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This isn't really a question, it's more or less a walkthrough of what I am going through with anxiety problems and alcoholismAlcoholism Alcoholism - resources in hopes that it might help someone out there. Had I read online about how commonCommon cold anxiety attacks after a night of drinking are, maybe I could have started my road to recoveryRecovery position - series sooner, and maybe some of you can.
Anyways, I am a 25-year old college student (receiving my 2nd BA tomorrow actually :D) who had never experienced anything related to anxiety or panicPanic disorder Panic disorder with agoraphobia attacks ever in my life. I've always been a laid back, easy-going individual. Last May, after a weekend of beer pong and partying, I woke up on the following Monday and instantly felt dizzy and out of breathBreath alcohol test Breath holding spell Breath odor, like I was going to pass out or fall over. I didn't know what it was. I thought maybe I had hit my headHead and face reconstruction Head injury Head lice Indications of head injury Radial head injury during the previous weekend's festivities. A couple days later I still had a dizzy feeling so I had my ladyfriend drive me to the ER for fear of having post-concussion syndrome or something. They gave me something for my nerves (Loreazapam maybe?) and did a catscan and everything was A-OK. I had no idea why I was feeling like this, but I finally told my mom about it and she googled it and thought maybe I was having some panic attacks. Over the next couple of months during the Summer, my roommates and I's drinking continued, and so did my anxiety issues (always the day after going out). At first I tried blaming them on stress or my girl or anything else besides drinking. I didn't want to think for ONE SECOND that my favorite past-time (drinking and being social with the wonderful people in my life) was actually the crux of my least favorite past-time (anxiety attacks.)
Before I had my first one last May, I had heard of people having anxiety problems (my ex-girlfriends mom took meds for them) but just scoffed at people actually having to take medications to control their thoughts. What pish-posh I thought to myself. Well, after 1 year of having these #$%^$@ panic attacks, it's not pish-posh anymore. I have finally come to terms with the fact that it IS my drinking that is causing these (and smoking a pack of marlboro lights on the weekends in the bars does not help!!!!) I don't even really get typical hangovers anymore like I used to, well maybe I do, but they are being over-shadowed by the PURE AGONY of the anxiety attacks. Sometimes they go on for the whole day. There are several different reasons about why people have panic attacks, hypoglycemia is one, but I have finally realized that it is my drinking style. Thank God I'm getting out of college so I won't feel the need to go out and get belligerent drunk with my buddies anymore. I know that being in college is no excuse, but hey, it's fun!!!
All this being said, I am working on curing myself. I have always been a type of person who needs to be in control of my own life/mind/health and this anxiety **** has got to stop!!!! I am going to start taking daily doses of St. John's Wort and B complex, to see if that helps. I am also going to get back into my workout routine once my job starts in a couple of weeks. I know that an active lifestyle will help me on the road to recovery, as well as those supplements. But I am starting to realize the #1 thing that will cure these attacks is to stop drinking. Every time I have one of these day-long attacks, I swear to myself that I'm done drinking. But the truth of the matter, is that after a few days, I feel my equilibrium has returned to a pretty awesome level, and I forget about how the major anxiety attack I just had a few days ago made my life complete hell. That's how **** works. Out of sight, out of mind. If I don't have one for a few days, I start thinking I'm invincible again, and we go party. I need to grow up and realize that there is a cure to feeling this PURE AGONY! And it's in the form of alcohol abstinence. It's going to suck and I'm sure I'm gonna miss the bars. But I will not miss these anxiety attacks.
I will keep my progress updated on this forum, because I now know that there are TONS of people out there who are suffering through the same problems that I am currently faced with. We all know the cure, deep down, we just don't want to accept it. To those reading this, hopefully I have calmed you down a little. I know it's hard. It sucks. It's hell on earth, in your brain, and it feels like there is no way out. There is. I think. So I'm going to try the B complex and the SJW and try to keep the drinking and smoking under extreme control.
Peace and love and freedom of YOUR MIND.
Take care,
C
I guess I wanted to discuss my issues a little more, in hopes that I will get some feedback from any of you individuals out there (whether you are suffering from anxiety or if you're just a curious web-surfer). I have been looking online for cures to this and have learned that there is no "magic phrase" that you can tell yourself to calm down. I have tried a lot of the home remedies that most of the forums suggest, but none of them work. I'm talking about deep-diaphram breathing. I'm talking about telling yourself that you're ok and it will pass. I'm talking about laying flat on your back and just trying to chill out. I've tried reading. Nothing works. Even if the anxiety is in the back of my mind, it's still in there, waiting to creep out and make my life hell for the rest of the day.
There is no magic or mystery of why I feel like this and why lots of other people have anxiety issues after a night of less than healthy drinking. It is the plain and simple fact that my drinking habits are starting to take a toll on my physical and mental health. And that is something that I don't want to live with. I want to be healthy and happy. I want to know deep-down that I am going to have a fulfilling life and that nothing bad is going to happen to me that could have been prevented. I know that many of you out there want the same thing. If quitting heavy drinking seems too daunting right off the get-go, try to stop smoking at first. Take it one step at a time. I've read that smoking raises blood pressure and therefore exacerbates anxiety/stress, so it's a no-brainer that the social-smoking needs to stop. I also read that it's a good idea to cut out caffeine (no more Diet Mt. Dew *cry *throwfit *repeat).
So if you are reading this looking for how to stop anxiety and panic attacks after a night of drinking, the simple answer is to STOP drinking. If you want an alternative solution, one that doesn't involve alcohol abstinence or mind-enslaving medications, continue to read about how I am going to try combating this terrible, terrible condition.
1) Stop smoking cigarettes (they taste like **** and you wake up in the morning feeling like a bobcat pooped in your mouth)
2) Start taking daily supplements of B-complex and St. John's Wort. (A mutivitamin is probably a no-brainer)
3) Get into a more active routine like working out 3 times a week or going on jogs. Being physically active works wonders for the mind. I don't know what it is, but being active gives me this feeling that is just plain good. I imagine this feeling will help keep anxiety at bay.
4) Go to websites and forums such as this one and read about what other people are going through and inform yourself on what may or may not be causing your situation. Try different solutions until one works. I can't imagine that any of the proposed solutions will have any negative impacts on you. (Except maybe prescription medications)
5) Let yourself go and just accept the fact that you are having an anxiety issue. Don't sweat it. You have had them before, and you didn't die, so you aren't going to die now. Relax. Life is good. It may not seem like it's good now, but you know that deep-down, life is AWESOME and it makes you smile a little bit knowing that you will once again believe that. Little self-pep-talks like that should help a little. Like I said before, there is no magic phrase to alleviate this ****. But maybe this type of positive thinking will help some people. It is helping me a little bit by typing it, so maybe it can help you.
6) Cut caffeine out of your daily routine. I imagine this is going to be VERY difficult for a lot of people. People need their morning coffee, their afternoon soda, or evening "whatever people drink in the evening". But caffeine obviously is a stimulant, therefore it probably does nothing but enhance your feelings of anxiety and impending doom.
7) Be open and honest with those close to you about your problems. Don't be afraid of what you're going through and don't be afraid to tell a loved one what you're going through. Chances are, that anyone you tell with be sympathetic with you and maybe even try to help you themselves. Granted, you really have had to experience a panic attack before you can begin to help someone else through them. I truly had NO clue about anything related to anxiety until I had my first attack. All I can say is "wow, they really suck". Talking to people has helped me somewhat. If it's the day after a night on the town and I feel edgy and anxious and like there's a bomb ticking in my brain, it helps a little to actually tell people that you feel like ****. Something as simple as a "man, these anxiety attacks are so fun, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I didn't have them", will hopefully put your mind a little more at ease if you're around other people. There are certain people in your life who will just naturally calm you down by being around them, and there are others who will just annoy the **** out of you and make your panic attacks worse (find the latter group of people and stay away from them when you're having an episode). But I guess it just all depends on the day. Some days when I have them I want to be around my girlfriend and I feel a little safer. Other days I want to go buy a crowbar from the Ace Hardware down the street. haha totally kidding, but you know what I mean (yap yap yap yap). Don't be afraid to be honest with your condition, they are common. Hell, maybe even one of your closest friends has been going through the SAME thing without you knowing. Maybe you can both get on the same page and work with each other to fight this awful plague of mankind. :)
8) Drink lots of water. Drinking heavily dehydrates you to begin with, so if you can take dehydration out of the equation, that is one less thing you will have to go through and will take a load of stress off your body. (Wow, I'm trying to sound like a Doctor, even though I'm NOT. 100% Network Technician here :) ) So yeah, drink water like you drank beer the night before and you should be able to stay pretty hydrated.
