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Question about Pain Management
I've been giving this a lot of thought. Because opiate withdrawal is not life threatening, doctors are handing these things out like candy. Yes, you get that little pamphlet advising you that these drugs can be addictive. The truth is that these drugs were never intended for long term use. I think it would only take a few minutes out of a doctors time to show you a short video of what these drugs can do over prolong use.........addiction and dependence is a very fine line and showing a short video of what one will suffer as a result of prolonged use (watching someone suffer withdrawal) as a possibility may make the patient make alternative choices.
There is no reason that I can see for doctors to be prescribing medications that at one time were strictly for patients on their death beds.........virtually nobody reads those pamphlets anyway, so where does the responsibility lie?.......If you are informed correctly, then your doctor can accept no blame.
Nauty
There is no reason that I can see for doctors to be prescribing medications that at one time were strictly for patients on their death beds.........virtually nobody reads those pamphlets anyway, so where does the responsibility lie?.......If you are informed correctly, then your doctor can accept no blame.
Nauty
Nauty, I think it was wise to suggest this thread come to a close, but I just had to comment on the high heels and a couple quick things. You go girl! on the sexy shoe thing! I can't wear them anymore and there probably aren't many who are all that choked up about it! lol, but they ARE wonderful, and make you feel SO GOOD! Everyone has to have something that makes them feel good about themselves - how they look, feel, whatever - and no matter what it is that is taken away by a disease or condition - it's a loss! And we ALL mourn losses, even if they're different from someone else.
Also, jsuzanne, Montel has had MS for quite a while. AND - he DOES have a real life. Just lives part of it in the limelight. Montel is a very busy man. Who ever got the idea that being famous means you have a lot of free time - that one doesn't make much sense to me - but...again, everyone's different. I've found that most - not all - of the things money can buy, as far as alternative therapy is concerned, a motivated patient can do on their own. For example, you don't need a gym membership to do yoga or work out, and as far as having time to meditate etc., - I have MS, and time isn't the factor. MS is a very variable disease, as I'm sure you know. Everyone's symptoms are different. Everyone responds to treatment differently. So it's a bad disease to use to compare people. (I DO wish I had the money to be treated with acupuncture though!) I believe meditation can be a very powerful thing, but it isn't going to take everyone's pain away - no matter how much free time they have. Also, the drugs that have come out recently - I've tried, and I can't tolerate them, and am going to have to go on an old one instead. Sorry about your mom - I know being sick with kids is very very hard. We're all in this together - just trying to have the best life possible - given our own unique set of circumstances. I would imagine there are things you feel very sad about not being able to do anymore that others would find to be of less importance. It's what makes us interesting! One person's high heels might be another's game of tennis. I know I can't possibly understand another person's burdens. Sounds like you have a lot to juggle and I wish you well.
Blessings to all, and may all your nerves fire with less intensity! Jan
Also, jsuzanne, Montel has had MS for quite a while. AND - he DOES have a real life. Just lives part of it in the limelight. Montel is a very busy man. Who ever got the idea that being famous means you have a lot of free time - that one doesn't make much sense to me - but...again, everyone's different. I've found that most - not all - of the things money can buy, as far as alternative therapy is concerned, a motivated patient can do on their own. For example, you don't need a gym membership to do yoga or work out, and as far as having time to meditate etc., - I have MS, and time isn't the factor. MS is a very variable disease, as I'm sure you know. Everyone's symptoms are different. Everyone responds to treatment differently. So it's a bad disease to use to compare people. (I DO wish I had the money to be treated with acupuncture though!) I believe meditation can be a very powerful thing, but it isn't going to take everyone's pain away - no matter how much free time they have. Also, the drugs that have come out recently - I've tried, and I can't tolerate them, and am going to have to go on an old one instead. Sorry about your mom - I know being sick with kids is very very hard. We're all in this together - just trying to have the best life possible - given our own unique set of circumstances. I would imagine there are things you feel very sad about not being able to do anymore that others would find to be of less importance. It's what makes us interesting! One person's high heels might be another's game of tennis. I know I can't possibly understand another person's burdens. Sounds like you have a lot to juggle and I wish you well.
Blessings to all, and may all your nerves fire with less intensity! Jan
I run my own ONLINE business. Not sit on my butt collecting SSI. And, I don't know about you, but I love Sexy High heel shoes. I am not a female truck driver, nor do wear wranglers and plaid shirts, and spit chewing tobacco, so, it's not cool to stereo people.
I hope I answered all of your question. I really don't see any reason to respond to this post any further. If you find any truth in this thread or want to be in denial...then that's ok too.......I really enjoyed reading most of the posts, and the debate was quite interesting if you read very closely..........
