RYAN

[fd11]

YOU GUYS ARE STILL LISTENING TO HIM.  WATER TITRATION IS THE WAY GO...........

[OneScaredBuckeye]

I mean to only took two Ambien.  They didn't work.

[OneScaredBuckeye]

To answer your question, no nothing else at the time, just the Paxil, 40 mg. at bedtime.  I did take Ambien after I stopped the Paxil because I had a hard time sleeping for more than three hours at a time, but I think I only took took pills because they didn't help much.  After two weeks, I was fine.  I think this is the exception rather than the rule, though.  I think most people have a harder time and I'm lucky where drugs are concerned.  

And I wasn't judging you by any means.  I don't judge anyone unless they really do something terrible, like deliberately hurt another person or something similar.  I understand that you were only trying to help a very terrible problem.  I'm glad to hear you managed to stop smoking and drinking and taking diet pills.  To me, that shows you're very strong and can overcome this latest problem, too.  It might be hard, but I have no doubt stopping smoking and drinking is very, very hard.  If you can do that, you can do just about anything.  I wish you the best.

[Mark TX]

It is nice to see everyone getting along.  I think what we all need to remember is that we all share a common problem.  We might disagree on the exact nature and causes... and very likely that's because it's a little different for each of us.  No doubt my anxiety was triggered by some factor different than what triggered other's.  And perhaps treatment that works well for me might not work well for others, and vice versa.  And I've had my own share of misinformation coming to this site.  I'm grateful for those who've helped me clarify my misunderstandings.  But I'm still skeptical of every post I read, no matter how qualified any of you seem.  I visited my GP today and it was pretty apparent that she has no idea how to wean someone off klonopin, but she has little problem advising me to take it, or refilling the script.   So I think it's wise to ask questions... and keep asking if you don't understand or don't agree.  Because very often disagreements are based on lack of information, or incomplete or erroneous information... and the best way to sort it out is to keep talking like adults.

mark

[Raine9]

You have 14 years of experience?  You're 32 right?  How old were you, when you earn your PhD?  Goodness...

[spade22]

I don't know what some of those abbreviations mean, but from the list you provided it looks like Klonopin is available in 1/8 and 1/4 mg doses.

Another point to discuss w/ your doctor is the "accuracy" of the method.  Simple ask how you are supposed to obtain the required precision of measurement when the instruments (measuring cylinder or syringe) have a high error associated w/ them; take it from someone with a PhD in chemistry, 14 years experience, and over 5 years teaching gen chem and organic chemistry.  Then of course bring up the fact klonopin (and the inactive ingredients) is insoluble in water - this makes it impossible to obtain a uniform suspension which makes the method even more inaccurate.

Finally, Ryan wrote:
"He likely knows that titrating Klonopin via water doesn't actually work, although I doubt that he'd admit it. I think his main goal is to take your money, and get you out of his office ASAP"

I agree with part of this statement - the psychiatrist  is probably just out to get your money.  In terms of him "knowing" the water titration method doesn't work?  This is debatable.... he didn't know what dosings of klonopin were available which leads me to believe he isnt as intelligent/book smart as one might assume.

[Raine9]

He likes vintage muscle cars.