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Hi everyone, I've been reading all of your messages and my heart goes out to all of you. I can't seem to get any answers to my questions so maybe I'm in the wrong forum. Is there a forum for people helping people going through detox? I could really use some support myself. It's hard watching someone you love go through all this pain. My boyfriend was addicted to oxycontin. He did a methadone detox to get off the oxy.It has been 2 weeks since he has done any meth but he used some Vistrial and zanax to get through it. He also just had a stent put into one of his heart arteries on top of going through interferon/riboviran treatment for Hep C. It has been a long summer to say the least. My question now is I followed Thomas's vitimin theraphy and bought him all the vitimins . I have made sur he has taken them on top of Zanax which I got for him. He now is still doing approx. 30 mgs of zanax a day which is making him tired. It has also been extreamly hot here and his Dr said he shouldn't be out in this heat but he won't go anywhere or do anything. He is very depressed and just lays in bed all day. I am trying to help but am getting worried about his lack of energy and depression. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. a good day to all.
hi I think yo may be a little confused Night nurse is the one whose boyfriend is depressed.....minr just sleeps alot LOL love to all cin
Please forgive the small thread intrusion, but I wanted to let you know my dad is doing fine! He will have to undergo chemo & radiation, but the prognosis is excellent. Thank you all so much for your prayers and kind words.
PS to Night Nurse: Vistaril is an antihistamine, so that's probably a very safe drug for him to take to help w/sleep.
PS to Night Nurse: Vistaril is an antihistamine, so that's probably a very safe drug for him to take to help w/sleep.
Jenny called and left me a message today around 3:00pm. Her computer crashed and she's not able to get on. SHE IS NOT doing well. Her husband stumbled upon an 80mg of Oxy. I am going to call her at 10:30. If anyone would like to send her anything e-mail me at ***@****. and I will forward it to her. Also if you would like her to call you, please e-mail me the number...it will remain confidential only to her. Thanks she needs all our support right now..Susan
well, my friends cindi and Francoise have pretty much given you the advice I would give. Narcotic use depletes two brain neurotransmitters, dopamine and norepinephrine. The L-Tyrosine is especially helpful in restoring dopamine levels. Dopamine is a necessary component to experiencing pleasure. Norepinephrine is crucial to mental alertness, mood and ambition.
If 4000 mg of L-Tyrosine and 200 mg of B6 in the morning has no effect, then his malaise must be from something else. I imagine that having Hep C must be plenty depressing without the rest. If your husband was active in AA and NA for seven years and "went out," he could be depressed at his "fall from grace" and feel like a failure. I know what that feels like in spades. I agree with cindi about the Xanax. Leave him on it but don't let him escalate the dose. 5 of the .5's would be a little high for someone without his drug history, but for him, it doesn't sound unreasonable. Just remember to do a slow taper off that stuff when the time comes. For now, it might be his sole source of comfort.
I agree he should get out of bed as soon as possible. Even a healthy person, after a few days in bed, starts to weaken physically and mentally. Perhaps you could start by encouraging him to walk with you in the cool of the morning or evening.
Perhaps you could ask some of his AA or NA friends to drop by. I know AA has a platoon of people ready to drop by at a moment's notice. You know, you should talk to my friend, JB. He stil drops in the forum from time to time. I know that he has an extensive narcotics history like your husband, but what's more important, I believe he has Hep C himself or at least liver-related problems. He might understand how your husband feels about having a potentially deadly and debilitating disease like Hep C.
I hope I've given you a few ideas. I know it's hard on you, as well. Here your husband seemingly has all this support and attention, while you stand by neglected. I wish you both all the best. You've definately come to the right place regarding this forum. You'll get lots of understanding and compassion from the fine people who frequent this web site. (Francoise, sorry not to reply to your last post. I was so tired the night I read it I couldn't move. To answer your question, I'm fine, although the job is the toughest I've ever had, complete with the longest hours I've ever worked. So, it's still one day at a time. Hope you're well. Great to hear from you. A big hi and a hug to cindi as well.)
Thomas
If 4000 mg of L-Tyrosine and 200 mg of B6 in the morning has no effect, then his malaise must be from something else. I imagine that having Hep C must be plenty depressing without the rest. If your husband was active in AA and NA for seven years and "went out," he could be depressed at his "fall from grace" and feel like a failure. I know what that feels like in spades. I agree with cindi about the Xanax. Leave him on it but don't let him escalate the dose. 5 of the .5's would be a little high for someone without his drug history, but for him, it doesn't sound unreasonable. Just remember to do a slow taper off that stuff when the time comes. For now, it might be his sole source of comfort.
I agree he should get out of bed as soon as possible. Even a healthy person, after a few days in bed, starts to weaken physically and mentally. Perhaps you could start by encouraging him to walk with you in the cool of the morning or evening.
