What is an alcoholic

[RichReligion]

If you're an "alcoholic".
Have you ever been use and abused, and then talked about and ridiculed. Has anyone ever diminished your qualities because the relationship didn’t work out? Maybe you were too strong for them and they thought that they were ready? Or maybe you were just a rebound and meant to be a temporary fix? Some even want to be rebounded and used for what they can do, and then go on about their business, but rebounder just can’t get over their issues quick enough.

Is your relationship with alcohol a good or bad one? Do you balance your alcohol till the point where it doesn’t get in the way of important things, like work? Does your alcohol influence your negative thoughts or alter your finer judgment? If so then you may be an alcoholic.

There was a time when alcohol was all we had. The was harldy any surgeries going being performed without it. Now that we have all these different types of meds it seems that we are rejecting alcohol. Alcohol can be controlled by drinking  in moderation and/or when the pain needs to be numbed. Alcohol abuse comes in when we allow the addiction to set in, like drinking when there is no pain to be numbed.

I believe that alcohol could still sever the same purposes that it did in the old days, but with the exception that we continue or theropy sessions. hopefully theropy and alcohol could team up to get us through these strange times. Of course its forbidden to consume alcohol with med, and that's why I feel that if we could balance alcohol and theropy it could make the same affect as the meds.

[ibizan]

What is it ur trying to say here?This is a forum for ppl wanting info about alcohol problems not" balancing alcohol and therapy having the same effect as medication!"

[broknbck]

Hey, i am coming over here from the meds addiction. there is no good thing going on with them either. just alot of addiction and withdrawl. i am learning there is a fine line for each.(meds & alcohol)

they are both playing with fire and people have to just deal with their
"strange times" and not add more turmoil by including meds or alcohol.

[RichReligion]

The question was what is an alcoholic? Some of us might not be alcoholics and I find that claiming a sickness can lock you in. I realized that i'm not an alcoholic, but if i stop seeking professional help for my problems and continuing to consume alcohol could make me that.

Its kinda like a step one to becoming well: identify your self..and acknowledge how deep you are into alcoholism.

"Hey, i am coming over here from the meds addiction. there is no good thing going on with them either. just alot of addiction and withdrawl. i am learning there is a fine line for each.(meds & alcohol)"
Exactly, some have addictions to what ever, and there are ways to deal with them addictions. Who could stop cold turkey? Very few. I stopped take meds because side affect, and it still messed with my liver...

My ultimate point is if you're gonna be drinking to numb it...follow through with professional help, with the intentions to overcome.

[ibizan]

a alcoholic is one who drinks to get drunk,loses control over the amount and their behavior while maybe not intentional,has blackouts but not always,continues to drink despite the problems it causes...legal,financial,personal.medical,job.family etc. and denies that their drinking is causing these problems.....and claims to be in control while in reality they r outta control!

[Tink70]

What's your fr**** point???  Your entire post(s) ignite my psychotic tendencies!  Such self righteous BS!  Are you trying to convince us or yourself?  I have very little tolerance today, I suppose but Good Gracious....what exactly are you looking for here?  Someone to tell you that you ARE an  alcoholic?  That you ARENT an alcoholic?  Do you want someone to argue with you?  What is it that you want?  You sound like a confused, scared, aurgumentative windbag that's read way too many books and has very little grasp on a true sense of spirituality.  Go see a priest or something....
Jeez....
(Sorry Ibizan - I just couldn't keep my tongue on this one!)

[RichReligion]

Thanx. Thats what i'm looking for.....

[RichReligion]

WOW! Not confused I just want to find out where everyone is on this one...oppinions not arguments...

The reason: I have BP disorder and I find that I have to be tipsy just to be social, and I was wondering if I could be classified as an alcoholic. I feel that I could control it through moderation, but I have thought of it taking control of me...scared, yes; argumentive, yes; winbag? LOL.

I respect your reply, regardless; I like real talk...and thanx for that, Tink.

[ibizan]

u do not have to be tipsy 2 b social....how much does it take to get u tipsy?u look like a good sized guy!i've never met a BP who could successfully moderate alcohol or drugs.....many prefer the effects of it over their meds!also u know alcohol will delete the efficacy of ur meds.....not good....but u are the choice maker!

[RichReligion]

My bad I thought my post went through a few day ago...

But, I Just started drinking. I experimented and it worked. My father was a full blown alchy, and I watched him distroy himself. I only drink before I go out, for one, and I don't like the tase of it...and that's the reason for my post; I want to see if everyone could view me as an alchy, in their opinions. I stopped taking Meds when I found alcohol, so I chose one. I realize that my BP is cause by my own thoughts and fears, and when I drink the disappear...Sober, people remind me of my challenges too much, all it take is a code word, like cheating, and i'll automatically meditated on my suspisions of my girl. All it take is a little laughter and I explode because I think you're laughing at me.
So, I take all that into concideration and protect others by not giving a damn, thanx to alcohol. But I ballance the alcohol, not with meds, but theropy and positive thinking.

