Brief relapse

[jkc65]

I just spent over 2 moths kicking a 40 pill a day habit i had for 2 years. I was taking percocet 10mgs & Loratab 10mgs...Nohonestly i wanted to stop,the money ive wasted, the constant worry of getting sick. My problem is about 3 days ago i was in a physical altercation,and I went and got 10percocet 10mgs the next morning i couldnt take the soreness and I think a broken knuckle..Now I took on the first day 2, then before bed 2 more,then 3yesterday. This morning I felt the withdrawal which woke me up,i was anxious gagging. I have about 10 Darvacet and want to know if maybe before bed tonite I take 1 Darvacet pill, then half in the a.m. then half before bed and possibly another half the 2nd morning will that help or make it worse. Im honestly over the mental part,i havent thought about using at all,its the physical pain im afraid of and it will drive me back to using. I hope I can taper with the Darvacet.
Thanks

[dovecottage]

Well you still had 2 months clean. After ten percs I dont know that the w/d will be so bad. Most importantly is you woke up the sleeping lion that was your addiction, your body got a taste of what it use to crave. Do you go to meetings? Have u had your hand x-rayed?

[HelpMePlz72572]

Hay dude best thing is make a rule  u r allergic to opiets u will die if u take them I have been off oxycodone  150mg every 3-4 hrs. For 1 yr come June 13 th  but I f:cked up I started taking soboxone  and here iam had quit 3 prior times cold turkey   It's the only way tell your self I play I pay hate this bad bad hangover

[jkc65]

I dont have insurence..im taking care of my hand..it was the stiffness in my whole body, i was in bed 2 weeks prior and that was the first physical thing i did. I used because i was sore,but becasue i was so upset i let my self go to that level. I have been on the pills since i moved here, so i just started looking around for meetings. When I typed that it was my anxiety because I felt some w/d symptoms, hot flashes/restlestness/gagging andof course im a big baby when it comes to w/d. But when i woke up the next morning took some motrin, a little restless but not what i was fearing. When Dr Jeff read, he thought i meant the pain from my hand. I meant pain from the withdrawal, I thought i was in for it. But it wasnt bad at all. I ditched the darvacet. and feeling better. I learned a lesson, I honestly have not been mentally craving anything. I have relapsed before for a day and woke with w/d like i was using for months. Ive also relapsed and never went in to withdrawal,i guess i got lucky. POint is i was in a panic, thought i blew everything because when i was using withdrawal woke me up and i needed to use as soon as i woke up and ive known people who can wake up and wait hours before getting sick or they r able to tolerate it for a while...not me and thats what i was afraid of.

[jkc65]

im laughing because seriously im not looking for an excuse. For the first time i made the decision to stop the pills, there was no consequence. And the past 2 months since i stopped have been great. I dont mentally think about using. Which every other time I obsessed over it. I cant watch that show Intervention anymore i have to turn my head...and i used to use while watching it or it made me want to go use. The fight with my neighbor was really bad,its not just bumps and bruises,dented cars,broken sideview mirrors,the reason was she actually stole my puppy but a neighbor witnessed it and i heard my dog crying. It happens alot out here, and like i said in another post,ive only been off pain pills 2 months so maybe it was intensified because im not used to feeling it. But it was also the 3rd day i was feeling better after being in bed for 2 weeks first being sick,then pnuemonia..so my whole body was hurting and couldnt move my neck,and my hand is cut badly with im positive 2 broken knuckles. And yes after letting my self get to that point i went and got 10percs because I couldnt believe that i was fist fighting, i havent done in 15yrs..stupid,i cant even look at myself right now...but i didnt mean the pain from the fight would make me use i meant the withdrawals,from my stupid idea of gettng the percs, that if i got sick,anxious,and gagging I would have made another stupid decision. But I woke up today,still stiff and i gagged a little,my legs are a bit restless but im okay. I think i was just freaking out and amplifying it. Also because my anxiety is still out of control im still just off everything 2 1/2 months...and thats after 2yrs of 400mg a day,and I took 3 subutex over 3 days and suffered the rest of the 2months out. I understand what your saying about making excuses but i wasnt trying to ******** you either. When I felt those hot flashes and started gagging i thought i was going to have to do it all over again and I was afraid the withdrawals would have me going crazy enough to want it to stop. The idea about the darvacet came from a treatment center i was in and thats how they detoxed you. My fear was,i messed up,going to be kicking and not being able to take it and go get some pills to make it stop & be back to either using or some bad withdrawals. But I was just freaking out. And im actually fine,nothing i cant handle. Live&Learn..day by day or minute by minute for me sometimes. thanks

[J T Junig, MD PhD]

I don't know if you are able to see it, but you are still using.  You have found a new excuse to use-- but frankly, nobody takes percocet for sore knuckles from a physical altercation-- they ice the hand if things are really bad, but usually 600 mg of ibuprofen will treat the pain from anything short of fractures-- and even then, ice and ibuprofen would be enough.  

People addicted to pain pills see everything as an excuse to medicate pain.  Headache?  Reach for pain pills. Sore back?  Reach for pain pills.  Sore hand?  Pain pills!

Non- addicts rarely use opioids. As I think of every member of my family, nobody has taken anything stronger than vicodin throughout their lives, and the people who took vicodin took it after surgery for a day or two.  I'm not saying that they are 'heroes';  they are just typical of the population in general.  

Darvocet is about as good a pain reliever as aspirin or ibuprofen, so if you are truly ready to give up opioids, you need to see opioids not as something to jump at with every little injury, but as something that you never take-- NEVER-- unless there are NO other options, and a doctor is closely monitoring your use.  The days of playing your own doctor have to go!  

As for 'pain driving you back to using', that's a great excuse, but you're trying to ******** a bullshitter.  If you can't take the horrible misery of a sore knuckle a couple of days after punching someone,  there's little chance you'll stay clean anyway.  I mean really-- what are you going to bump into tomorrow?