9) Don't use any type of illicit drugs. I have not had any experiences with cocaine or marijuana in like a year and a half, but I can't imagine that using that stuff while going through anxiety issues is even close to what you're gonna want to be doing. No brainer.
10) Stop drinking strong spirits. I read this on a different site and must be honest when I say I have no idea what a strong spirit is. I'm guessing it's like 80-proof booze that tastes so delicious with Coke. So cut out the Whiskey/Diets or Appletinis. Stick with light beer (if you must drink.)
11) Reply to this post with your own story or questions.
Well, I am going to stop rambling now. I really hope this has helped some of you. If there is anything more that anyone wants to know, don't hesitate to ask. I'm pretty open with my experiences and I will be even more so if it can help others. If you take nothing away from this post or if none of those 11 things have helped you, then I guess all I can say is that everything is fine and life is great. Yeah, it sucks now, but it will pass. And you know it will. You have just trained yourself to think like this. You have trained yourself to have anxiety attacks the day after drinking. You were so scared for your life of getting them when you started, that you slowly developed a compulsion to think like that, to let your heart race and your mind go out of control. But you are in control, and you always were. Give it time. Get some professional help if nothing else.
Ok so sorry if I seem like a total wad, but I am really enjoying the thought that I might be able to help just 1 other person. Then my work is complete. :) So, to add a couple more possible helpful hints in dealing with anxiety attacks, music might be one of them. Listen to music that calms you down. Stay away from your Pantera albums. (Unless you find if very inspiring.) One song in particular that is just b-e-a-yootiful is a song of the soundtrack for the movie Gladiator. I'm not sure what it's called but it's by Hans Zimmer with Lisa Gerrard singing. It's incredible. One sec, I'm gonna google it to get the actual name.....oh, duh...it's called Now We Are Free. (be sure to acquire this song LEGALLY) :)
Close your eyes, listen to it, and let me know what you think.
Its all about the booze, cowboy. Do what you want with vitamins and SJW and anything else, but, at the end of the day, its all about the alcohol. Strong spirits? Spare me. Alcohol is alcohol. Whether gulping 3 martinis or chugging 12 beers in an hour, it is the alcohol in whatever form you take it that works the "magic."
So, to put another arrow in your quivver, consider going to some AA meetings and getting on a program.
I appreciate all the work you have put into your messages and wish you the very best.
My daughter's pdoc also said that since alcohol is a depressant you have to watch that too. She says that the depressant effect hits about 3 days after drinking so sometimes people don't make that association with their depressed feeling. Sucks huh!
I can see where ur coming from man, Im 22 and loved to party, until I started having panic/anxiety attacks. Ive cut down on the drinking a lot, but thinking I was fine drank the last few weekends. Wasnt smart been waking up in the middle of the night again and last night I was having aching pains in my arms. I definately think you should take it easy on the boozin, I was supposed to go out partyin tontie but I will pass on that now after I didnt get any sleep last night.
hi! i really want to thank you for your message(s). i am a 22 year old female. i drank pretty heavily thursday night, had a terrible panic attack yesterday, and i am still feeling major anxiety today. i'm just hoping it will go away soon. i've been drinking A LOT of water, and i took a nice, relaxing bath. taking slow, deep breaths helped a lot too. i'm gonna go to the doctor later to see if i can get something to help keep me calm, but i tell you one thing...i am NOT drinking like that again. really, i wouldn't mind if i never have a drink ever again. it's not worth feeling this way. i have said that i'm never drinking again after a crappy hangover, but this has gone too far. it's great to see that someone knows what i'm going through...for a while i felt like i was the only one that was going through this. i know now that it's just the alcohol, and i know what i need to do about it. thanks again! have a great day! :o)
This is a direct cut and paste of my response to someone from a very similar thread. Take it for what it's worth:
"Anxiety is such an awful feeling that it's difficult for me to understand how anyone can deliberately go BACK to a trigger that would cause a full week of it. I noticed the exact same thing early on when my anxiety phases began and today I have a 1 glass of wine or 2 beer limit. On most days it's zero. Anxiety *****. I do what you can to avoid it. If you're not sure if you're addicted to alcohol, there's a good forum for it right here on medhelp. Go talk to people. Get educated.
Haha, I know the exact song you're talking about. It is sooo chill. But man, as I was sitting here reading this, I just was struck at how similar our situations are. You made your first post about a month before I joined the site, but I was going through the same thing at the exact same time.
I have drank heavily daily for a year or so, but due to some stressful situations, I began drinking a lot more in the last few months. One of my roommates was no longer going to be able to live with us, and I was really upset about it. Long story short, the increased drinking led to increased anxiety, increased anxiety made me drink even more to calm down. You know the rest. After a few terrible panic attacks I joined this site and looked for help.
I tried taking Zoloft but found I reacted terribly to it, and then when a different doctor wanted me to try Paxil I realized I probably didn't even need medication at all. Drinking was the only real problem. I've been going through ups and downs as I've tried to cut back and limit my drinking. And I have hit a wall a couple times. However, I have made improvements. I only drank 4 days in the last week instead of all 7. One of those nights was particularly terrible, and I woke up puking. After that I decided that even cutting down the nights I drank wasn't enough, I probably needed to straight up quit.
I came home from college to spend this difficult time with my family. Right now, It's been about 36 hours since my last drink. I'm feeling okay, tonight will probably suck worse than last night due to trouble sleeping sober, but I imagine I'll feel even better tomorrow morning if I keep staying sober. One thing about alcohol is, it seems like an impossible cycle to break. You drink due to anxiety. The next day anxiety is worse because of the hangover, so you drink to get over that. But then if you want to quit, you also have terrible anxiety. After a few days sober, you are so anxious that drinking seems like the only solution, and so on. I think that making it past those first few vital days is really important. And I really think that guys like us will be able to do it, because we want to change so badly. St. Johns Wort is a great idea, I took it for a year or so and it helped me a ton (the only reason I stopped is because of the doctor wanting me to try zoloft instead.) In fact, I'll probably start taking it again.
Sorry if I hijacked your thread, I just wanted to relate how much I know how you feel. I have only a very slight history of anxiety in my life, and it was only after drinking uncontrollably that it became a problem. You seem to be in the same boat. I see you haven't made a post since May 10th, 2 months ago, so I really would like to hear how you are doing.
Sounds like you guys have it under control, knowing is half the battle though I remeber the first few times when I had no clue what was happening to me and not knowing is the worst feeling, Another thing that happens to is I cant sleep the next day causing me to stay up and restless, all I keep telling myself is it will all get better soon.
Hey Worried826, I saw your post on the 10th of May, don't sweat it dude the great thing about anxiety ( if there is anything ) is how much better you feel when is gone, that overwhelming sensation is lifted and then is all smooth sailing. Boozing donesn't seem to help me if I have anxiety because I only get it after hitting the sauce, but the feelings are the same, Nausea, Headaches,and Dehydration on top of the anxiety really doesn't help but the way I see it you begin to deal with it slowly and before you know it you are out in the clear, hang on dude, there is nothing to be worried about.
What is the correlation between drinking and anxiety? I went out on Saturday night and stayed out until 2am, drank 3 drinks (Schnapps/ orange juice) and danced. It is Wednesday and I still feel like ****, my whole body hurts, I am dizzy, I am extremely tired, like I cannot put 1 foot in front of the other. Is this all still from the alchohol? I don't drink very often, maybe a couple times per year, nor do I stay out this late
I have recently been surfing the net on this subject. I have been suffering from these "anxiety overs" for about a year now. I am a 26 year old male. It looks like this is common in about 1 and 10 males about 20-40 yrs. old.
I only drink one to three times a month as I have done for the past 3 years since quitting some harder drugs. Anyways I still get these "anxiety overs" and yes a few days later I feel fine. I don't even get headaches or nausea just ludicrous thoughts and feelings of panic. HORRIBLE. You wonder why you do this to yourself but do it again.
I've tried going for walks, vitamins, water, relaxation techniques, quit smoking and caffeine for the last 8 months you name it, nothings worked. I choose not to take medication as a fear of becoming dependant. I do not want to give up social drinking on special occasions. I do not feel I have a drinking problem as I have been addicted to other substances in the past. I drink when I want to, sometiomes I go out and not drink at all.
The one thing that takes the edge off is a hard work out. Although it is very difficult to motivate yourself to go to the gym on a hangover. I guess I was on here lookibng for an all natural cure. I'm going to get tested for hypoglycemia and then go from there. I know that it is the alcohol causing the anxiety but I'm clinging to the hope that there is a medical explanation. I'm sure some of you casual drinkers out there are clinging to that hope as well. I guess I should've quit the booze with the drugs. If I have to I will.
