get my hands on). I had an apt to go back to the dr this morning for my percocet refill and my dr found out i had been going other places. so, she cut me off. now, as of yesterday, i took 15 tramadols per day until today. I took ONE this morning because thats all I had left. That was 4 hours ago. I have a child and husband that neither of them know I'm on pain meds. I DO have hip pain but am wondering if its not worse just becuase of the meds. i'm hoping when i get off the meds, the hip pain will all just be in my head. I do have hip impingment, torn labram, bone spurs, fluid, arthritis, etc. But my question is this.... is there anyone out there who is willing to listen to me and help me thru this? I have no more pain meds left. My doctor found out because my insurance company sent a letter to all the doctors i've seen and all the pharmacists that i've used saying that i've been using too much pain med. please help me. how can i make the withdrawals easier? I dont want anyone to know i'm going thru withdrawals...so i have zero support. its all just me and a bunch of lies. suppose to take my daughter to a big function tomorrow and i'm obligated to be there. what am i going to do? I need help with these withdrawals. how long will they last? what will ease them? please, someone help me and give me advice!
hi welcome to the forum sounds like you got yourself in a jam.....how long have you ben on the tram if its been a wile you have to taper off or risk seizure ive done every other pill but tram and only know what I read and it ant pritty coming off of it let me send one of or resident experts tramhater a p/m
she is a wealth of info on this med give here a few hr or mabe a day to respond mean wile look up the thomas recipe you will find it on the lower right of this page pick up the stuff suggested a hot soak goes a long way to releave symptoms let me sand that message off now she will be able to help you more then me good luck keep posting for support ......Gnarly
she is a wealth of info on this med give here a few hr or mabe a day to respond mean wile look up the thomas recipe you will find it on the lower right of this page pick up the stuff suggested a hot soak goes a long way to releave symptoms let me sand that message off now she will be able to help you more then me good luck keep posting for support ......Gnarly
I have been exactly where you are (still working on it). My best advice is to go to a Dr. that you feel will have mercy on you and set you up with a strict taper. You can even tell him you will come get your daily supply each am at his office. Let him know your goal is to be clean, but you can't go the withdrawals on your own. Maybe even your primary Dr. that cut you off will be on board? NOW is the time to stop! It is all a dead end scene , you don't want that.
That's good u whant to quit u not going to whant to go no where tomarow u b pill sick u need rest try and find some zs to help u sleep I been clean from pain pill for 14 days and its still a long hard road. I now about pain I fell of a roof 40 feet broke my back got a steal cage around my back bone broke my hip it got some steal plate there and shaterd both legs but still had to get off the pain pill eating 10-12 a day so u have to find other way to deal with the pain me I smoke pot now most doctors tell u that just trading one drug for another but u got to do it your way thre pain pill will kill u after I got off them they find a lot wrong with me that's 15years of pain pills. So good luck
Hi! To be perfectly honest, you aren't gonna feel too great tomorrow, but if you haven't taken percocet in three weeks, and you have only been taking the tram since then, maybe it won't be too terribly bad.
Pick up some Imodium today, and start taking it. It will help the stomach issues that are sure to be with you by tomorrow, and it does actually help some WDs also. You aren't going to be sleeping much, and there's not alot you can do to help that as far as OTC stuff. Melatonin might help. Nothing helped me. I hated that part!!!! Don't take anything with diphenhydramine in it. It will make you miserable. Makes it worse and not better!
Also, start a Super B Complex vitamin. Just trust me on that one! It will help. Drink gatorade and apple juice. They will help your restless legs and cramps and keep you hydrated. There is a supplement in the vitamin section called Cal-Mag-Zinc. Get them. They DO help WDs. I didn't believe it, but I got some because I was desperate, and they help! Take 4 morning and night.
Let me know how I can help! I've been off them since last March (2010) so it can be done! : )
Pick up some Imodium today, and start taking it. It will help the stomach issues that are sure to be with you by tomorrow, and it does actually help some WDs also. You aren't going to be sleeping much, and there's not alot you can do to help that as far as OTC stuff. Melatonin might help. Nothing helped me. I hated that part!!!! Don't take anything with diphenhydramine in it. It will make you miserable. Makes it worse and not better!