[ibizan]

Bi-polar disorder is not caused by ur thoughts and feelings....it is a chemical imbalance in the brain that u had no contol over or choice in the matter!And u r genetically predisposed to alcoholism due to ur dad...alcoholism was rampant in my family...most of it denied of course...and it is not what others think of u here or anywhere..is is what u know in ur heart to be true!ur choice of alcohol is not a good one..one day it may boomerang on u....i know many BP's who find pot calming and more effective than their meds...which eventually boomerangs on them.......but u will xplore and find out on ur own!and i pray no harm comes to or others!namaste!:)oh and u do give a damn.....the alcohol just masks that as well!

[RichReligion]

Thank, I think about the boomerang thing all the time; I don't underestamate it a bit. I i'm starting to realize that the BP thing could have very well been there for a while and just so happen to spurt in these times. I guess me stressing over the last 3 years just made it all the worse. Yes, and alcohol is a mask, i just trust it more than meds. Atleast it doesn't give me twitches.

[ibizan]

i been looking at u and ur and ur friends pics in ur profile,looks like ur in the quite the party atmosphere!Reminds me of my past life in my 20's!alcohol is not a good friend to trust.....it can give u twitches and usually bites u in the booty and not in a good way!:)BP usually is within folks beginning in teens...20's...they know somethin ain't right in there...and to talk about it would make it appear as if one were CRAZY......so they struggle with the ping-pong moods and emotions finding that alcohol and drugs helps balance the teeter totter...but it does end up being a false illusion!

[broknbck]

No, i do not think i am an alcoholic. problem drinker. whatever it is or anyone wants to call it - i am wanting to get rid of it. alcohol is just causing me all kinds of problems.

Being out around people socially and being comfortable is just a process that happens when people grow up and mature. Also it depends on the kind of crowd you are socializing with. If you are not comfortable on your own with this crowd- well maybe it is not the right one for you.

First we have to be comfortable and confident with our own self and there is where lies alot of problems for people. there is nothing wrong with being a quiet person or an introvert- that may just be your personality. and if you are happy being that , than who cares? This is you and you like you and if someone else doesn't - that's their problem.

Now on the other hand if you don't like who you are- than change it.
you can be anyone you want to be.And you do not need drugs or alcohol to do it.

What are you afraid of? face it. what is the worst that can happen?

hey, what is your religion?

[j34]

For me personally I can not ingest any type of drugs Liquid or other!. I am powerless over my addiction and my life is unmanageable,I have to work on what is really wrong with me , is it fear??. Old habits,bad behavior? Drugs and alcohol are but a symptom by not having any mind altering substances in my body I can think clearer and take a good look at my part in things and as of today I have 6o days clean and WOW it really isn't everybody else's fault!

[ibizan]

u go girl!60 days rocks!i have an allergy to alcohol/drugs...when i consume it i break out in spots.....other cities.....towns...bad spots.....and half the time did not remember how i got there!started at 14 went to rehab at 28.....and now at 53 am enjoying the lack of chaos drama hangovers blackouts waste of $$$$ that all go with partying  lifestyle!

[RichReligion]

Yes, it is an illusion: admittingly. I feel convicted because I know and I just don't feel like walking through all of that drama without it. my battle is overwhelming: BP, Anxiety, and all that good stuff. it is a Fear to that extent. I love people, and I do want the old me back, but almost convinced that it is over. I do have more important things to do, like get me together, but I miss being social. And yes I do find myself being  with low self-esteem, and that pulls a great cloud over my head...It's a true battle: the club promotions, the music industry, etc. I just want to be me again.

[ibizan]

well dude...u have good insight and KNOW whats going on inside of u!the lights r on in the house......now from here on out how u re-arrange the furniture is key!what is the REAL U?do u see ur new child often?

[RichReligion]

Not as often as I would like; im in Las Vegas and he's in LA...BabyMomaDrama!!!!! Did a fertenity test(as a BP would) and found that he is actally mines...I love that, but his mom is  such a *****.lol But gotta love him. Ima doit for him...I gotta when.

[ibizan]

ur doin what for him?if u mean trying to clean up ur act that is good.....many start doing that for their kids....then for themselves occurs.....don't label mom as THE entire problem...it does take 2 2 TANGO!Namaste!:)

[RichReligion]

true...she likes to stress me on purpose cuz I don't want to be with her and put up with her selfishness. The other day she told me that she was gonna use the money that I was sending my son for diapers and Infameal for her trip to vegas and to watch a show with her friend....!!huH!! i'm not supporting a trip to vegas and a show...Its not even worth arguing about cuz she knows it aint right...its like talkin to a tree that talks...No brains, just natuarally beautiful and good to climb on...

[ibizan]

well i guess thats what ya get for the climbing on deal!thinking with the wrong head will always cause problems......sure glad i don't have one of those....i see it lead men around like a divining rod!