The statement about Montel Williams was completely FALSE....at least google him first so you don't make yourself look ...um....best to get your facts straight.
God Bless all who suffer chronic pain, addiction, dependence, and any "pain management" patient. We are all entitled to our opinions and I have much respect for all who voiced......Peace~
Nauty...........
I hope I answered all of your question. I really don't see any reason to respond to this post any further. If you find any truth in this thread or want to be in denial...then that's ok too.......I really enjoyed reading most of the posts, and the debate was quite interesting if you read very closely..........
The statement about Montel Williams was completely FALSE....at least google him first so you don't make yourself look ...um....best to get your facts straight.
God Bless all who suffer chronic pain, addiction, dependence, and any "pain management" patient. We are all entitled to our opinions and I have much respect for all who voiced......Peace~
Nauty...........
How about everyone just agree that it IS addiction, (I tell people I'm addicted, because I don't mind the term) but that there are different types of addiction. One where you seek the drugs when it isn't actually necessary, or that there are other things that would work - and the other is when you take the narcotics for a long period of time due to legitimate need after having tried everything else, and you become dependent physiologically. If I only had the pain I have from my C1-C7 being all herniated and C3-4 having a bone spur that causes foramin narrowing and nerve impingement, I wouldn't need anything but physical therapy. I now understand your situation. Many in that situation feel different levels of pain, however, as you said, but I just wanted to clarify that others, me, have that as one of the minor problems. I don't really think there are any people who have all the diseases and disorders I have and believe me, I don't say that with some sort of sick pride, but to point out how different we are - as even Nauty accepts.
JaggedLittlePill, - people who are dependent on narcotics DO have withdrawal symptoms and they know it. They are only stating that they aren't taking them by choice, or to get high.
I believe everyone could agree on this, I really do. It's a communication problem that gets compounded by emotions. Yesterday was my Bday and I had to spend it in bed. Even WITH narcotics, I wasn't able to move an inch. The day was spent moaning and groaning. Quite a celebration!
Take care everyone, and try not to worry about anyone except yourself. After all, it's enough to worry about, right?
Blessings, Jan And BTW, I'm addicted to diet-coke (caffeine), also. when I stop, my blood vessels dilate and I get a headache that won't stop!
JaggedLittlePill, - people who are dependent on narcotics DO have withdrawal symptoms and they know it. They are only stating that they aren't taking them by choice, or to get high.
I believe everyone could agree on this, I really do. It's a communication problem that gets compounded by emotions. Yesterday was my Bday and I had to spend it in bed. Even WITH narcotics, I wasn't able to move an inch. The day was spent moaning and groaning. Quite a celebration!
Take care everyone, and try not to worry about anyone except yourself. After all, it's enough to worry about, right?
Blessings, Jan And BTW, I'm addicted to diet-coke (caffeine), also. when I stop, my blood vessels dilate and I get a headache that won't stop!
Ok well when your pain stops, abruptly stop the opiates and im sure your not going to have any withdrawals.
This is only my 2nd post on this board but I want to say something.
I know alot about Montel Williams and he hasn't had MS for very long. By the time he got it there were already really effective medications/treatments for it. My mom was diagnosed over 25 years ago when nobody really knew much about it. She had 6 kids and a job, no nannies, maids, etc... Montel Williams probably has lots of time to do yoga and meditate get accupuncture or whatever. What does an average person with a real life do in that case?
Also, naughty I'm so extremely curious what you do that's not work/not government assistance---yet still produces an income? And the high heel thing's pretty confusing to me as well. Do you have kids? responsibilities? Many of us just don't have lives that allow us the freedom to feel bad about not being able to wear heels.
I know alot about Montel Williams and he hasn't had MS for very long. By the time he got it there were already really effective medications/treatments for it. My mom was diagnosed over 25 years ago when nobody really knew much about it. She had 6 kids and a job, no nannies, maids, etc... Montel Williams probably has lots of time to do yoga and meditate get accupuncture or whatever. What does an average person with a real life do in that case?
Also, naughty I'm so extremely curious what you do that's not work/not government assistance---yet still produces an income? And the high heel thing's pretty confusing to me as well. Do you have kids? responsibilities? Many of us just don't have lives that allow us the freedom to feel bad about not being able to wear heels.
Wrong you are, and I was waiting for that. Dependence and addiction are not the same thing, and it strikes a nerve to be told you're an addict when you aren't.
So take the soapbox elsewhere please.
So take the soapbox elsewhere please.
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