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hey:
just want to say thanks to Cindy and Phill and all of the people who post here.
once again i feel you saved my ass. i've bee real despondent over losing a
job. yesterday i was thinking about a bottle of stab and kill (cabin still) whiskey
and a .40 glock. i posted instead. this morning a card fell out of my 3rd edition
big book it was from my first sponcer..
i looked for my soul
but my soul i could not see
i looked for my god
but my god eluded me
i looked for a friend
and then i found all three

william blake

open forum folks, and keep an angel on your shoulder
love 'ya all
kip
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Thank you WW, you are such a sweetheart for thinking of Kip and I!!!
You're always there when i need you most, without fail!
I think it could be a good thing in the long run, for me anyway.
I really need a job where i can have friends to work with instead of being by myself all of the time.
This area is horrible as far as pay goes, but the housing is pretty affordable, so i am lucky in that respect.
I was making California wages here in Florida for 6-years, so i have to be greatful for those 6-years.  Wish i didn't 'blow' so much of the money i made on worthless ****.  No sense kicking myself at this point, i need to use that energy to get myself right finally.
I'm working on ways to get my bills down so that i can afford to make less money.
Happiness is more important than money anyway.  But it sure does make it easier to be happy if you have enough money.  That's all i need is 'enough', i don't care about making a lot of money so i can buy everything that i want.  All i need is enough to pay the bills and make sure we have enough food and the kids can have what they need.
Been doing a lot of praying, but i know i need to do my part too, and that's to unload this heavy weight of my addiction that i carry around every single second of my life.  It's amazing how quick an addiction can destroy one's life!
Hope you are doing well.  Sounds like you have a good attitude about your hubby's job situation.  Glad he found something, it's hard to even get anything these days with unemployment being so high, and everyone laying off people.
Keep in touch, and it was nice hearing from you sweetie!
Lv Jenny
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hi there - i typed this big, long thing to you and it didn't post!  really all i said was it's good to see you back, and i'm glad you are feeling better.  also i wanted you to know i've been doing a lot of reasearch on paganism.  it is so interesting to me.  i live near salem, ma, and there is a lot of book stores there that cater to the "religion" - to me it seems to be more of a way of life than a religion.  it's easy to see how the salem witch trials occured - ignorance breeds fear i guess.  a lot of people still seem to compare pagans to satanists - i don't get that.

anyhow, it's good to see you back:)
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Hiya Kip and Jenny,
I'm sooo sorry to hear that you got laid off! It is such a terrifying feeling to have your source of income ripped away from you with no certainty.

My husband got laid off from a really high paying job 3 months ago. We scrimped and scraped by, but thank god he got a new job and started this past monday. It pays 30k a year less, but at least it is a job, and he likes the work better. We'll just learn to get by on less (hard to do in the Bay Area, where I live..housing is incredibly expensive)

Anyway, keep up the hope. There will be something else out there for you.  A door never closes without another one opening somewhere else.

It's great to see some of the posters who have been around for a few years posting again. I miss you guys.

love,
WW
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Groovygirl,
Nope,i'm not the bup user, but you do know me from a while back on this forum. Hope all is well with you.

Skipper,
Thanks, and you're very perceptive, guess from being there and back and there and back again, you've learned many things the hard way.
Your way definately sounds doable, and it seems like the easiest approach to getting myself clean for good.
I know i have willpower somewhere deep inside, and i definately know that i have a lot of determination.   I just have to focus and rely on who and what i really am deep inside, i know i can pull this off.
It's almost like you get yourself so deep in the hole that you have a hard time seeing the opening long enough to find your way out.  But i can still see it, i just have to try harder.
I hope they know what they lost when they lost you as an employee, this must be so devasting for you.  Just remember who you are and how good you are, you will find an even better job than that one, and come out happier after you've had time to adjust.
I was basically working alone and i miss, so much, that work environment where you are surrounded by friends.  This past job was loney at times, part of the reason i feel into my mess.  My last job was a huge corporation, but still, i had friends within my department.  The job before that, and this is going back over 14 years was my favoriate job.  I had so much fun, i remember thinking work wasn't supposed to be this fun.  I'm hoping to find that kind of environment again.  I know everything happens for a reason, and i do a lot of praying hoping that god knows what he is doing by exposing me to so much throughout my life.  I know my addiction isn't 'his' fault, but still, he makes the big plan, is part of what is destined, so i'm not fighting my fate.  I am capable of so much more happiness in life, and so much more healthyness, i want to make people proud, and most of all myself.
I'm way too tired tonight, kind of rambling at the keyboard, so thanks for baring with me.
Anyway, good luck to you and thanks for being here for me!
I think you understand me more than most, so i appreciate your posts.
PS.  Tell Irishrose that i said 'Hi'!
Lv Jenny
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I got an email from your wife and she told me about your job  I am soooooooooo  sorry   I know how rough that can be,,,,keep ypour chin up...you are not a quitter  I know you can go on and you will,,love cin
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jennyfla:
you were the first person at med help to to ever answer my posts at this wonderful gathering point for junkys and other assorted hop heads that are clean, want to get clean or just want a kindred spirit to relate to malong the way...

