subutex

[cottoncandy9]

Been on subutex for 5 days. the first 2 days were great...then on day 3 i got a migrane. went to doc and she gave me meds. still getting headaches. Also, why did I have tons of energy and felt fine the first 2 days and now I'm sick to my stomach, tired, and have head aches?

[cottoncandy9]

What is this number that people are commenting on(NP?) to call if you have questions? Also, my doctor told me its okay to keep using my xanax in very low doses spread far apart from taking subutex during the day and that seems to be the only thing to keep me relaxed. I take a forth of it once a day. Is there anyone who does this?
As far as my doctor is concerened, he hasn't been much help  due to the receptionists so that's why I have been seeking advice. Still getting the migranes everyother day and a regular headache inbetween. Waiting on my doctor to give me more Treximet so i have been using Excedren Ex strenghth

[salsinator]

Just to comment on the people "looking for a high".  My sub doc told me once that there are some addicts that want to be clean, but still seek a high - can't have both, but he said that people that really need the high should be on methadone and the others would do fine on sub.  I only took methadone once - but when I was using - and I noted that it did not get you as high as a regular opiate - like oxy or hydro.  I did get high though, but only after taking a fairly high dose and then all that happened is that I got sick.  Never took that again.  

Bottom line - sub worked for m and it is a viable option that can and will help lots of people.

[kris123]

Ga Guy you really know a lot about sub, I didn't know that 4-6 was all that was needed to fit the receptors, but I do remember my dr saying that one pill 8mg cover 96% of the receptors, add another pill and that covers another 1%, add the third pill and it covers maybe another 1%, so he told me one pill pretty much fills up it all.  He said a lot of times people "think" the second pill helps them when in fact they may not need it. I got a really good sub dr that isn't in it for the money, he takes insurance and always call me back on the same day I call with any questions, they even call and check up on me.  

[OIFMc09]

Okay, good info thank you.  I'm doing this through the VA and I didn't want to think they were being stingy to cut costs, but I didn't know.  From what you're saying 4 mg. seems to be the absolute minimum to completely fill your receptors.  Man you'd think they would have given me a little more for the first week at least to get through the physical stuff you know?  All I know is that I've got tons of pressure in my life right now...I'm moving into a new place, work, a make it or break it math test coming up, and this ****.  Funny how you can't make any time for withdrawal, but somehow you can find plenty of time to get high.

[GA Guy]

That line should read...Too many people believe that and monkey around with dosages thinking the have a BAD Sub doctor.

[GA Guy]

Any dosage over the ceiling effect of 4-6mg covers all opiate receptors. Larger doses are given to help keep the dose from dropping and withdrawals setting in, as well as for the blocking effect it gives (addicts are notorious for relapsing early..Sub stops the high and deters relapse). Buprenorphine acts just like any other opiate up to the ceiling effect of 4-6mg or so. After that, it acts like an agonist-antagoinst until it hits 32mg or so. It reverts back to an opiate agonist at doses over that amount. So, Sub DOES act linearly up until 4-6mg..but past that point..the linear progression levels off before becoming linear again at 32mg. That's the reason you can't say that at certain dosages of your drug of choice you need "X" amount of Suboxone. Too many people believe that and monkey around with dosages thinking the have a Sub doctor. So, if you're taking 100mg of Oxy a day, and a friend is taking 320mg a day..it's possible and plausible that you'll both be put on 16mg of Suboxone a day.