Also, start a Super B Complex vitamin. Just trust me on that one! It will help. Drink gatorade and apple juice. They will help your restless legs and cramps and keep you hydrated. There is a supplement in the vitamin section called Cal-Mag-Zinc. Get them. They DO help WDs. I didn't believe it, but I got some because I was desperate, and they help! Take 4 morning and night.
Let me know how I can help! I've been off them since last March (2010) so it can be done! : )
what contains diphenhydramin? And tramahater, how long will these WDs last? Also, is it true I could have a seizure coming off this med?
You're more likely to have them at the high dose you're on. I've never personally experienced or know anyone personally who has had one coming off of them. It's staying on them that caused me to have them. I wouldn't worry about it.
Benadryl contains it. Tylenol PM contains it. OTC sleep meds. I'd get some Nyquil and take one dose and also some Allteril. It's natural, and might help. You just have to go without sleep for a bit. It's unfortunately part of it and not much helps. : (
The longest you're looking at for the worst of it is about 5 days. That's the WORST of it. You will have sleep and energy issues for a while longer. But don't worry about all that now. Just get thru today, OK? That's the important thing.
Benadryl contains it. Tylenol PM contains it. OTC sleep meds. I'd get some Nyquil and take one dose and also some Allteril. It's natural, and might help. You just have to go without sleep for a bit. It's unfortunately part of it and not much helps. : (
The longest you're looking at for the worst of it is about 5 days. That's the WORST of it. You will have sleep and energy issues for a while longer. But don't worry about all that now. Just get thru today, OK? That's the important thing.
unfortunately, i had gotten my hands on a few loracets. i couldn't take it any more! start all over tomorrow I suppose. thats the end of the meds though... i have no access to any more.
Well, yes, you start over.....but what if you "get your hands on a few more?" Then what? At some point you have to just start and end the WD once and for all. It's so hard, but you're just punishing yourself by continuing this. Seems like you're just switching pills? Try to get the stuff in the Thomas Recipe today, and really give it an honest try. You'll be SO glad you did. I told you the stuff I used in a post above. Give it a try. It won't end until you get REALLY sick of living that way!
You can do it!
You can do it!
I really am sick of it! I'm tired of worrying how i'm gonna get the next pill. Ok... so, I took the last one a couple hours ago. I'm done now. Once and for all. Give me a little hope. When will I actually feel like getting out of bed again? Maybe Friday or Saturday? Give me some sort of goal...what do you think? I know its different for everyone...but give some sort of timeline. "Monday you'll feel this...., Tuesday you'll feel this....Wednesday should be like this...." Just to kinda give me some sort of idea what to expect. Please?!?! I just took my last pill a couple of hours ago. The anxiety is going to be what kills me! That and the back pain and nervous legs. Anyway... give me an idea. Just so I'll know what to expect.
I was taking 8-10 hydro 10/325 a day for a year or so. I am 28 days clean going cold turkey. I did the Thomas Recipe, took double the Imodium for the first 2 days. I did not take the TR tranks suggested..did not have them and did not want them. I was pretty miserable for about 4-5 days. Each day got a little better. The Imodium helps with both the trots and some of the withdrawal symptoms. It is doable. I took hot baths.
I came clean to my hubby and adult daughter and that helped a lot. Secrets cause anxiety and I did not need anymore. They were ok with it and glad I told them. I have heard others that they treated it like the flu and knew they would get better.
My energy gets better each day. I am actually happy to be alive and my brain is no longer fogged over. It is possible and it will end.
I promise the other side is pretty good. So far, the cravings are negligible and I hope they stay that way. I did it to have a clear head again and to feel again. Please try again and I hope you have the same results.
I came clean to my hubby and adult daughter and that helped a lot. Secrets cause anxiety and I did not need anymore. They were ok with it and glad I told them. I have heard others that they treated it like the flu and knew they would get better.
My energy gets better each day. I am actually happy to be alive and my brain is no longer fogged over. It is possible and it will end.
I promise the other side is pretty good. So far, the cravings are negligible and I hope they stay that way. I did it to have a clear head again and to feel again. Please try again and I hope you have the same results.