As for those trying to quit alcohol. All the power to you. I detoxed and went to drug treatment with several alcoholics. I've seen their pain and their success. Hang in there.
I'm no doctor but 3 drinks for a casual drinker shouldn't make you feel that badly for 4 days. Everyone's bodies are different. It might not hurt to go to your doctor find out if you have any allergies to what you were drinking.
In an answer to your question alcohol is a deppressant and over indulging results in a hang over. Your body is trying to break down toxins while being dehydrated, your blood sugar plummets and your body starts releasing adrenaline giving you that fight or flight sensation. Some of us get it so bad that we have panic attacks and begin to tell ourselves we are going crazy.
i have only read the first 2 posts as im at work but id like to say bvjens31 thanks very much for that. You sound just like me. This stuff really helps. Ill post back in the next couple of days when i can.
my anxiety is sky high after a night of drinking, but i love drinking ahhhhhh dont get me wrong i dont have a problem its jus when i drink all my anxiety symptoms jus disappear but i suffer the day after so im tryin cut down on my beer intake, i find if you are gonna drink make sure you eat something and get a decent nights sleep, then plenty of water the day after, it is cruel how people have to stop what they enjoy doing cause of anxiety, dont get me wrong im not promoting alcohol but its unfair when you have to give up things cause of anxiety.
also too jess i think you could be allergic to, 3 drinks aint a lot on a night out, my friend reacts badly to alcohol especially spirits or alco pops she has hangovers from hell but not as bad as yours!!!!!
I had my 1st anxiety attack after drinking. It scared the ***** out of me. I really hate the fact that alcohol brings on anxiety. I am a social drinker, and when I go out with my friends, I want to be able to have a drink with them!!! But I am really scared to drink again been almost a month since I have had a drink......not even a glass of wine! This has severely damaged my social life. But I guess It is what it is, and we have to deal with it. And what with the vitamins everyone keeps talking about??
I thnk my depressin kick in because I know that I have to deal with this world in my right mind. Depekote made me feel drunk and it gave me liver pains, and so I started drinking and feeling the same way the depekoter made me feel, but without the liver pains or side affects.
Bottom line, if it wasn't for the liquor i'd be in prison for assult and possibly murder. I'm like a time bomb; i don't take sht. I had to scare on guy into dropping the charges, and then they look at me crazy cuz I still come around, even with a restraining order..pshh..what the hell is goin on, I cant stop it...somebody is gonna have to kill me.
So Liquor is my peace maker, untill I find the way out of this maze.
Not to freak you guys out, but my story is identical to yours.... i had my first panic attack after a big day of drinking ( i've been partying hard for like 8 years , various drugs etc). And it continued like that, id go out and binge every weekend, then have a day long panic the next day, etc etc...
then i made the association that the alcohol is causing this, and now it's hard to even go out and have a couple beers.
so i stopped drinking entirely ( has been for a month and a half now)... but the anxiety keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Almost entirely debilitating now, and i've cutout all drugs and what not too.
it truley is horrible, i'm thinking about maybe trying out an anti depressant as i've been dealing with this hell for like a year and used to be the most normal chilled person ever.
good luck, i wish i knew what to do for mine :( it has changed me terribly
Hey everyone! I just thought I'd shoot a quick message out to fill you all in on my condition and what not. I hope all of you that were/are going through similar situations are working on getting better!!
I guess the reason I hopped on here tonight was because I sent this link to my sister. She's 23 and just got engaged a couple months ago, but she also started getting anxiety attacks about 3-4 months ago. At first she didn't know what they were, just like I didn't know when I had my initial episodes. She tried blaming it on birth control or hormones or anything else but drinking. I think she is finally starting to accept the fact that it IS drinking that is causing her pain, I'm just glad she is realizing it now, unlike my stubborn ***, who didn't want to admit it until a year had passed. So hopefully this thread can help her out a little too. Who knows, maybe she'll even write. :)
As far as my situation, I am doing MUCH better. Like I said earlier, I finally graduated college and moved out of the college town and am now living in Iowa's superb capital. Work is going awesome and I bought a Boston Terrier pup about 5 weeks ago. My binge-drinking has all but stopped. Since graduating about 3 months ago, I would say that I have gotten hammered maybe 4 or 5 times (which is incredible considering how long and how often I drank during my 7 years of college). But even though I have gotten hammered those few times, I really don't think I had an 'episode' at all. There were days after drinking where I would feel anxious and my head wouldn't be 100% right, but I never lost control or freaked out like I used to. I don't know if it's my subconscious recognizing anxiety better and therefore calming down a bit. I'm not sure how I have gotten better. I haven't started working out like I said I was going to O.o, but I have incorporated a healthy amount of water into my daily life. Dehydration can be a major cause of anxiety-related feelings, so by nipping that in the butt right away, I think it has helped a lot. If I do go out and get hammered, I make sure to pound some water before bed, and pound a lot more as soon as I wake up. That seems to keep the attacks at bay. I really don't take the B-complex or SJW anymore, as once my alcohol dependency started to fade out of my reality, my mental health started noticing those benefits without taking any pills and started doing better on its own.
I wish I had a sure-fire answer as to how I've gotten better. Maybe it's because I've gone from getting HAMMERED 2-4 nights a week for 7 years straight, to only getting hammered 1-2 times a month for the past 3 months. I'll even go through about a 6 pack every week or two by having a beer with dinner now and then. That has made me feel better about my situation too....that I can have just ONE beer with supper and not feel any need whatsoever to have another one. So I think I've convinced myself that I'm not an 'alcoholic' per se, I just have really ****** reactions to alcohol when I drink too much of it too often. I also think that un-training your mind is a successful step towards getting better. Like I mentioned previously, I am a believer that we can actually train our minds into having more panic attacks than we normally otherwise would. I used to be so scared of getting them, that any little change in my condition during the day would set off an attack. But by taking it slow, I think I've untrained my mind. When I started my job a few months ago, I would have a beer or 2 with supper a few times a week. And upon waking up and feeling fine, I would coach myself "see, you can have a drink or two with supper and wake up feeling great...". After enough of those nights and enough of those coaching sessions, I started to realize that I can drink and wake up feeling fine, AS LONG AS I drank with restraint. And as far as going out on the weekends and getting hammered, I no longer tip-toe around the fact that I am going to feel like **** the next day. I am not scared anymore. I say to myself "I've worked hard the past couple of weeks, and we are going to go out tonight for some drinks and have a good time. I am going to get drunk and have fun and I am probably going to have anxiety tomorrow, but it's ok because I deserve to go out and get hammered a couple times a month. And if my anxiety is going to try and tell me what I do and do not deserve, than to hell with it!!"
I have a lot more confidence with myself now than I had during that whole year of anxiety issues. I know that I'm not some invincible hero that can go out all the time and not pay the price, but confident enough to know that I should be able to go out twice a month and have fun without having to worry about anxiety ruining the rest of the weekend. I have stayed away from caffeine (morning coffee wreaked HAVOC with my morning commute and anxiety) and I've been drinking water like a fish.....and I've been great. Terrific. I feel that I have some purpose with my job and now that I've got a little puppy to look after, my lifestyle is definitely more calm than it used to be. Rather than sitting around thinking about anxiety, I can put my mind to him and watching him grow and have fun and chew on my girlfriend's underwear. :)
I hope all of you continue to use this website for seeking help or dishing out advice where needed. It takes a special kind of person to be able to live with this type of agony and lend a hand out to those in need that are going through the same thing. You are all special people in my book. I hope you all start gaining back some confidence in order that you can untrain your mind and take back the control that is rightfully yours.
Didn't really notice this was always after drinking, but now that I think about it, it is. I would try to sleep the day after drinkin with the guys and would have weird panic attacks. As I would fall asleep I would wake up with my heart beating out of my chest and the feeling I might pass out (Ironic I know, i was trying to sleep, but it was in a bad way).
Now that I know what it is, think its time to cut down on the drinking.
Thanks to the poster for the info. WOuld love to hear from a Doc on why and how this happens, but prolly wont on here just because of the lawsuits and what now (ugh).
