sub

[oxygirl487]

as some of u all know i relapsed and unfortunately am still using.....well i got online lastnight and found a bunch of dr.s in my area that prescribe sub so today i get on the phone and called maybe 2 or 3 and it was gonna be really expensive like 800 bucks the first visit and they didnt take any insurance so i was kinda getting pissed and i thought "just let me call this one last place" ..well guys they saved the best for last lol.....he takes my insurance zero copay..yes i said zero lol.....the sec tells me to call my ins co and see if they pay for sub so i do that and they said yes!!!!!!!!!!!........only bad thing is i have to wait till june 24th but thats not to bad considering ive been addicted to pills for 5 yrs....she said i needed to be at least 18hrs into w/d and that i needed to be totally honest with him..she said that he would also want me to go to meetings that they have at his office on tuesdays also free......can u guys beleive it?  i think its to good to be true myself........nothing ever goes right for me..maybe its time ..maybe its my time......just wanted u guys to know all this so ya'll wouldnt worry like u do....my mom's and dad's      lol

[road2recovery]

I am so sorry to hear that....but i am sure through consouling you will get better with what u just wrote....And maybe be able to heal and have some kind of closure, without that foggy mind....
I have no experience with sub, or oxy's so i don't know the answer to that....Maybe just start the sub, and the counsouling and take it one day at a time for now...Then u can decide how long you want to be on it...I think with support you will be able to stay on it alot less then without...Also with a good doctor, who is not just interest in your money, but in you...I am just so happy for you!!!
Good luck
r2r

[oxygirl487]

how long do u guys think i should be on the sub?....im on a higher dose of oxy now than when i was when i first came here so do u guys think it will be a long term treatment plan or?..just curious...i know i wont be cured overnight ....im ashamed to say this to u guys but i have done 8 80's today and i think its because my late little baby boys birthday is this month.......ok im crying

[Dog55]

Yes, that is true. The suboxone blocks the opoids from reaching the pleasure centers. Luckily, from my (very short-term) experience, you don't crave the opoids.

[GoingToMakeIt]

I am doing ok. Still have emotional ups and downs but still clean. Don't be hard on yourself over this (using) There are a lot of success stories with sub. Just be careful. It is very addictive too.

[oxygirl487]

yes i agree 100%..there has to be some underlying issue with all of us that makes us not want to feel "normal"..as for the cancelation list i am on it....lol

[oxygirl487]

oh no i dont mind the long post..i want all the info i can get......i have also heard that if u r on sub and u do an oxy etc....that it wont do anything..is that true also? i hope so....

[road2recovery]

That sounds great to me!!!  I always felt that it should me manditory for a patient to get counsouling , and the dr. make sure of that, when giving sub...Because it is just a tool to use to get your life back, and with counsouling you will get to the core of your issues...
I am so happy for you, i know you have been struggling a long time...
If i were you, i would call and ask them to put you on a cancellation list , just in case ...
hugs to you
r2r

[oxygirl487]

thanks..yes u r right she said he was new here and that he is trying to get licensed to have 100 patients but has to prove he is legit thru the state...i was just so happy when she said my ins paid everything else kinda faded away lol.....havent talked to u in a while u doing ok? love ya

[Dog55]

Glad to do anything I can to help, oxygirl. Anything you need, I'll be more than happy to share. I put some of this in an earlier post but I don't think anyone responded, but i'll be glad to again if you don't mind the long post. My appt. was for this morning at 11:20 and I had heard different stories (here and elsewhere) about how long to be in WDs. I was pretty anxious, because if you're not in WDs, the subs actually put you in them! That scared me. Anyway, I took my last hydro at 8 p.m. last night, so it was about 16 hours before I took the sub. If was in WDs for sure, but not quite as bad as I thought I would be by noon. I told my wife it was probably because I knew i was going for treatment, not just running out and not knowing where i would get more pills. But I was definitely starting some WDs (terrible diarrhea, feeling kinda lousy, stomach cramping). Anyway, about 20 minutes after taking the sub (you have to take it sublingually, i.e. let it melt under the tongue) I started feeling much better. I told my wife I couldn't believe how good i felt, even better than if i would have taken opoids. Unfortunately, about 30 minutes later or so I got to feeling a bit dizzy. Actually, I felt pretty buzzed, not necessarily in a nice way. But dont get me wrong, it wasn't anything really bad, just minor. I got to feeling better. I think I just need t adjust the dose. Overall, so far it's just great. I don't have any cravings or WDs whatsoever. I'm thinking of taking a half dose in the morning and see how that works. Sorry again for the lost post, but let me know if you need anything else. Always glad to share my experiences, as others have done for me.

[oxygirl487]

thats what i was thinking too hun...blew my mind..thats why im kinda skeptical...its not free really my ins is paying for it but i dint think ins did that.......he will not see u if u dont go to the councelling....thats a rule she said that he had....so maybe hes just a good dr..i have been reading alot and killing u guys with all my ?'s lol...but i just dont want to get addicted to something even worse than i am now......she also said the dr reccommends that u commit to 3 months of sub treatment and councilling ...does that sound right to u?..she was very nice and i talked to her for like 15 minutes and u soo dont get that kinda treatment around here from a dr.s office ...sorry to ask u all so much but i do value all of your opinions esp u r2r.....love u hun

[GoingToMakeIt]

This is excellent news. And being the last one he can take. I think I remember something about when a Dr 1st gets licensed to prescribe sub, they can only take 30 patients.
I am happy for you.

[oxygirl487]

some places icalled were rediculous ....one place i called the actual dr himself answered the phone he said "hello" and i said "is this dr so so's office" and he was like yes can i help u ?   automatically i thought QUACK!!!  he was the one who said hes see me for 800 bucks then id have to come back a month later to get a script i was like that dont sound right to me  lol....but anyway 3 days in wd? wtf ever....like u said might as well tuff the rst out huh....do u feel ok? any nausea? dizzy?...hope u dont mind the ?'s im just trying to get as many opinions as i possibly can......hope u do good on the sub..what was ur doc? if u dont mind...mine is oxycontin....god i hope this works....this has to be it for me.......sub or death....maybe we can hold each others hand while we go thru this hell called addiction......

[Dog55]

Well, it wasn't totally free. Like I said, $195 up front at the doctor's office (cash, no checks!) and my insurance co-pay is $50. That's $245, but still a bargain if it keeps me from spending $500-$600 a month to buy vics on the street after my scrip runs short each month. I'm hoping to de-tox with a step-down program, but I have not heard many positive comments about that on this post. My doctor assures me that weaning off subs is much easier than weaning off hydrocodone, but of course he hasn't personally experienced it. I sure hope he's right though.

[road2recovery]

WOW---it was your day...I don't think i have ever read where anyone has gotten the total thing for free, even counsouling...Sounds like a great place to me if they have the consouleing there, to make sure u are going....And to be totally honest....U can do this..
Make sure that u get all the info that you can about the meds...READ alot...
Way to GO!!!
r2r

[Dog55]

Good luck. I am on my first day of sub treatment. Like you, I made a couple of calls and got depressed. One doctor's office said I'd have to be in withdrawals for three days before I came in! Are you kidding? I told them if I'm going to day 3 i may as well go cold turkey! Plus they wanted $600 up front. I was in despair, but I called another office and got an appt. $195 up front, plus the prescription (which my insurance covers). I started treatment this morning and so far it's like a miracle.

[oxygirl487]

i forgot to add the sec also said that he could only see 30 patients or some **** i dont knwo if she meant per month or what but guess what ? i was number 30