Valerian Root works great for anxiety. For the restless legs, bananas, tonic water (with quinine,) or Hylands Restful Legs will help. Ibuprofen will help with general aches and pains. Ice packs or heat for your back, depending on what works best for you. Keep drinking lots of fluids ... if you have trouble with keeping things down, try popsicles or ice chips. If you have trouble with vomiting, you need to take a good sip every 15 minutes.
Worrying about how bad the withdrawals will be will only make things worse. Just take it a moment at a time. Keep posting for support. Melatonin or Alteril can help if you have trouble sleeping. Take as many hot baths as you need. You'll get through this. It may not be nearly as bad as you're anticipating.
Worrying about how bad the withdrawals will be will only make things worse. Just take it a moment at a time. Keep posting for support. Melatonin or Alteril can help if you have trouble sleeping. Take as many hot baths as you need. You'll get through this. It may not be nearly as bad as you're anticipating.
you guys are wonderful! You are my only support system, so please don't leave me through this. I just need a week or two of your time and then I'll leave you alone. Please don't leave me. I have no one else.
You can do this. Just take it a day at a time (or an hour or a minute!) Keep hydrated, eat what you can, use the supplements in the Thomas Recipe and keep posting. (And I hope when you're done with the physical withdrawals, you'll look into some kind of aftercare. And I hope you'll keep posting here, both for yourself, and for what you can contribute to others.) I think you'll get great support here but you're also going to need support in real life, too; especially since you're not sharing with your family.
i looked at the thomas recipe. I have no access to valium! Do I just get the rest and go from there? I'm scared to death. I need hip replacement and I'm so scared I end up getting it and having to fight this demon again! I guess I'll worry about that later. Right now, I have major, MAJOR, anxiety....back pain...sweating rivers....my hip truly does hurt, restless legs.... diareah..... fever.
Hey, just get the rest of it. I didn't use Valium either. Everything you're having is normal and made worse by dread and fear. Do you have some imdodium in the house? Take some now if so. You should feel a little better by Wednesdayish. Just hang on! It's gonna be ok!
You can get by without the Valium. Try Valerian Root for the anxiety. I had been on Ativan and I think the Valerian Root works better and there's no worry about dependence on it. When I was in withdrawal, the sweating was really bad. I'd alternate between that and the chills. Soaking in a hot tub really helps (or hot showers if you don't have a tub.) The bananas, tonic water (with quinine) or Hylands Restful legs will help your legs. I had terrible restless legs this summer while hospitalized with an illness. My potassium was really low and they had to give me p otassium pills. I couldn't believe how much better it got when my potassium levels got better. That's why the bananas work. Orange juice also has a lot of potassium in it, if it's not too acidic.
All your symptoms are normal. Don't worry about what will happen with your hip replacement. You can work that out with your doctor when the time comes. It's possible he can give you something non-narcotic to help with the pain. (My neighbor had open heart surgery at 78. He took nothing but Tylenol and that relieved any pain he had. It's hard for me to believe but it's true. Not saying you'll be able to do that, but I think sometimes surgeons will give more than you need. My surgeon actually told me, "Don't worry about post-surgical pain. I'll have you snowed." And he did. To the point I was throwing up the whole way home.)
If you do need narcotics with your hip surgery, you'll be much more aware than you were in the past. They can taper you off slowly and only stay on it as long as necessary. I have bad chronic pain from an unsuccessful joint replacement in my thumb and I ended up with RSD. I am at the point that I've learned to manage my pain in different ways. Sometimes when you have chronic pain, you just have to learn to live with it. I'm not saying anyone should be in agony but for me, anyway, I'd rather deal with the pain than be dependent on narcotics.
You can also look into finding a good pain management team. Many pain management specialists do a lot of other things than just narcotics. They have procedures, other medications that are non-habit forming, and prescription gels and creams. You can find different ways to deal with your pain.
The worst of the physical part of this will be over for you in a few days. Have you thought about any support groups like AA/NA? It seems to make a difference for being successful in staying off the pills.