This is a lot of good info. It makes me feel less alone to know there are others out there. I'm wondering if the anxiety is caused specifically by the alcohol, though. I think there are other factors out there as well. For myself, especially, a lot of my anxiety is based on what I did the night while I was hammered. I say and do things that are not me while hammered and then spend the next several days soaked in anxiety from what I know I did or the parts that I was totally blacked out. I do believe that it is all connected: Amy I a happy person? Why did I act that way? Why do I drink if I know that I will act that way? Why do I drink if I know I will feel this bad. If you ask me, it's not worth it, but easier to continue that type of behavior rather than exploring new healthier ways to have fun (physically and mentally). I think that we can all agree that we have to change our lifestyle in order to make any type of progress. It's not going to happen for us.
and btw-
i know for a fact, at least for myself, that changing the lifestyle helps. right now i'm having total anxiety attacks. it *****. i've been here before, and my only friend is time. i know in a few days i will feel better. i've gone several months without drinking and can really tell a difference: i sleep better, i eat better, i exercise more, i'm more alert, etc. I get to feeling SO good in fact, that I talk myself in to "downplaying" these anxiety attacks. I brush them off as if they are no big deal. In reality, I've just forgotten how big of deal they actually are. Besides the physical issues of being hungover, and the anxiety attacks that make me feel like I'm dying and afraid to leave my house, I also feel a general depression....a feeling that even after knowing better I once again made a decision to let myself down.
man u have helped calm me down. im having the worst attack ever right now. i just got home from a long day of alcohol drinking. i woke up with my heart pounding like crazy so i turned on my pc and searched for ways to calm myself down from anxiety (which i do every time im in an attack) and your message helped me the most... thanks brother u would be a very good friend :)
I find your post to be similar to mine.Just wanted to ask if any of these symptoms were there,excessive sweating day after,heart racing ,sense of inpending doom like your about to have a heart attack and should call 911 but fear you'll be scolded of the previous nights behaviour?I have always been the party girl mostly before I had kids,simmered way down until a year ago,had some MAJOR family stress and started to binge drink on weekends,with the anxiety attacks for a few days I would get pains where my liver is,have been going through to see dr. after dr. no one seems to think anything is wrong which then brings about more anxiety(feeling like your delusional or hypocondriac).Anyways just curious to know if any of the other symptoms sound familiar to you.Thanx.
Part of the reason that anxiety is worse following an evening drinking is because your body is still tired. when you drink the alcohol stimulates the brain and even when you go to sleep the alcohol is still going around and around your system. this means that you rarely switch off (anyone toss and turn more after drinking?) and this means that the next morning your body and brain are tired. your kidneys have to work harder, your brain doesn't work on full power and your heart rate increases because alcohol is a stimulant
When you are tired, as most of us permanetly are, the anxiety tends to increase. Having said that I think a nice hot whiskey with cloves, lemon and sugar relaxes me (i'm irish!). If you notice a pattern, cut back on the drink or drink more water between drinks or ultimately accept that you're going to have a really good night out, get full, forget your worries and know that the next day you're going to be anxious as hell but that you can come on here and vent or talk to a friend.
Great post,.. I Have recently noticed my anxiety issue related too drinking and smoking, as well as depression related too alcohol. Alot of the posts pretty much describe some of the same symptoms that I also experience. I have tried counciling and also medication in relation too drinking.depression/anxiety and the only thing that I can honestly say works for me is the GYM, and a healthier lifestyle. -thanks for the post :)
Alcohol causes GABA to be released in the brain. GABA is the chief inhibitory neurotransmitter in the mammalian central nervous system. It plays an important role in regulating neuronal excitability throughout the nervous system. Basically, it stops your nerves from shooting off too much.
It's just like how a cocaine addict sniffs coke and has tons of dopamine released only to later feel depressed as a result of low dopamine levels. While you're drunk the GABA levels are high then the next day you wake up and you're GABA is low and you're brains firing too much and you get these attacks. Essentially, you're going through GABA withdrawal.
Alcohol should not be used as an escape from problems by people who are susceptible to this. Exercise really is the best form of escape largely due in part to the endorphins it releases. I've done tons of god damn drugs and im still yet to find anything that is more rewarding then daily exercise. Imagine, you wake up the next day and not only do you feel better you actually look better.
I do believe the euphoria that you can achieve through drinking is a worth while experience every once in a while in a social setting surrounded by good people who's company you enjoy. I can't see myself going on a first date without a bit of the liquid courage in me. Everything in moderation i suppose.
It's good to read about other people's experiences and thoughts on this subject. It really helps out. I'm 32 yrs old and I also suffer from really bad anxiety and sometimes panic attacks the day after drinking alot. If I only have 1 or 2 drinks I'm fine. The problem is that I will often not stop at 2 drinks and have more like an 18 pack. This is also the only time I smoke, which I'll go through about 1 to 1 1/2 packs while binge drinking. The next day I wake up and feel very dizzy. I usually don't have the anxiety immediately. It's usually as the day goes on and the alcohol is clearing out of my system (which makes me think of the GABA information someone posted). Once I start feeling nervous I will start drinking beer again. I don't drink like the previous day. I'll sip on the beer and maybe have 6 through out the day. Every once in awhile I'll end up drunk the next day too from drinking to calm the anxiety near panic attack symptoms. They usually start up once I have some odd sensation or symptom in my body. It could be an arm pain, headache, face pain, muscle spasms, breathing issues (from probably smoking too much) or other. I start to think that I may be having a stroke, heart attack or anuerysm....so I drink to calm down. I use to go to the hospital when I was younger (in my 20's). I've been to hospitals for panic attacks the day after drinking more times than I can remember...probably around 25-30 times. Sometimes I wouldn't even go in the hospital. Just setting in the parking lot would make me feel better. I have drug my family and friends through these episodes with me. I feel bad after the attacks pass. I think that staying busy the day after drinking helps. However I can't leave the house the day after drinking. I'm extrememly nervous when out and about. I almost always go online and look for answers to the way I'm feeling. I will look up symptoms that I'm having and come up with some crazy medical diagnosis'. If I feel so bad that I can't even do stuff around the house then I will distract my thoughts by watching movies all day. Often if I have a couple beers while watching movies I may doze off for an hour or two nap which helps. It seems like I have face pain every time I'm hung over....always in my jaws. I usually don't want to talk to anyone on the phone either...even though the night before I've talked to everyone and said whatever. I'm giving all this detail because I know that I like detail others give and it helps me to know someone else goes through some of the same issues the day after drinking. I basically started drinking when I was 18 after going off to college. I didn't have panic attacks after drinking right away. When I was 19 is when I started having panic attacks the day after drinking alcohol or immediatel while drinking caffeine. I stopped drinking caffeine period. I haven't had it for almost 14 years. I believe the thing that helps me the most now when I have anxiety attacks after drinking is educating myself on the disorder and reading other peoples thoughts and experiences. I get drunk about 1-2 times a week. I say I'm not going to drink anymore after I feel horrible the next day. The crappy thing is....I usually drink again because I've had an anxiety attack. It's a horrible cycle. I'd get some medical help but I have no health insurance and haven't been able to find a job for some time now. That brings up another issue....has anyone ever wondered why the U.S. can't take care of their citizen's health but other countries that are supposively more poor and inadequate can? why do other countries have free health care and we don't. we are also dying at younger ages than other countries and are more stressed out.
anyway i'm getting off the subject....i feel for all of you out there that have anxiety and/or panic attacks whether it be the day after drinking or other times. they are horrible. i'm having anxiety right now. my face hurts and it's having spasms. does anyone know why this could happen the day after drinking?
My firs and foremost panic attack happened when I wasd hangover 10 years ago. Since then anxiety is part of my life. Sad but truth there has to be some connection. However when I drik now, I feel very good and next day I feel mentaly perfect.
Wow!!! and I mean wow I can't believe I found this wonderful fourm. I have been experiencing pa's for several years now and always felt like most of them were from after a night of drinking but thought it was just coincidence or that I was the only one. It makes me feel much more at ease knowing there are other people out there that experience the same thing. Not that I want anyone else to be going thru this if you know what I mean. Like today I have had a pa and anxiety all day long. Feeling dizzy, headache, on edge all of it and I did drink last night but I am also under alot of pressure. I am getting married this coming Saturday and have just had so much to do lately that I have been having a lot of attacks. For me the drinking helps when I am having an attack, like right now I am having wine, but then I worry what the next day will bring so in turn I think that triggers an attack on it's own. But between that and reading all your posts I am feeling so much better at this point except for the still slight headache. I had to go to the dr this morning, nothing major, so I wasnt concerned about it but my bp was way high because I was having anxiety problems. It is never high but part of that could have been from the drinking last night but I know it's also from the attacks. Then of corse that scares the **** out of me so for the remainder of the day I am worried I am going to have a stroke due to high bp and that makes the attack WORSE!!!!!!!! It totally *****. I do take meds for it but they are not working so I am going to switch back to Lexapro which was working better. I had to switch to citalopram for a while cuz I had no ins and you can get it for 7 bucks at walmart and you can't get Lex. But now I have ins so I am totally switching back. Anyway i just felt I needed to vent to try to get some reliefe which is working. I am going to try the scre* you panic attack way to see if that helps me. I doubt it will being that I still have a whole week to go b4 the wedding and more stress as it gets closer. I just hope I am ok on the day but see now that I am already worring about that I am worried that will be a direct cause of one. With these things I just can win for loosing. Welp will check back later and will put this site on favorites because I have decided that it has helped me feel better and maybe this is just what I need to help cope with these ******** attacks.