Perhaps you could ask some of his AA or NA friends to drop by. I know AA has a platoon of people ready to drop by at a moment's notice. You know, you should talk to my friend, JB. He stil drops in the forum from time to time. I know that he has an extensive narcotics history like your husband, but what's more important, I believe he has Hep C himself or at least liver-related problems. He might understand how your husband feels about having a potentially deadly and debilitating disease like Hep C.
I hope I've given you a few ideas. I know it's hard on you, as well. Here your husband seemingly has all this support and attention, while you stand by neglected. I wish you both all the best. You've definately come to the right place regarding this forum. You'll get lots of understanding and compassion from the fine people who frequent this web site. (Francoise, sorry not to reply to your last post. I was so tired the night I read it I couldn't move. To answer your question, I'm fine, although the job is the toughest I've ever had, complete with the longest hours I've ever worked. So, it's still one day at a time. Hope you're well. Great to hear from you. A big hi and a hug to cindi as well.)
Thomas
Hi again, You would be very wise to take the advice/suggestions or all the people here that have responded to you and run with it....the antidepressants, the psychologist that specializes in pain managements..all of it..but whatever you do DO NOT AND I MEAN DO NO STOP GIVING YOUR MAN XANAX ABRUPTLY TO DO SO WOULD CAUSE MUCH MORE POSSIBLY SEVERE PROBLEMS. your name has suggested to me that you are a nurse? anyway..I have been a nuse for 20 years however that does not make me an expert,,,,people here are not experts with the exception of dr. steve.what these people are though are experienced in various facets of the disease of addiction.....meaning they/we hav been there and done it all....good luck to you and yur friend keep us [osted love to all cindi
Well, here I am with my two cents worth.
It sounds like your guy is very depressed. As a person who has been clinically depressed, I feel it's a big mistake to try to "jolly" anyone out of a depression. It ain't gonna work, and it will make him want to avoid you in order to avoid being jollied. People who are depressed don't want to be jollied; they want to be left alone. Going on a car ride won't perk him up. He has a chemical imbalance in the brain and car rides, funny movies, being jollied, etc. have no effect on brain chemistry. They will **** him off, but he's probably too depressed to express anger. He will just retreat deeper into his silence.
But, as I'm sure you know, your man is suffering. Every waking moment is an agony of despair. Minutes become hours. There is no joy in anything. And no color. Everything is in shades of black and gray. And anything that he believes will end his suffering is fair game. Relapse is always an option. And relapse is better by far than to continue to experience the suffering I'm describing.
Perhaps you should try Terriffic Thomas' Tyrosine Treatment. You can find the complete recipe in posts below, but essentially, it's four grams of L-Tyrosine and 200 milligrams of B6 on an empty stomach (followed by nothing for an hour) every other day. Add to that a magnesium & zinc supplement. There are people here who swear by this treatment, and they swear it begins to take effect right away. I understand also that this should not be tried if the patient is taking SSI anti-depressants.
I should say that I'm taking a maintenance dose of oxycontin for a broken back and pelvis. I have slept past my dose time by three hours, and the depression with which I was faced upon awakening was the worst experience of my entire life. It takes an hour for oxycontin to reach the bloodstream. That hour was the longest hour of my life. Had I not had my oxy, and knew there was no relief, I would have killed myself on the spot.
I hope your guy can try the TTTT and you'll post back in a week and tell us he's on the mend.
Best,
Francois
It sounds like your guy is very depressed. As a person who has been clinically depressed, I feel it's a big mistake to try to "jolly" anyone out of a depression. It ain't gonna work, and it will make him want to avoid you in order to avoid being jollied. People who are depressed don't want to be jollied; they want to be left alone. Going on a car ride won't perk him up. He has a chemical imbalance in the brain and car rides, funny movies, being jollied, etc. have no effect on brain chemistry. They will **** him off, but he's probably too depressed to express anger. He will just retreat deeper into his silence.
But, as I'm sure you know, your man is suffering. Every waking moment is an agony of despair. Minutes become hours. There is no joy in anything. And no color. Everything is in shades of black and gray. And anything that he believes will end his suffering is fair game. Relapse is always an option. And relapse is better by far than to continue to experience the suffering I'm describing.
Perhaps you should try Terriffic Thomas' Tyrosine Treatment. You can find the complete recipe in posts below, but essentially, it's four grams of L-Tyrosine and 200 milligrams of B6 on an empty stomach (followed by nothing for an hour) every other day. Add to that a magnesium & zinc supplement. There are people here who swear by this treatment, and they swear it begins to take effect right away. I understand also that this should not be tried if the patient is taking SSI anti-depressants.
I should say that I'm taking a maintenance dose of oxycontin for a broken back and pelvis. I have slept past my dose time by three hours, and the depression with which I was faced upon awakening was the worst experience of my entire life. It takes an hour for oxycontin to reach the bloodstream. That hour was the longest hour of my life. Had I not had my oxy, and knew there was no relief, I would have killed myself on the spot.
I hope your guy can try the TTTT and you'll post back in a week and tell us he's on the mend.
Best,
Francois
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