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Good luck to you..
I know that milk thistle is supposed to detox the liver but I myself have never used it..
Do what you can do to get off it. Taper seems to be one of the best things. Slowly allow your body to get use to less and less. Another (and probably the best, if you have the resources) is see a specialist (addiction medicine specialist, Psych. Dr.).
Life does feel better on the other side (without ultram). Your happiness and good feelings can be real, true and yours again. Try and remember what life was before all this, it's still there and can be yours again. I'm not the best writer in the world, but hope this helps in some small way. I am here for all, lean on me.
Stay strong and fights this. It will all make you stronger. Here for you.
Like "Dad of 8" mentioned, the Ultram will mess with your serotonin levels and coming off of it can be hard. So, this past weekend I took my last Ultram and I kid you not, I was debating on whether or not to call the suicide hotline come Sunday night - it was that bad. I did a LOT of research these past few days and I found that 5HTP (herbal anti-depressant) will help and is over the counter. Luckily, I have been totally up front with my Dr. about my detox and I called him yesterday and he suggested upping my Effexor from 75mg's to 150mgs just to help get my serotonin back to a decent level and in about a week, I can go back to 75's or stay at 150, its my choice. I will tell ya, after upping my Effexor dose last night, this morning was the first day in almost a week that I was able to get out of bed, get ready for the day and leave to go to work without having 2-3 panic attacks. Its been rough for me, for sure. If you have access to any prescribed anti-depressants or even a natural food store that would carry 5HTP - GO GET IT before you start your detox. And as far as the headaches go, I actually got a sample of Imitrex and Amerge (migraine meds) from my Dr. and both of those meds helped. Excedrin helps as well. So does feverfew.
Im sorry you have to go through all of this, but take it from me - its SO worth it. As cliché as it sounds, your first day completely sober will feel like it’s the first day of the rest of your life. Well, at least that’s how I felt my first day sober. :)
YOU CAN DO IT!
Jonathan
Las Vegas, NV
Morning:
4 - 500 mg L-tyrosine
1 - 10 mg copper cap
1 - supplement containing: 400 mgs Magnesium, 1000 mg calcium, and 10 mg zinc
1 - 50 mg B6 (helps the absorbtion of L-tyrosine)
1 - B Complex
and each week i put a B12 patch behind my ear for 24 hrs (it's like getting a B12 shot but without the pain or trip to the Doc) do a B-12 patch search on the internet
drink plenty of water
walk a few miles a day (if possible)
AND EAT 3 healthy meals a day - with like a 1/2 banana between each meal
EVENING:
1-400 mg magnesium (aids sleep and is very good for leg pain)
1-50 mg niacin (b3) (aids sleep and the "detox" of liver)
1-5-HPT containing 100 mgs of valarian and calcium
this is the FIRST successful atempt i have made and i still feel NORMAL - I hope this helps you
support (like this forum) is a godsend for all of us
Now..time to follow my own advice :-)