I dont know initially what caused mine but i do know they are really bad i do have thyroid problems too and if i skip a dose there is hell to pay but when i drink and i love my beer and lots of it lol WOW the panic and depression is on kinda nice to see so many others are in my shoes i thought i was a frea for having them and was highly embarressed of them it amazes me to know just how many people have them especiely at night that is the worst i hate it **** wish it was all over i hate them so ****** BAD!!!
Man today has been another crappy day. Woke up this morning still full of anxiety. I just don't get it. I am trying so hard to calm down but it is still there learking in the back of my mind. It is 2:15 pm and I just opened a beer to feel better. Not a good idea but if just a couple helps then to heck with it. My fiance just went to town and I could not even go with him for fear my panic would flare up. I have read so many places that people that have anxiety attacks unconsiously associate them with certin situations or places. Mine the last couple days have been worse when I have gotten in a car so I am going to make sure I am totally calmed down before going anywhere.
I am so glad I found this website and forum. I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety 5 years ago and given Lexapro for my symptoms. At the time I usually binged on alcohol on the weekends. I was on Lexapro for about 9 months when I moved and got a new job and stopped drinking and felt much better so I went off the Lexapro. About 2 years ago I started having anxiety/panic attacks that lasted for about a week. I wasn't drinking at the time so I don't believe it was triggered by alcohol, but I have a family history of depression and anxiety and just accepted it as part of my life. I found a great doctor who put me back on Lexapro as well as Alprazolam when needed. I didn't drink much for a couple of years and felt great. About 9 months ago my girl and I (dated for 3.5 years) split which made my depression worse. At that time I started going out with friends again on weekends and drinking way too much. Over the past couple of months I started going out more and more and recently my depression/anxiety became much worse even with the Lexapro and Alprazolam. After doing some research to find out how the alcohol is affecting my symptoms I was happy to come across these posts and find out I'm not alone. It gives me insight to what changes I need to make in my life to become better again. Thank you all for the wonderful posts!
Well i have experienced anxiety attacks a few months ago and wow i have never in my life experienced some weird things..I hate it i been to the ER twice i am suppose to take zoloft or klonopin which i dont.I keep telling myself i can fight it on my own but i am so glad i have found this forum it has helped me alot..I am kind of getting over them but not completely i still feel weird at times and dizzy and just strange but i keep telling myself i can fight it...And its sad because everytime you get used to one feeling then you will get something else to happen..Its always weird and anxiety does some crazy *** things to your body...
i cant believe so many people have this problem. allready i feel better just knowing im not alone. when i was about 14 i would hide in my room and cry for no reason. had pretty bad depression and anxiety. sometimes it seemed to last for weeks sometimes just a day. now days after a heavy drink night i feel this way. sometimes it takes a couple days sometimes its gone in one day. i hate it. i dont think a 29 year old should be crying for no reason. i know what i need to do is stop drinking or atleast cut back but its pretty hard. even without the alchohal i still feel this way sometimes. has anybody else delt with this? are there any meds that have been helpful? i hate these feeling. i havent felt normal in years. i know the alchohal is a great part of it but i still kinda have depression panic attacks and anxiety even when i havent been drinking. any help would be greatly appriciated. thanks ***@****
wow glad I found this....for as long as i've been old enough to drink/smoke I have dealt with anxiety issues...in college it was more like all of the time because I was drinking/smoking/eating fastfood all of the time. now i'm 27 and only party hard one night every once in a while but will have 5-8 beers a couple of times a week. After the 5-8 beers the next day i'm always fine, maybe a headache but nothing crazy. After a night of binging though, i'll wake up feeling hungover normal symptoms...then as the day progresses the anxiety/depression creeps in. This usually happens to be a sundya night btw which adds to it.
anyway fast forward to this past weekend (btw I NEVER drink more than one night in a row anymore...just so happened had company at the house so we did). Basically from Thursday-sunday was a bender in it's finest sense. I lost count friday and saturday how many beers I had. Felt ok actually sunday morning but about mid afternoon it hit me, like it normally does after one hard night but x 10000000. gripping in chest, general feeling of depression, body aches, shakes, dizzy, horrible, horrible mind-numbing anxiety and worst of all insomnia. Sunday and Monday nights I barely slept 4 hours combined. Monday night body was doing something strange---was so tired, but every time I started to drift into sleep I body would jerk awake. Not violently, but enough to notice. Was like a fight between body and mind or something, very strange. Monday it was about 1/4 better, tuesday I felt much better and actually slept well Tuesdya night. (btw I had a glass of wine and two beers Tuesday night--usually a 5-7 drink night). Last night (Wednesday) I just had one glass of wine right after work because again I was feeling great yesterday. stopped after that but about 3 hours later full blown anxiety attack came back. Last night couldn't sleep again felt like heart was going to explode and racing like crazy. Basically like a wave just came over me...it seems it always comes in surges or waves out of nowhere, and never triggered--random. Slept one hour on, one hour off pretty much all night. Today I feel ok, but still feel strange considering this is day 5 now. Perhaps the extra drinks set me back a bit but should've have. Just wondering can it really take this long to get out of my system. I also have a lot of stress as I am going to have my first child in <2 weeks but I usually deal with stress as it comes and am not used to feeling this vulnerable like I did back 5 years ago in college
Hi all
I came across this page whilst browsing the internet and am so happy that I did! I suffered my first panic attack the day after a particularly heavy drinking session and had pins and needles in my arms and legs felt like couldnt breathe and all sorts of things like this! I have had them on and off to a very slight degree since this point but I went out again last night, drank and then today I feel anxious again! Its not so much of an anxiety attack but rather that i feel anxious about my breathing and cant seem to relax properly! I never really thought that there was a big connection between the two things but the more I think about it the more I think its true! I will happily give up alcohol if I dont feel like this any more!
Im 19 and Irish just started suffering from panis attacks after spending a summer of drinking in Cyprus. I still suffer form very bad anxiety and panic attacks after a night of drinking.
2 things you can do to stop/help anxiety after a night of drinking are :
1) acupuncture. . . if you go to acupuncture and calm your nervous system down and stay off alchohol and other stimulants for a while then you will be able to go back to alchohol as your nervous system is better able to deal with it.
2) by taking vitamin B and a GABA supplement the days after drinking with help your anxiety enourmously.
Excersise will also help. I am 19 and enjoy drinking immensly and I am not going to let anxiety rule my life and make me quit one of my favourite past-times (drinking), there are always ways to get around anxiety.
Stop drinking for a while and calm your nervous system down by excersising and getting accupuncture, after a few weeks you will be able to enjoy drinking again without suffering the next day, and if you are take a GABA and vitamin B and thats it.
I was told by my dr that booze is high in sugar hense the people who have panic attacks that drink have them worse then when they don't because sugar makes us all hyper. I stopped eatting sugars and drinking to find that I stopped having my attacks..but I got big into drinking as a dancer and then quit when I left now I think the drop in sugar levels have me panicing ALL the time
Wow, this forum has really helped me not feel so alone. I'd like to share my story...I'm 24 and I had my first panic attack abour 1 1/2 monthes ago. It was after a long night of drinking, I have always been bad with hangovers and pretty much down for the day but recently after a long night of drinking that afternoon I ran up to the store to get some stuff for dinner and on my way home I started feeling strange which scared me because I was driving and had my first panic attack and honeslty I haven't felt the same since. But the worst one I had was the other morning, I'd been drinking for a couple of nights and had maybe 3 hours of sleep inbetween...well the next morning after I'd actually rested a little bit I woke up in the morning and my arms and legs were numb ( probably because of dehydration), couldn't breathe and as the numbness went away my whole body hurt which made things worse and there is a weird perception that goes along with it like if I touch my face, arms, hands anything I feel like I can't "feel" myself (if you can get what I mean) but thank god I was at my mom and not home alone when it happened because I can't drive when I feel like this out of fear of my first attack. I almost went to the hospital that day. Well it's been 2 days since and yesterday I felt fine until last night I felt one coming on again and I haven't drank or anything but I am still feel on the edge of another one. Since this is a really new thing for me, I'm really scared about it and on top of it I live alone most of the time because my husband travels for his job (no kids). It's really frustrating and scary and since then I feel like I can't drive very far when that used to be something that I loved and when I was a little upset would calm me. Also I can't find who said this one here but they were talking about waking up abruptly at night I have that except I wake up because I feel like I can't swallow or breathe. But it doesn't happen all the time, it really is usually only after I binge drink and someday's when it is bad I'll have a few beers throughout the day and I'll feel calmer but right now I am really trying not to do that because I really want to see if I cut alchohol out of my life completely if my panic attacks will go away. If anyone has any advice it would be really really appriciated.