my concern for your well being is at an all time high! what can be
done for jenny? at this point i don't think it would be realistic
to detox you completely from all the drugs you are taking. how a-
bout stabalise your dose and then try to reduce it at a safe and
comfortable pace? never mind Robert at this point, lets see if we
can get you to a beter place?

jenny, i'm a long time junky and i've heard all the reasions not
to quit (used 'em all myself). so...lets just see about cooling you intake down  some what for now.like quitting, i'm sure your
drug addled brain is doing a rapid recoil. what have you got to
lose? self respect, a beter looking budget,  and more time for
your kids...hey all that from just cooling it for a little bit.
your not the piece of dirt **** that deserves the life you've been giving youself! i'm sure the forum and i can offer some help. just
keep in mind...you don't have to quit! just cool it down...ok?
i love you and your kids and Robert too, just as if you were family...so lets see what can be done. god don't make junk...only
junkys do that. what say we see can done? i'm depending on every
one here to help...
so gert the angel on your shoulder
kip
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groovygirl - No, I'm not tapering by choice. Unfortunately. I am using "an" online pharmacy. Just talked to them and they said will ship today. Hope it's true.

jennyfla - I hate saying this trite statement - but I know what you are going through. I am really struggling with trying to keep my real life while giving up meds. I haven't stopped yet and a big part of not stopping is the question that keeps going through my head: How can I do this without screwing up my job, my finances, and on and on... I'm really sorry to hear that you lost your job. It is a tough time to be looking for work. I wish you the best of luck with that and with your other challenge.

Well, I'm off to work. Hopefully it will take my mind away from this past weekend of worrying.
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i might be confusing you with someone else, but weren't you using buprenex?  did you have a relapse?
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groovy:
so good to hear your moved in to your knew crib enough to have the
computer hooked up. moving is a bummer....i may lose my house and
being doing the same. ah well, life will sucker punch the most ex-
pierenced too. monday the 9 (bloody monday at universityof nebras-
ka) people were called to their departmental conference rooms and
laid off (read ****** OVER). 18 years and 8000 ethernet nodes, all
of the associated optical, routers hubs and switches....jesus i
built up the 84th most wired campus in the world...and it took 'em
5 minutes to send me down the river. my supervisor felt so bad
that he took tuesday off to drive me to Mpls. he had a lot of
blood spilled on him. he needed a break too! what a fantastic hu-
man being. i will never have a job where my work group was like a
family!!

THE NWEEK IN MPLS WAS GREAT! saw lots of old junky friends and
people i went to high school and college with. everyone thinks i
will land on my feet....i don't know... i'm thinking maybe full-
time disability and writing that book about being a junky that has led a most unusual life....would you read it? i'ld be happy to
give out signed and numbered additions to the whole forum gang
(you too wizard, ww, jb,cindi- all you past posters). first i
gotta get a publisher....

ah well, i first must find humble posture of unemployed writer/
junjy..and keep an angel on my shoulder!
kip
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hi - you were there 18 years???  i really hope they sent you off with with a good package.  did you mean you might lose your house because of this layoff?  i feel so bad skipper.  what was in mpls that your supervisor drove you to see?
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Hi friends,
Here i am, another birthday is coming up soon, and i'm still an addict.  I always have great thoughts of being able to kick this awful opiate addiction for real, and i never even get close to doing it.  The longer i fail, i feel i'm getting deeper and deeper in the whole, only finding it harder to see the opening to freedom.
I lost my job a few weeks back, the company had another layoff and this time i was a target.  I've had that darn job for 6-years, and there aren't many around here that will pay me what i was making, not even close.
My husband is still on workmans' comp because of an arm injury.
This year has been the toughest i have ever had.
I just don't understand why i just won't do what i need to do and walk away from the pills, never looking back, or at least looking back long enough to know that i never want to go there again.  Something that is supposed to make you happy (opiates), sure has destroyed every ounce of happiness i ever have a chance of feeling while addicted to this mess.
I know i am powerless over this addiction, and i also know that i can't beat it while living in my current mindframe.  I will need to alter my thinking, my habits, my life completely before i can beat this.
Sigh, it's just getting so old, i'm so tired of waking up each day to 'this life'.  
My motivation for life and my drive is decreasing each day, and now i have to get out there and get a new job.  How am i going to pull this off.  I want to quit before i start a new job, taking advantage of my 'home time'.  I don't want to go into a new chapter of my life like this.  This is the perfect time to stop and start all over again, fresh and new.  If i don't quit know, my future is doomed, and i know it.  It's only bound to get worse, I feel like **** about myself,  
You don't need to respond, i know what i need to do, i need to pick myself up and stop feeling sorry for myself and being such a sorry-ass.  
I need to love myself instead of this constant self-hatred that i feel, i need to know that i am worth getting myself better.  I'm a good person behind this addiction, it's my addiction that i hate, not me.  I hate what my addiction has done to my life, to my self, my physical appearance, my personality, my everything that i care about.  
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent.  I'll find my way, i have to.
Jenny
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I have been reading your posts for quite a while now and your story is somewhat like mine.  i have been posting here for a while and never get any responses.  I know i am not the only one here but if you have any time can you email me at peabody3312 @aol.  thanks
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I didn't have time to look into EAP. I did, however, make some time to talk to my boss about the workload I am currently carrying and perhaps pushing some of it back. I didn't tell him about my problem (I think I said before that he wouldn't understand) but he was very receptive and agreed to freeing up some time to just focus on a few key projects. This was a great relief since one of my big concerns is timing my quitting and not losing control of my job. In any case, I feel like I can see a 2 week window in my future where I can do this and come back to a workplace that won't cause me start right up again. I have to start travelling again (for work) in January and the thought of doing that without worrying if I'll have enough meds to last is great.

