please can you help me

[thyroidian]

I am new to this forum, but 12years ago, i was diagnosed with graves disease which was a living hell, i have just had my second surgery to graves in august2009.
I am 39 years and feel like ive no energy, and taking 50mcg of thyroxine for the thyroid.
I have had burning pain in were i thought was my kidneys on and off for over a year, so i looked to my adrenals, as i an having adrenal symptoms, so i had a saliva test done, as all doctors i have seen just seem to blow adrenals out of the water, and dont want to look at them.
My tests results are.

sample1.post awakening  inside range 19.0.     ref 12-22
sample2 +4-5 hours  ,outside range      2.9       ref5.0-9.0
sample 3+4-5 hours  outside range       1.3       ref 3.0-7.0
sample 4. prior to sleep inside range     1.9       ref. 1.0-3.0
DHEA LEVELS
sample 2(am)   outside range...0.34                  ef 0.40-1.47
sample 3(pm)   outside range    0.23              ref . 0.40-1.47
DHEA ; cortisol ratio outside range.   1.14      ref 2.0-6.0

The testing genova diagnostics, in uk said im stage 3.
I would like some help and insight in these results please, as i dont know much about adrenals or what it means.
All i know is i feel terrible in myself, and know theres more than thyroid going on.
If anyone can help i would be more than grateful.
Thank you for taking time to help
Nicola    

[rumpled]

I don't know the names of the tests. I came by AI by way of having my adrenals yanked out.

There will be a stimulation test - I had that as it is the same test for low cortisol for high cortisol.

When one hormone is off, others are off, and cortisol effects the thyroid hormone.

[thyroidian]

dear rumpled .thank you for taking the time out to answer my questions and post. you help was very beneficial to me.
I was just wondering if you know what blood test it is you need , to find out if you have auto-immune adrenal disease, as i have already graves disease, but am now told after having my second surgery, im hypo, and am having an hell off a time trying to get my levels back in range with levothyroxine,
I have chronic burning pains in my kidneys which i presume are my adrenals, and have dizzy spells, and diarrhoea, i have never felt as poorly in all my life.
I am very grateful for all your terrific help, and advice.
I wish you well . you are a great advocate for this forum
Thank you . nicola

[rumpled]

Most docs would not recognize an adrenal gland if you took them out and dangled them on your ears.

That being said, looks like yours are a bit sluggish - but since you hit the range during the morning, the main *mainstream* testing time, and at night - when I usually advocate testing, but you tested pretty early for me - I like midnight.

I have no idea what stage 3 is though...

Stimulation testing, and other testing is needed to see what else is going on - perhaps you are just on the cusp - they are ok, but who knows how long. Also, what other hormones are not functioning. I know from experience that they find one that does not work and tend to stop, when I know now, when one is out of wack, it means likely others are too.