I had my first panic attack after a night of heavy drinking yesterday and still feel weird and anxious. It was so strange, I was sitting in class, feeling like ****, and thinking how much I wished I hadn't come to class. Then all of a sudden my vision went out and I felt this surge throughout my body. It just kept getting stronger and more intense until I literally jumped out of my seat and left class to calm down. I kept touching my face and hands and it felt like my hands weren't attatched to my body. My heart was pounding and I was dizzy and couldn't breathe or see straight. My jaw kept clenching and it felt like my teeth were foreign metal objects in my mouth. I was convinced I was dying. I felt like this the whole day, but couldn't justify skipping my classes because of a hangover. I kept having these racing thoughts, like I'm so small and stupid for drinking so much, for needing this drug to have fun and not feel so bad about life (not that I hate my life, I love it). I don't know, it was the most terrible thing I've ever experienced. I can only liken it to being way way too stoned, but worse because you know you're not high. Ugh. Anyways, it's comforting to see that other people experience this. I talked to my friends about how I was feeling and no one had ever experienced anything like this. It's sadthat it's because of the drinking, but maybe a good thing too since I'm admittedly and alcoholic and haven't had any real intention in quitting, even though I've hurt so many people I love due to my drinking. I never ever want to experience this again but fear I will since I love drinking. If it happens again I'm giving it up. There's a line between self control and self abuse, and I don't want to be crippled by a drug. I'm stronger. Thank you all, this has really helped.
Hey everyone, just another person chiming in to say I also get this.
If I've had a particularly heavy night I'll wake up with normal hangover symptoms (which I can totally cope with BTW!), but as the day goes on I'll start to feel really anxious.
My symptoms include, having difficulty swallowing, insomnia, and racing heart. I also get what someone mentioned earlier - when you're just about to fall asleep you'll suddenly wake up with a jerk, it's really unpleasant! I can get twitches in my muscles, and just strange feelings and thoughts. Things like "I can't pick up that glass". Or I'll have a normal thought, but it will spark an irrational feeling and this will freak me out, and I get this feeling that I'm going insane.
My panic attacks will manifest themselves if I'm in public, I know it's really stupid but I start to worry that I'm talking out loud and that people are looking at me, this brings on the panic and anxiety even more.
The day after a heavy night I have to just stay in and either surf the internet or watch films or watch TV. I can't read as the anxiety ruins my ability to concentrate.
I get the same from ecstasy and cocaine, although when I'm on either of those I usually drink quite a lot too.
I really like going out with friends and getting wrecked but I guess it is time to let that part of my life go and move on to a new drug free and alcohol free beginning...If only it were that easy!
I forgot to add I also get this big feeling of impending doom, which is really weird!
It's so annoying and seems so unfair that I have to get anxiety from going and and doing the exact same things that my friends can do. I know that that's just life but it's still annoying!!
Thanks to the OP for posting this, I've been having this for around four years and haven't found anything as detailed as this when I've searched the internet in the past.
Its honorable that u wanna help someone but trying to help them drink with anxiety is about as helpful as pro anorexia sites. People who drink with anxiety have a HIGH risk of alcoholism. Which leads me to you. You continued to drink even after it started giving you anxiety. Just as there is no magic cure for anxiety there isn't one for drinking either. St johns wart vitamins and excersize can't keep you sober.even if u don't think u have a problem visit an open AA meeting you may learn about yourself. As an anxiety sufferer and an alcoholic in recovery all I can do is share from expirience. Best wishes.
All of you should really visit the alcoholism and addiction forums on this site.alcohol is a HUGE problem among anxiety sufferers. You can NOT stop drinking on your own. All of us drunks have tried to limit alcohol intake or stop cold turkey and all of us have failed.
alcohol @ anxiety both start with an A its a good place to start like the beginning of the alphebet stringing words together to form connections good luck everyone much love
There is no magic or mystery of why I feel like this and why lots of other people have anxiety issues after a night of less than healthy drinking. It is the plain and simple fact that my drinking habits are starting to take a toll on my physical and mental health. And that is something that I don't want to live with. I want to be healthy and happy. I want to know deep-down that I am going to have a fulfilling life and that nothing bad is going to happen to me that could have been prevented. I know that many of you out there want the same thing. If quitting heavy drinking seems too daunting right off the get-go, try to stop smoking at first. Take it one step at a time. I've read that smoking raises blood pressure and therefore exacerbates anxiety/stress, so it's a no-brainer that the social-smoking needs to stop. I also read that it's a good idea to cut out caffeine (no more Diet Mt. Dew *cry *throwfit *repeat).
So if you are reading this looking for how to stop anxiety and panic attacks after a night of drinking, the simple answer is to STOP drinking. If you want an alternative solution, one that doesn't involve alcohol abstinence or mind-enslaving medications, continue to read about how I am going to try combating this terrible, terrible condition.
1) Stop smoking cigarettes (they taste like **** and you wake up in the morning feeling like a bobcat pooped in your mouth)
2) Start taking daily supplements of B-complex and St. John's Wort. (A mutivitamin is probably a no-brainer)
3) Get into a more active routine like working out 3 times a week or going on jogs. Being physically active works wonders for the mind. I don't know what it is, but being active gives me this feeling that is just plain good. I imagine this feeling will help keep anxiety at bay.
4) Go to websites and forums such as this one and read about what other people are going through and inform yourself on what may or may not be causing your situation. Try different solutions until one works. I can't imagine that any of the proposed solutions will have any negative impacts on you. (Except maybe prescription medications)
5) Let yourself go and just accept the fact that you are having an anxiety issue. Don't sweat it. You have had them before, and you didn't die, so you aren't going to die now. Relax. Life is good. It may not seem like it's good now, but you know that deep-down, life is AWESOME and it makes you smile a little bit knowing that you will once again believe that. Little self-pep-talks like that should help a little. Like I said before, there is no magic phrase to alleviate this ****. But maybe this type of positive thinking will help some people. It is helping me a little bit by typing it, so maybe it can help you.
6) Cut caffeine out of your daily routine. I imagine this is going to be VERY difficult for a lot of people. People need their morning coffee, their afternoon soda, or evening "whatever people drink in the evening". But caffeine obviously is a stimulant, therefore it probably does nothing but enhance your feelings of anxiety and impending doom.
7) Be open and honest with those close to you about your problems. Don't be afraid of what you're going through and don't be afraid to tell a loved one what you're going through. Chances are, that anyone you tell with be sympathetic with you and maybe even try to help you themselves. Granted, you really have had to experience a panic attack before you can begin to help someone else through them. I truly had NO clue about anything related to anxiety until I had my first attack. All I can say is "wow, they really suck". Talking to people has helped me somewhat. If it's the day after a night on the town and I feel edgy and anxious and like there's a bomb ticking in my brain, it helps a little to actually tell people that you feel like ****. Something as simple as a "man, these anxiety attacks are so fun, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I didn't have them", will hopefully put your mind a little more at ease if you're around other people. There are certain people in your life who will just naturally calm you down by being around them, and there are others who will just annoy the **** out of you and make your panic attacks worse (find the latter group of people and stay away from them when you're having an episode). But I guess it just all depends on the day. Some days when I have them I want to be around my girlfriend and I feel a little safer. Other days I want to go buy a crowbar from the Ace Hardware down the street. haha totally kidding, but you know what I mean (yap yap yap yap). Don't be afraid to be honest with your condition, they are common. Hell, maybe even one of your closest friends has been going through the SAME thing without you knowing. Maybe you can both get on the same page and work with each other to fight this awful plague of mankind. :)
8) Drink lots of water. Drinking heavily dehydrates you to begin with, so if you can take dehydration out of the equation, that is one less thing you will have to go through and will take a load of stress off your body. (Wow, I'm trying to sound like a Doctor, even though I'm NOT. 100% Network Technician here :) ) So yeah, drink water like you drank beer the night before and you should be able to stay pretty hydrated.
9) Don't use any type of illicit drugs. I have not had any experiences with cocaine or marijuana in like a year and a half, but I can't imagine that using that stuff while going through anxiety issues is even close to what you're gonna want to be doing. No brainer.
10) Stop drinking strong spirits. I read this on a different site and must be honest when I say I have no idea what a strong spirit is. I'm guessing it's like 80-proof booze that tastes so delicious with Coke. So cut out the Whiskey/Diets or Appletinis. Stick with light beer (if you must drink.)