All your symptoms are normal. Don't worry about what will happen with your hip replacement. You can work that out with your doctor when the time comes. It's possible he can give you something non-narcotic to help with the pain. (My neighbor had open heart surgery at 78. He took nothing but Tylenol and that relieved any pain he had. It's hard for me to believe but it's true. Not saying you'll be able to do that, but I think sometimes surgeons will give more than you need. My surgeon actually told me, "Don't worry about post-surgical pain. I'll have you snowed." And he did. To the point I was throwing up the whole way home.)
If you do need narcotics with your hip surgery, you'll be much more aware than you were in the past. They can taper you off slowly and only stay on it as long as necessary. I have bad chronic pain from an unsuccessful joint replacement in my thumb and I ended up with RSD. I am at the point that I've learned to manage my pain in different ways. Sometimes when you have chronic pain, you just have to learn to live with it. I'm not saying anyone should be in agony but for me, anyway, I'd rather deal with the pain than be dependent on narcotics.
You can also look into finding a good pain management team. Many pain management specialists do a lot of other things than just narcotics. They have procedures, other medications that are non-habit forming, and prescription gels and creams. You can find different ways to deal with your pain.
The worst of the physical part of this will be over for you in a few days. Have you thought about any support groups like AA/NA? It seems to make a difference for being successful in staying off the pills.
Should I try to find another doctor who will refer me to a pain management clinic? Or just continue trying to stick it out cold turkey? I have an apt with a new doctor in the morning.... trying to decide if i should keep or cancell. Not saying he'd refer me either...but these WD ware awful. I dont know if i can take it. I seriously want to die.
If you're feeling suicidal then go to the er. No kidding! That's serious. What are you doing to treat the wds? And what all are you having at this point? Please don't give up, honey. You can do this!
Ok, these are the only things I could find at the store... please tell me if they will help and how to take it all... Tylenol, immodium, b6, b12, potassium, and a suppliment that is calcium/magnesium/zinc. Now... does any of this help at all? and how do i take it?
I'm ok with the depression right now. I'm taking zoloft.I think I'll be ok. If I get worse, I WILL go to the ER. I'm feeling massive anxiety right now, back, hip, and leg pains. Restless legs. sweats and chills. fatigue. irritability. depression. The worst part is the legs (pain and restless), my back pain, runny nose, sweat/chills, and anxiety. My legs feel like jello when I try to walk. I just can't seem to get the energy to even hold my head up! HOw long does this last? and the things I bought that I posted previously....will those work and how will I take them?
The imodium helps diarrhea and some of the other symptoms. Mag cal zinc helps several things but mainly legs just like the potassium will. Take 4 of mag cal zinc right now. And a couple of imodium. 1 potassium. The Tylenol will help aches. B vitamins are for energy. Take as directed. Do you have any nyquil? It will help the rls. Promise. Hang in there. Take a hot bath too. Let me know how you're doing. Ok? Just hang on!
You can do this!! But it sounds like your withdrawals are pretty bad. Both times I found myself in acute withdrawal, I wound up in the ER. I had the terrible sweating and couldn't keep anything down. Are you able to drink plenty of fluids? If you can keep it down, you need to drink as much as possible. You lose a lot through sweating and diarrhea and if you're vomiting on top of it, that makes it worse. Dehydration will make you feel much, much worse.
Only you know the answer to whether you see another pain doctor. Some use many other things besides narcotics. A good pain management team doesn't rely only on medications. They use a lot of other things: PT, OT, procedures, gels/creams, other non-narcotic meds.
If you can get someone to pick up some Valerian Root for you at the pharmacy, it could help your anxiety. It works great for me and a lot of people, though not everyone. But it's worth a try. Try staying in the moment and deep breathing. And don't underestimate a hot tub or shower. You're getting through this. It just takes some time.
Only you know the answer to whether you see another pain doctor. Some use many other things besides narcotics. A good pain management team doesn't rely only on medications. They use a lot of other things: PT, OT, procedures, gels/creams, other non-narcotic meds.
If you can get someone to pick up some Valerian Root for you at the pharmacy, it could help your anxiety. It works great for me and a lot of people, though not everyone. But it's worth a try. Try staying in the moment and deep breathing. And don't underestimate a hot tub or shower. You're getting through this. It just takes some time.
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