How are things with you? Were you just back at work today? How did it go? Were you able to function okay? Or just lock yourself in your office and try to remain calm (I've done that many days)?
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pon
good job with your boss...see, they can be human occaisionally :)  sounds like you are gettig ready.  STICK WITH IT.  Go after the EAP AND a Dr....but don't wait to l9ong.  you have the pieces ready, put that puzzle together and do it!

There is a great life out here if we can make it back...got to get there one step at a time...take that first one for yourself.

Today was day 6 for me.  Pretty good day.  i've been really lucky on the physical W/d side, very mild after day 4....don't know why, but not complaining.  Work was fine, kept myself occupied with primarily busy type stuff...clean up of odds and ends from being out...the constant activity seems to help me with the mental side.

6 days down, a lot to go, but it gets better and easier each day...just keep with it and you can do it.

Keep posting and take the leap...use a dr if you at all can....they WILL help.

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Hey Kip,
I'm so sorry to hear about your job, and boy can i relate.  I got the old boot in the butt myself.  Yep, laid off, although i had only invested 6-years in this company; not as long as your 18-years, that is so rotten.
My boss is more devastated than i am i think, and i am pretty devastated, so i know he did everything he could to keep my job.  This is the companies third layoff, and how i made it past the last two, i'll never know, but i knew it was bound to happen eventually, the company is going downhill quick (high tech company).
So anyway, hang in there, and if it helps, i'm sitting in the same boat as you, so you're not alone.
Drop me an email some time so i have your email address as i only have your work email.
((HUGS))
Lv Jenny
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How did work go?  Any luck with EAP research?  Puilling for you...you can do it...stick with it man...day 6 for me, back at work and doing much better.  You can make it.
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hi - i was curious...are you tapering to quit or to just get you thru until tues...when your meds arrive.  do you use online pharms to get your meds?  as i said, i'm just curious...you don't have to answer if you feel uncomfortable.
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hi there skipper.  i'm so sorry to hear about your job...what happened?  i haven't been around for a couple weeks, but it sure looks like things have changed around here.

are you ok?
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STICK WITH IT....don't let the details divert you!!!  Hang in there, you can ake it!
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I seem to be saying thanks a lot here, but I am nothing if not totally grateful for the support and education I've gotten here.

I'm on sort of a forced taper right now since I only have a certain number of meds to last the next couple of days. I've already concocted a "doctor's appointment" for a work excuse for Tuesday morning so I can wait for my meds to arrive.

Still struggling with the logistics of quitting. There seem to be a lot of ways to approach detox and a lot of different ways to explain what's happening to you to the rest of the world. It's too bad that being honest can put us in such jeopardy.

I'll let you all know what I figure out.
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Hey you know addiction is a *****.I came here a mess.I had
been detoxing and then withdrawing and it was pure hell.
I used many suggestions here and some worked for me.I have been
using soomething for 28 years.Last 12 opiates.After day 20 I began to feel better and it's day 26 now I feel even better.
I really believe that to stop being an opiate addict you must stop taking opiates.That sounds simple enough BUT it was
harder than anything I have ever been though.Well guess again.
Being off drugs,being straight is much harder to deal with,now.
Everyday I tell myself I am getting better.Every hour I thank God I am drug free.I just needed to say thank you to all that
kept me going and thinking for the past two and a half weeks.
I am free of the hell drugs has caused in my life and I guess
time will heal the rest of it.THANKS GUYS!

To all who are just starting,rememeber this,Find something to keep you from playing those mindgames we all try to play
on ourselves.Get help and keep posting,it really helps to
talk to others in withdrawal.It get easier by the day!

                      I love you guys and Opiate free
                                is wonderful!
                                  bmac
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