11) Reply to this post with your own story or questions.
Well, I am going to stop rambling now. I really hope this has helped some of you. If there is anything more that anyone wants to know, don't hesitate to ask. I'm pretty open with my experiences and I will be even more so if it can help others. If you take nothing away from this post or if none of those 11 things have helped you, then I guess all I can say is that everything is fine and life is great. Yeah, it sucks now, but it will pass. And you know it will. You have just trained yourself to think like this. You have trained yourself to have anxiety attacks the day after drinking. You were so scared for your life of getting them when you started, that you slowly developed a compulsion to think like that, to let your heart race and your mind go out of control. But you are in control, and you always were. Give it time. Get some professional help if nothing else.
Later all.
:)
C
Close your eyes, listen to it, and let me know what you think.
C
So, to put another arrow in your quivver, consider going to some AA meetings and getting on a program.
I appreciate all the work you have put into your messages and wish you the very best.
- lindsay
"Anxiety is such an awful feeling that it's difficult for me to understand how anyone can deliberately go BACK to a trigger that would cause a full week of it. I noticed the exact same thing early on when my anxiety phases began and today I have a 1 glass of wine or 2 beer limit. On most days it's zero. Anxiety *****. I do what you can to avoid it. If you're not sure if you're addicted to alcohol, there's a good forum for it right here on medhelp. Go talk to people. Get educated.
Good Luck "
I have drank heavily daily for a year or so, but due to some stressful situations, I began drinking a lot more in the last few months. One of my roommates was no longer going to be able to live with us, and I was really upset about it. Long story short, the increased drinking led to increased anxiety, increased anxiety made me drink even more to calm down. You know the rest. After a few terrible panic attacks I joined this site and looked for help.
I tried taking Zoloft but found I reacted terribly to it, and then when a different doctor wanted me to try Paxil I realized I probably didn't even need medication at all. Drinking was the only real problem. I've been going through ups and downs as I've tried to cut back and limit my drinking. And I have hit a wall a couple times. However, I have made improvements. I only drank 4 days in the last week instead of all 7. One of those nights was particularly terrible, and I woke up puking. After that I decided that even cutting down the nights I drank wasn't enough, I probably needed to straight up quit.
I came home from college to spend this difficult time with my family. Right now, It's been about 36 hours since my last drink. I'm feeling okay, tonight will probably suck worse than last night due to trouble sleeping sober, but I imagine I'll feel even better tomorrow morning if I keep staying sober. One thing about alcohol is, it seems like an impossible cycle to break. You drink due to anxiety. The next day anxiety is worse because of the hangover, so you drink to get over that. But then if you want to quit, you also have terrible anxiety. After a few days sober, you are so anxious that drinking seems like the only solution, and so on. I think that making it past those first few vital days is really important. And I really think that guys like us will be able to do it, because we want to change so badly. St. Johns Wort is a great idea, I took it for a year or so and it helped me a ton (the only reason I stopped is because of the doctor wanting me to try zoloft instead.) In fact, I'll probably start taking it again.
Sorry if I hijacked your thread, I just wanted to relate how much I know how you feel. I have only a very slight history of anxiety in my life, and it was only after drinking uncontrollably that it became a problem. You seem to be in the same boat. I see you haven't made a post since May 10th, 2 months ago, so I really would like to hear how you are doing.
I only drink one to three times a month as I have done for the past 3 years since quitting some harder drugs. Anyways I still get these "anxiety overs" and yes a few days later I feel fine. I don't even get headaches or nausea just ludicrous thoughts and feelings of panic. HORRIBLE. You wonder why you do this to yourself but do it again.
I've tried going for walks, vitamins, water, relaxation techniques, quit smoking and caffeine for the last 8 months you name it, nothings worked. I choose not to take medication as a fear of becoming dependant. I do not want to give up social drinking on special occasions. I do not feel I have a drinking problem as I have been addicted to other substances in the past. I drink when I want to, sometiomes I go out and not drink at all.
The one thing that takes the edge off is a hard work out. Although it is very difficult to motivate yourself to go to the gym on a hangover. I guess I was on here lookibng for an all natural cure. I'm going to get tested for hypoglycemia and then go from there. I know that it is the alcohol causing the anxiety but I'm clinging to the hope that there is a medical explanation. I'm sure some of you casual drinkers out there are clinging to that hope as well. I guess I should've quit the booze with the drugs. If I have to I will.
As for those trying to quit alcohol. All the power to you. I detoxed and went to drug treatment with several alcoholics. I've seen their pain and their success. Hang in there.
In an answer to your question alcohol is a deppressant and over indulging results in a hang over. Your body is trying to break down toxins while being dehydrated, your blood sugar plummets and your body starts releasing adrenaline giving you that fight or flight sensation. Some of us get it so bad that we have panic attacks and begin to tell ourselves we are going crazy.
I hope this helps a little.
also too jess i think you could be allergic to, 3 drinks aint a lot on a night out, my friend reacts badly to alcohol especially spirits or alco pops she has hangovers from hell but not as bad as yours!!!!!
Bottom line, if it wasn't for the liquor i'd be in prison for assult and possibly murder. I'm like a time bomb; i don't take sht. I had to scare on guy into dropping the charges, and then they look at me crazy cuz I still come around, even with a restraining order..pshh..what the hell is goin on, I cant stop it...somebody is gonna have to kill me.
So Liquor is my peace maker, untill I find the way out of this maze.
then i made the association that the alcohol is causing this, and now it's hard to even go out and have a couple beers.
so i stopped drinking entirely ( has been for a month and a half now)... but the anxiety keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Almost entirely debilitating now, and i've cutout all drugs and what not too.
it truley is horrible, i'm thinking about maybe trying out an anti depressant as i've been dealing with this hell for like a year and used to be the most normal chilled person ever.
good luck, i wish i knew what to do for mine :( it has changed me terribly
I guess the reason I hopped on here tonight was because I sent this link to my sister. She's 23 and just got engaged a couple months ago, but she also started getting anxiety attacks about 3-4 months ago. At first she didn't know what they were, just like I didn't know when I had my initial episodes. She tried blaming it on birth control or hormones or anything else but drinking. I think she is finally starting to accept the fact that it IS drinking that is causing her pain, I'm just glad she is realizing it now, unlike my stubborn ***, who didn't want to admit it until a year had passed. So hopefully this thread can help her out a little too. Who knows, maybe she'll even write. :)
As far as my situation, I am doing MUCH better. Like I said earlier, I finally graduated college and moved out of the college town and am now living in Iowa's superb capital. Work is going awesome and I bought a Boston Terrier pup about 5 weeks ago. My binge-drinking has all but stopped. Since graduating about 3 months ago, I would say that I have gotten hammered maybe 4 or 5 times (which is incredible considering how long and how often I drank during my 7 years of college). But even though I have gotten hammered those few times, I really don't think I had an 'episode' at all. There were days after drinking where I would feel anxious and my head wouldn't be 100% right, but I never lost control or freaked out like I used to. I don't know if it's my subconscious recognizing anxiety better and therefore calming down a bit. I'm not sure how I have gotten better. I haven't started working out like I said I was going to O.o, but I have incorporated a healthy amount of water into my daily life. Dehydration can be a major cause of anxiety-related feelings, so by nipping that in the butt right away, I think it has helped a lot. If I do go out and get hammered, I make sure to pound some water before bed, and pound a lot more as soon as I wake up. That seems to keep the attacks at bay. I really don't take the B-complex or SJW anymore, as once my alcohol dependency started to fade out of my reality, my mental health started noticing those benefits without taking any pills and started doing better on its own.
I wish I had a sure-fire answer as to how I've gotten better. Maybe it's because I've gone from getting HAMMERED 2-4 nights a week for 7 years straight, to only getting hammered 1-2 times a month for the past 3 months. I'll even go through about a 6 pack every week or two by having a beer with dinner now and then. That has made me feel better about my situation too....that I can have just ONE beer with supper and not feel any need whatsoever to have another one. So I think I've convinced myself that I'm not an 'alcoholic' per se, I just have really ****** reactions to alcohol when I drink too much of it too often. I also think that un-training your mind is a successful step towards getting better. Like I mentioned previously, I am a believer that we can actually train our minds into having more panic attacks than we normally otherwise would. I used to be so scared of getting them, that any little change in my condition during the day would set off an attack. But by taking it slow, I think I've untrained my mind. When I started my job a few months ago, I would have a beer or 2 with supper a few times a week. And upon waking up and feeling fine, I would coach myself "see, you can have a drink or two with supper and wake up feeling great...". After enough of those nights and enough of those coaching sessions, I started to realize that I can drink and wake up feeling fine, AS LONG AS I drank with restraint. And as far as going out on the weekends and getting hammered, I no longer tip-toe around the fact that I am going to feel like **** the next day. I am not scared anymore. I say to myself "I've worked hard the past couple of weeks, and we are going to go out tonight for some drinks and have a good time. I am going to get drunk and have fun and I am probably going to have anxiety tomorrow, but it's ok because I deserve to go out and get hammered a couple times a month. And if my anxiety is going to try and tell me what I do and do not deserve, than to hell with it!!"
I have a lot more confidence with myself now than I had during that whole year of anxiety issues. I know that I'm not some invincible hero that can go out all the time and not pay the price, but confident enough to know that I should be able to go out twice a month and have fun without having to worry about anxiety ruining the rest of the weekend. I have stayed away from caffeine (morning coffee wreaked HAVOC with my morning commute and anxiety) and I've been drinking water like a fish.....and I've been great. Terrific. I feel that I have some purpose with my job and now that I've got a little puppy to look after, my lifestyle is definitely more calm than it used to be. Rather than sitting around thinking about anxiety, I can put my mind to him and watching him grow and have fun and chew on my girlfriend's underwear. :)
I hope all of you continue to use this website for seeking help or dishing out advice where needed. It takes a special kind of person to be able to live with this type of agony and lend a hand out to those in need that are going through the same thing. You are all special people in my book. I hope you all start gaining back some confidence in order that you can untrain your mind and take back the control that is rightfully yours.
Peace and love.
C
Didn't really notice this was always after drinking, but now that I think about it, it is. I would try to sleep the day after drinkin with the guys and would have weird panic attacks. As I would fall asleep I would wake up with my heart beating out of my chest and the feeling I might pass out (Ironic I know, i was trying to sleep, but it was in a bad way).
Now that I know what it is, think its time to cut down on the drinking.
Thanks to the poster for the info. WOuld love to hear from a Doc on why and how this happens, but prolly wont on here just because of the lawsuits and what now (ugh).
Anyway, thanks again
i know for a fact, at least for myself, that changing the lifestyle helps. right now i'm having total anxiety attacks. it *****. i've been here before, and my only friend is time. i know in a few days i will feel better. i've gone several months without drinking and can really tell a difference: i sleep better, i eat better, i exercise more, i'm more alert, etc. I get to feeling SO good in fact, that I talk myself in to "downplaying" these anxiety attacks. I brush them off as if they are no big deal. In reality, I've just forgotten how big of deal they actually are. Besides the physical issues of being hungover, and the anxiety attacks that make me feel like I'm dying and afraid to leave my house, I also feel a general depression....a feeling that even after knowing better I once again made a decision to let myself down.
Part of the reason that anxiety is worse following an evening drinking is because your body is still tired. when you drink the alcohol stimulates the brain and even when you go to sleep the alcohol is still going around and around your system. this means that you rarely switch off (anyone toss and turn more after drinking?) and this means that the next morning your body and brain are tired. your kidneys have to work harder, your brain doesn't work on full power and your heart rate increases because alcohol is a stimulant
When you are tired, as most of us permanetly are, the anxiety tends to increase. Having said that I think a nice hot whiskey with cloves, lemon and sugar relaxes me (i'm irish!). If you notice a pattern, cut back on the drink or drink more water between drinks or ultimately accept that you're going to have a really good night out, get full, forget your worries and know that the next day you're going to be anxious as hell but that you can come on here and vent or talk to a friend.
It's just like how a cocaine addict sniffs coke and has tons of dopamine released only to later feel depressed as a result of low dopamine levels. While you're drunk the GABA levels are high then the next day you wake up and you're GABA is low and you're brains firing too much and you get these attacks. Essentially, you're going through GABA withdrawal.
Alcohol should not be used as an escape from problems by people who are susceptible to this. Exercise really is the best form of escape largely due in part to the endorphins it releases. I've done tons of god damn drugs and im still yet to find anything that is more rewarding then daily exercise. Imagine, you wake up the next day and not only do you feel better you actually look better.
I do believe the euphoria that you can achieve through drinking is a worth while experience every once in a while in a social setting surrounded by good people who's company you enjoy. I can't see myself going on a first date without a bit of the liquid courage in me. Everything in moderation i suppose.
anyway i'm getting off the subject....i feel for all of you out there that have anxiety and/or panic attacks whether it be the day after drinking or other times. they are horrible. i'm having anxiety right now. my face hurts and it's having spasms. does anyone know why this could happen the day after drinking?
THANX.
Take care
M
anyway fast forward to this past weekend (btw I NEVER drink more than one night in a row anymore...just so happened had company at the house so we did). Basically from Thursday-sunday was a bender in it's finest sense. I lost count friday and saturday how many beers I had. Felt ok actually sunday morning but about mid afternoon it hit me, like it normally does after one hard night but x 10000000. gripping in chest, general feeling of depression, body aches, shakes, dizzy, horrible, horrible mind-numbing anxiety and worst of all insomnia. Sunday and Monday nights I barely slept 4 hours combined. Monday night body was doing something strange---was so tired, but every time I started to drift into sleep I body would jerk awake. Not violently, but enough to notice. Was like a fight between body and mind or something, very strange. Monday it was about 1/4 better, tuesday I felt much better and actually slept well Tuesdya night. (btw I had a glass of wine and two beers Tuesday night--usually a 5-7 drink night). Last night (Wednesday) I just had one glass of wine right after work because again I was feeling great yesterday. stopped after that but about 3 hours later full blown anxiety attack came back. Last night couldn't sleep again felt like heart was going to explode and racing like crazy. Basically like a wave just came over me...it seems it always comes in surges or waves out of nowhere, and never triggered--random. Slept one hour on, one hour off pretty much all night. Today I feel ok, but still feel strange considering this is day 5 now. Perhaps the extra drinks set me back a bit but should've have. Just wondering can it really take this long to get out of my system. I also have a lot of stress as I am going to have my first child in <2 weeks but I usually deal with stress as it comes and am not used to feeling this vulnerable like I did back 5 years ago in college
I came across this page whilst browsing the internet and am so happy that I did! I suffered my first panic attack the day after a particularly heavy drinking session and had pins and needles in my arms and legs felt like couldnt breathe and all sorts of things like this! I have had them on and off to a very slight degree since this point but I went out again last night, drank and then today I feel anxious again! Its not so much of an anxiety attack but rather that i feel anxious about my breathing and cant seem to relax properly! I never really thought that there was a big connection between the two things but the more I think about it the more I think its true! I will happily give up alcohol if I dont feel like this any more!
2 things you can do to stop/help anxiety after a night of drinking are :
1) acupuncture. . . if you go to acupuncture and calm your nervous system down and stay off alchohol and other stimulants for a while then you will be able to go back to alchohol as your nervous system is better able to deal with it.
2) by taking vitamin B and a GABA supplement the days after drinking with help your anxiety enourmously.
Excersise will also help. I am 19 and enjoy drinking immensly and I am not going to let anxiety rule my life and make me quit one of my favourite past-times (drinking), there are always ways to get around anxiety.
Stop drinking for a while and calm your nervous system down by excersising and getting accupuncture, after a few weeks you will be able to enjoy drinking again without suffering the next day, and if you are take a GABA and vitamin B and thats it.
Hop this helps !
If I've had a particularly heavy night I'll wake up with normal hangover symptoms (which I can totally cope with BTW!), but as the day goes on I'll start to feel really anxious.
My symptoms include, having difficulty swallowing, insomnia, and racing heart. I also get what someone mentioned earlier - when you're just about to fall asleep you'll suddenly wake up with a jerk, it's really unpleasant! I can get twitches in my muscles, and just strange feelings and thoughts. Things like "I can't pick up that glass". Or I'll have a normal thought, but it will spark an irrational feeling and this will freak me out, and I get this feeling that I'm going insane.
My panic attacks will manifest themselves if I'm in public, I know it's really stupid but I start to worry that I'm talking out loud and that people are looking at me, this brings on the panic and anxiety even more.
The day after a heavy night I have to just stay in and either surf the internet or watch films or watch TV. I can't read as the anxiety ruins my ability to concentrate.
I get the same from ecstasy and cocaine, although when I'm on either of those I usually drink quite a lot too.
I really like going out with friends and getting wrecked but I guess it is time to let that part of my life go and move on to a new drug free and alcohol free beginning...If only it were that easy!
It's so annoying and seems so unfair that I have to get anxiety from going and and doing the exact same things that my friends can do. I know that that's just life but it's still annoying!!
Thanks to the OP for posting this, I've been having this for around four years and haven't found anything as detailed as this when I've searched the internet in the past.